Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[Korpon]

Controversial:
IV had a better story than V.

I feel like the only people who would disagree is 11-15 year old ADHD zoomers.

 

[Jack Awful]

I feel like the only people who would disagree is 11-15 year old ADHD zoomers.

People complained that GTA IV's story was too dark, but at least it had a satisfying ending and story threads that went places.

 

[The Last Stand]

My best friend brought over Grand Theft Auto V when it first came out, and I said I probably wouldn't like it because it's not my kind of game. Two hours in, and I'm like, "Holy fuck, I want to adopt Michael!" It's now my favorite game. Haven't played any others in the series, though.

Are you into open world games?

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

People complained that GTA IV's story was too dark, but at least it had a satisfying ending and story threads that went places.

I remember the complaints with GTA IV being mission design moreso than the story itself.

That and, you know, it took itself too seriously outside of the story as well.

 

[The Cunting Death]

controversial opinion

I liked GTA V

I didn't like GTA IV until TBOGT came out. TBOGT imo completely redeemed GTA IV and is actually better than GTA V itself.

 

[The Last Stand]

controversial opinion

I do not like San Andreas as much as the GTA community does. The world has too much dead space. The only refinement it brought to the table was with combat.

That's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I loved the side characters. I loved Los Santos and the 90s vibe, especially on the PS2. Customization is good for GTA.

I think the first Saints Row improved on GTA: San Andreas by a mile.

 

[I am Jack's dead arm]

I like SA, but it is bloated. By the time I complete the game, I don't really give a fuck about CJ. Especially since the story makes no sense to me. At the end, even without cheesing the game, you have millions of dollars and own lots of houses and businesses, including a fucking casino. You've successfully stopped the mob and made a name for yourself, but you have to back to Grove Street (during a riot, no less) to help your brother who's been an asshole to you your whole life. Um, ok, I guess?

And I like Mike Toreno as a character, but his missions are some of the worst in the series.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

The ragdolls and car damage models are also way better.
Controversial:
IV had a better story than V.

Absolutely, V's story just didn't really do it for me. The having 3 main characters really seemed to overshadow having good supporting characters. Plus so many of the villains were just meh tier.

 

[SiccDicc]

Absolutely, V's story just didn't really do it for me. The having 3 main characters really seemed to overshadow having good supporting characters. Plus so many of the villains were just meh tier.

You actually forget why the "villains" hate the main cast by the end of the game. At least I did, there were a few that I was like, "Wait, who was that?"

 

[Vault Boy]

Absolutely, V's story just didn't really do it for me. The having 3 main characters really seemed to overshadow having good supporting characters. Plus so many of the villains were just meh tier.

I think that can be chalked up more to Rockstar deliberately creating fewer missions, thus leaving less time for the characters to shine.

Supposedly done to "reduce padding", but when buying masks and boiler suits count as their own missions...

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

You actually forget why the "villains" hate the main cast by the end of the game. At least I did, there were a few that I was like, "Wait, who was that?"

Yeah, like how they built stretch or whatever his name was to be some big villain for the final mission. The dude shows up like twice early game, then nothing til the end. Somehow he's one of your number one threats at that point. At least Steve Haines made sense, but it was just hit and miss overall.

 

[The Last Stand]

Supposedly done to "reduce padding", but when buying masks and boiler suits count as their own missions...

And being a crane driver. And mopping. And yoga.

You actually forget why the "villains" hate the main cast by the end of the game. At least I did, there were a few that I was like, "Wait, who was that?"

I forgot about Stretch and Wei Chang even during the end. They're mentioned in passing, but just disappear.

Dimitri in IV would periodically contact you as you progress through the story. He's still around, just not present.

I felt the real villains in V were Steve Haines and Devin Weston. There was some motivation established as opposed to Wei or Stretch just being in the background.

 

[Frail Snail]

And I like Mike Toreno as a character, but his missions are some of the worst in the series.

They're enjoyable if you like flying in San Andreas. I do, plus it's fun fed shit. He also has the best (somewhat) hidden phonecalls in the game:

 

[The Last Stand]

Quick quirk I noticed about V's cutscenes, the characters don't react to weather. It's quite funny seeing the characters just talking outside in the rain.

 

[Vault Boy]

And being a crane driver. And mopping. And yoga.

I didn't like those missions either, but at least they lasted longer than 30 seconds and had the characters interacting with each other.

Plus the mopping led to that sequence where you navigate the bombed FIB building, which I thought was better than the other version.

 

[The Last Stand]

They're enjoyable if you like flying in San Andreas. I do, plus it's fun fed shit. He also has the best (somewhat) hidden phonecalls in the game:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SKZGX8t9T8w

James Woods' best work yet. Next to Family Guy.

 

[Auntie Fester]

I like SA, but it is bloated. By the time I complete the game, I don't really give a fuck about CJ. Especially since the story makes no sense to me. At the end, even without cheesing the game, you have millions of dollars and own lots of houses and businesses, including a fucking casino. You've successfully stopped the mob and made a name for yourself, but you have to back to Grove Street (during a riot, no less) to help your brother who's been an asshole to you your whole life. Um, ok, I guess?

I always got the sense the moral of San Andreas was to both open up to new experiences and make new friends and connections, whilst still remembering your roots and family. CJ establishes bonds with people like Cesar and Woozie that he never would have stuck in the hood, whilst Sweet, who can be a massive asshole at times, represents that CJ should care about the family he has and their origins from Grove Street. Ultimately, CJ reaches a compromise between progressing his own life and sticking by the family he has left (especially after Brian died on his watch, and with the loss of his mother).

CJ agrees more with Kendl than Sweet in that there is a life outside the hood, but he's not prepared to fully abandon his brother either and be a buster. And I don't think Kendl is either.

 

[I am Jack's dead arm]

I always got the sense the moral of San Andreas was to both open up to new experiences and make new friends and connections, whilst still remembering your roots and family. CJ establishes bonds with people like Cesar and Woozie that he never would have stuck in the hood, whilst Sweet, who can be a massive asshole at times, represents that CJ should care about the family he has and their origins from Grove Street. Ultimately, CJ reaches a compromise between progressing his own life and sticking by the family he has left (especially after Brian died on his watch, and with the loss of his mother).

CJ agrees more with Kendl than Sweet in that there is a life outside the hood, but he's not prepared to fully abandon his brother either and be a buster. And I don't think Kendl is either.

I would have liked to have more Kendl/Cesar missions. I really like them in the series. And Woozie is the shit.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Quick quirk I noticed about V's cutscenes, the characters don't react to weather. It's quite funny seeing the characters just talking outside in the rain.

Which is fucking weird for how heavily scripted all the missions are. You think if they are willing to speed time forward so that they take place at a specific hour they'd account more for weather conditions.

 

[The Last Stand]

And Woozie is the shit.

YOUR MOTHER SUCKS DEMON SLUTS!