Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[I.B. Niggin]

How many people in this thread have been in a metropolitan area within the last 10 years? Unless you're in a flyover state, your biggest city will most likely be 80 percent black.

My biggest issue with this game is are they just going to give us a 30 hour single player experience to rush through while most of their resources are being put into the next decade of GTA Online?

 

[Seventh Star]

But you're forgetting something: podcasts. Podcasts are exactly what radio shows used to be and maybe more. I don't know if they'll get Joe Rogan or anything but you can very easily substitute that into the game since it's a similar enough format within the very same niche.

They need to make some Joe Rogan parody and its all set.

 

[William Murderface]

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They need to make some Joe Rogan parody and its all set.

And I'd be fine if they did that AND a super-lefty parody and all of that, but given the current crop of writers I just don't see them hitting both sides as hard.

It's funny because in VC on one of the parts of Pressing Issues they have the ultra-right Congressman Alex Shrub and the ultra-left Colim Grayshaw on the same segment and they both come off as equally vapid and useless. Lazlo wrote those bits and he didn't favor one side or the other. In GTAV you have Sue Murray running for office and she's your typical big city liberal who knows best for everyone and talks down to everyone. Meanwhile you have Jock Cranley, a stuntman and actor and idiot conservative, running for office too and it's clear neither of them know anything about anything but they're both pandering to their bases. She's on the city talk radio station and he's on the country talk radio station. Again, Lazlo.

I wouldn't mind radio stations and podcasts provided they hit each side equally hard. I just don't have faith that the dangerhair recent writing grads they're hiring can pull it off without their personal politics getting in the way.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Doesn't the tribe literally factor into Dutchs final heist by setting up the distraction and getting slaughtered?

Pretty much. Dutch spends most of the final chapter using the resentment some of them have against the white man to turn them into his own pawns, and getting them killed. Just like he did in RDR1.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

How many people in this thread have been in a metropolitan area within the last 10 years? Unless you're in a flyover state, your biggest city will most likely be 80 percent black.

My biggest issue with this game is are they just going to give us a 30 hour single player experience to rush through while most of their resources are being put into the next decade of GTA Online?

Miami, where Vice City is based, is about 70.4% Hispanic (all varieties), 13.6% Black, 11.4% White and 4.6% Other according to the 2021 Census.

 

[William Murderface]

Keep in mind though that a lot of Hispanics have black in them so the lines aren't always clear. Cubans, Dominicans, Brazilians, all of them can go from pure European to pure African and still be counted as Hispanic. I think black in this case means African-Americans and Haitians with a handful from Africa.

Then again, it isn't like Rockstar has ever gone strictly by demographics. You can easily find whites in Little Haiti or blacks in the most redneck of redneck-towns in their games and no one cares.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

But you're forgetting something: podcasts. Podcasts are exactly what radio shows used to be and maybe more. I don't know if they'll get Joe Rogan or anything but you can very easily substitute that into the game since it's a similar enough format within the very same niche.

Podcasts are almost exclusively talk, can't have the feeling of cutting into a bit, and don't intersplice songs, it's not the same thing.

And you're out of your mind if you think they'll license any of Joe Rogan Experience.

 

[Cowboy Christ]

For anybody throwing fits and frothing from the mouth over seeing one too many maltesers Rockshite might adjust the populous drastically 2024.

Of course this is Rockfart, this is the HD universe, and this is 2023, they don't have to do shit. They don't even have to claim they're human - most people in the real world already don't.

 

[William Murderface]

Podcasts are almost exclusively talk, can't have the feeling of cutting into a bit, and don't intersplice songs, it's not the same thing.

And you're out of your mind if you think they'll license any of Joe Rogan Experience.

But they done public radio stations in the past with a host and some interviewees without songs or commercials (other than the NPR begging for money bits) so it isn't entirely impossible to do. I could see a podcast with a few guests where they discuss unsolved disappearances (like whatever happened to Devin Weston???) and conspiracy theories about that Steve Haines was murdered on orders from Merriweather Security or something. Sure, we know the answers because we played the missions, but it would be cool to hear how those events were perceived in-universe by normal people playing online detectives.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Miami, where Vice City is based, is about 70.4% Hispanic (all varieties), 13.6% Black, 11.4% White and 4.6% Other according to the 2021 Census.

Once again, as others have pointed out time and again in this thread, that's only the (relatively small) City of Miami itself. The black population outside of Miami, in the rest of the Metro Area, and even in Florida in general, is far larger. And lots of Black people visit Miami and Miami Beach for Spring Break and such.

 

[Open-Source Dodonpachi]

Beware the groidlflation

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Once again, as others have pointed out time and again in this thread, that's only the (relatively small) City of Miami itself. The black population outside of Miami, in the rest of the Metro Area, and even in Florida in general, is far larger. And lots of Black people visit Miami and Miami Beach for Spring Break and such.

I am intimately acquainted with Florida and the total state Black population is only 14.5% Black and besides that it is 51.5% White, 26.6% Hispanic, 2.3% Asian and 5.1% Other. Regardless, besides the fact that you're just wrong, whatever other point you are trying to make is entirely moot because in the trailer the only place shown which is overwhelmingly Black is in the context of Vice City itself.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I am intimately acquainted with Florida and the total state Black population is only 14.5% Black and besides that it is 51.5% White, 26.6% Hispanic, 2.3% Asian and 5.1% Other.

Which means that Blacks make up a higher percentage of Florida's population than Miami's. Also, imagine a large chunk of that Black population congregating in the relatively small area that is Miami/Miami Beach during Spring Break. The Black population would look far more extensive than it is.

Regardless, besides the fact that you're just wrong,

Wrong about what, specifically? The fact that a lot of Black people congregate in Miami during tourist season? Because multiple videos and news articles have been posted in this thread showing that that is indeed true.

I am also not wrong about the fact that the Black population in Florida (which you cited) and the Miami Metropolitan Area (which is at least 18%) is higher than it is in Miami proper.

So, no, I'm not wrong about anything. You're just ignorant.

 

[The Demon]

they honestly missed out on making it take place in pensacola. i'd buy that instantly

 

[I am Jack's dead arm]

Source?

It's a "joke". That's Luis, the protagonist from The Ballad of Gay Tony.

 

[TheHarbinger]

My biggest issue with this game is are they just going to give us a 30 hour single player experience to rush through while most of their resources are being put into the next decade of GTA Online?

Should be obvious. The game has an in universe social media platform. So your GTAnline character will have its own Tiktok/Instagram clone that you can upload game footage or screenshots to for other people to view. So they will rely heavily on user generated content of the lowest common denominator instead of detailed and well crafted single player campaigns and stories.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Late, but by trapping *all the natives up in a ghetto reservation away from the rest of the map, and disabling the player's ability to pull out their weapons, or even antagonize them.

*There technically are natives in the overworld you can shoot, but only when you encounter a specific gang in the epilogue that sometimes has them. In fact, said gang is currently speculated to have originally been comprised entirely of them due to a number of things, but was changed/cut due to plot problems, and the rest of the things involving their backstory being cut, too.

There are also natives that sometimes appear on the cliffs looking over the edges of the map, but they're rare, and hard to hurt because they're out of bounds, and typically run away as soon as they're spotted.

It sucked. They could have had Black Nite Folks, White Murfrees, and Indian Skinners that your pro-women’s suffrage pro-Indian burger kings kid club fights, but no, only Whires can be weird psycho hill people.

 

[The Last Stand]

Should be obvious. The game has an in universe social media platform. So your GTAnline character will have its own Tiktok/Instagram clone that you can upload game footage or screenshots to for other people to view. So they will rely heavily on user generated content of the lowest common denominator instead of detailed and well crafted single player campaigns and stories.

Speaking of which, I heard that R* is "rebranding" Social Club as something else. Rockstar Games platform, sounds so generic and corporate.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Miami, where Vice City is based, is about 70.4% Hispanic (all varieties), 13.6% Black, 11.4% White and 4.6% Other according to the 2021 Census.

Not 14% Black, 14% Black non-Hispanic.

This is why I say the trailer may not be THAT inflated. I don’t know how much of Miami is non-Cuban. I don’t know how much of the non-Cuban part is Afro-Caribeno. But I bet it’s quite higher than elsewhere in the country. It’s definitely inflated, but I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

 

[3-2-1836]

Not 14% Black, 14% Black non-Hispanic.

This is why I say the trailer may not be THAT inflated. I don’t know how much of Miami is non-Cuban. I don’t know how much of the non-Cuban part is Afro-Caribeno. But I bet it’s quite higher than elsewhere in the country. It’s definitely inflated, but I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

Are we still sperging about fucking demographic numbers? Lets put things in perspective, the two parts of the trailer that showed blacks that can be geographically pinned down is the blacks on the beach, which is South Beach in Miami Beach, and the low riders and shit which is in Wynwood in mainland Miami, Wynwood is sandwiched between Overtown which is 75% black, and I-195, which everything north of is majority black.

The population of Miami Beach is only 80,000, Miami Dade county has 378,000 blacks and Broward County, which county line is only 6 miles north of the northern point of Miami Beach, has 520,000 blacks, so within a 50 mile radius there's almost a million local blacks who all swarm the beach, this isn't including all the out of town blacks they bus into Miami during spring break, you might as well call the entire Florida coast north of I-195 Côte de Noir

Remember, white people go to Panama City for Spring break, not Miami.