Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

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Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 63 2.3%
  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 59 2.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 113 4.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 221 8.0%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 784 28.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,103 40.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 14 0.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 81 2.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 77 2.8%
  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 713 25.9%
  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 217 7.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 399 14.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 98 3.6%
  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 327 11.9%

  • Total voters
    2,748
I've always found it hilarious how fucked up the economy of this game is and these odd jobs really put the awfulness into perspective. Just look at this, making nearly $45K a day delivering fucking pizzas...

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This is giving me GTA III vibes. I was going to cite how the first missions, Luigi's Girls, would give you $1500 for picking up a prostitute and taking her back to Luigi's. But, Claude works as a hired gun so it fits.

Then, I remembered that taxi rides net you a few hundred dollars within minutes.
 
This is giving me GTA III vibes. I was going to cite how the first missions, Luigi's Girls, would give you $1500 for picking up a prostitute and taking her back to Luigi's. But, Claude works as a hired gun so it fits.

Then, I remembered that taxi rides net you a few hundred dollars within minutes.
That was before GTA IV.
Vigilante, Firefighter, Taxi Driver...
Oh man.
 
I loved how GTA IV did their vigilante missions, spawning in the FIB Buffalo to access the most wanted list was so fucking cool.
Speaking of, last time I tried to play Gay Tony on pc (couple years ago), there was something wrong with one of the early missions, and I was unable to progress at all. Is there any fix for this?
 
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Where do I start with this? The "Proud Ally" billboard from that GTA VI screenshot is satirizing corporations that preach LGBTQ+ acceptance for easy marketing.

The top response is from San Andreas, not The Ballad of Gay Tony. In that, San Fierro is an expy of San Francisco, which DID have those flags hanging on light poles. That's not on Rockstar being "woke;" that's Rockstar wanting to be accurate with their source material.

Lastly, I wouldn't exactly classify The Ballad of Gay Tony being "woke" just because there's a gay, central character in the plot. Tony Prince is a flawed, hysterical character throughout his many interactions. The game does not glorify his actions or behaviors nor do the supporting characters either.

Almost everybody demeans Tony for his sexual orientation with slurs and insults. Story ends, everybody still holds those same resentments against him. Again, the writing makes sure that they don't classify those feelings as outright evil itself or even have the characters show remorse for them. Two great examples would be Ray Bulgarian and Luis' childhood friends.
 
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Where do I start with this? The "Proud Ally" billboard from that GTA VI screenshot is satirizing corporations that preach LGBTQ+ acceptance for easy marketing.

The top response is from San Andreas, not The Ballad of Gay Tony. In that, San Fierro is an expy of San Francisco, which DID have those flags hanging on light poles. That's not on Rockstar being "woke;" that's Rockstar wanting to be accurate with their source material.

Lastly, I wouldn't exactly classify The Ballad of Gay Tony being "woke" just because there's a gay, central character in the plot. Tony Prince is a flawed, hysterical character throughout his many interactions. The game does not glorify his actions or behaviors nor do the supporting characters either.

Almost everybody demeans Tony for his sexual orientation with slurs and insults. Story ends, everybody still holds those same resentments against him. Again, the writing makes sure that they don't classify those feelings as outright evil itself or even have the characters show remorse for them. Two great examples would be Ray Bulgarian and Luis' childhood friends.
All I want is rockstar to make ONE character as stereotypical as the gay mexican who bums Jeffrey OG LOC in prison or Florian Cravic Bernie Crane in GTA IV.
 
Speaking of, last time I tried to play Gay Tony on pc (couple years ago), there was something wrong with one of the early missions, and I was unable to progress at all. Is there any fix for this?
What was the mission? Was it where Henrique has to blow up a wall to proceed? If so, your frame rate is too high for it to properly trigger for whatever reason. Try bumping into or shooting at Henrique to trigger it.
 
I'm not even a huge fan of GTA, but I thought this video was hilarious.


Some British guy regurgitates reddit talking points of:

-The power fantasy of GTA is problematic.
-America bad, so the game isn't funny now because it's too real.
-Rockstar Open worlds are shallow (I actually don't disagree with that).
-Fans are just nostalgic.
-Crunch bad.

I will give him some credit, he acknowledges that the game is going to be a culture war nightmare.
 
What was the mission? Was it where Henrique has to blow up a wall to proceed? If so, your frame rate is too high for it to properly trigger for whatever reason. Try bumping into or shooting at Henrique to trigger it.
No I think it was (one of?) the underground boxing ring mission
 
I'm not even a huge fan of GTA, but I thought this video was hilarious.


Some British guy regurgitates reddit talking points of:

-The power fantasy of GTA is problematic.
-America bad, so the game isn't funny now because it's too real.
-Rockstar Open worlds are shallow (I actually don't disagree with that).
-Fans are just nostalgic.
-Crunch bad.

I will give him some credit, he acknowledges that the game is going to be a culture war nightmare.
The whole meme around it is already fucking insufferable. Don't even want to play the damn thing anymore. Gonna be long internet blackout for me once it releases.
 
The whole meme around it is already fucking insufferable. Don't even want to play the damn thing anymore. Gonna be long internet blackout for me once it releases.
I might have said it on here before, but I think the game is going to "disappoint". The game will probably sell well enough and be fun, but I think that sales expectations are going to be astronomical, and fans are going to be left upset (due to a combination of unrealistic expectations and losing everything they owned from GTA V's online).
 
I'm not even a huge fan of GTA, but I thought this video was hilarious.


Some British guy regurgitates reddit talking points of:

-The power fantasy of GTA is problematic.
-America bad, so the game isn't funny now because it's too real.
-Rockstar Open worlds are shallow (I actually don't disagree with that).
-Fans are just nostalgic.
-Crunch bad.

I will give him some credit, he acknowledges that the game is going to be a culture war nightmare.
Video seems to be getting dragged.
Which I imagine was the intent all along.
 
-The power fantasy of GTA is problematic.
-America bad, so the game isn't funny now because it's too real.
God, I hate that word. Of course crime should be "problematic" for anybody with common sense. The power fantasy that GTA brings is interjecting yourself into the criminal underworld while allowing the freedom to experience those crafted worlds as an active participant. This is the same argument back then where GTA was the cause of people enacting violence from video games. Moral hysteria that completely misses the point, only now the moral guardians of woke have injected the entertainment industry.
 
I might have said it on here before, but I think the game is going to "disappoint". The game will probably sell well enough and be fun, but I think that sales expectations are going to be astronomical, and fans are going to be left upset (due to a combination of unrealistic expectations and losing everything they owned from GTA V's online).
I don't think it could ever possibly live up to the expectations and hype people have of it and if some of the rumors are true [that Rockstar has added a shit-ton of "life sim" features, sort of like how you could make CJ lift weights in San Andreas to make your melee attacks more damaging, etc.] it's going to suffer from insane feature-creep where there are just way too many aspects to keep track of during gameplay, meaning to some it will be an unplayable morass and likely filled with activities people will do once and then never again. Rockstar already kinda went in this direction with RDR2, which was praised at first for being "realistic", but as time has gone on people now in retrospect find it annoying and odious. Like needing to brush your damn horse every five minutes, long ass 'searching pockets' animations or skinning animations every time you loot a corpse, so on and so forth.

I don't expect it to be outright bad, but I think it's impossible that it can live up to the hype. Regardless it's still going to be basically a cultural event, like there will probably be statistically significant call-offs/sick days or PTO taken in the days following release.
 
Rockstar has added a shit-ton of "life sim" features, sort of like how you could make CJ lift weights in San Andreas to make your melee attacks more damaging, etc.] it's going to suffer from insane feature-creep where there are just way too many aspects to keep track of during gameplay, meaning to some it will be an unplayable morass and likely filled with activities people will do once and then never again.
I would guess they would try to add those "sim-life" elements to coincide with GTA RP. They're going all in with VI to make it THE biggest video game yet; they have all the hype built up for free marketing and anticipation.

I don't expect it to be outright bad, but I think it's impossible that it can live up to the hype. Regardless it's still going to be basically a cultural event, like there will probably be statistically significant call-offs/sick days or PTO taken in the days following release.
That's what I'll be doing, not going to lie. I've been a GTA fan since III. The massive hype itself does not matter to me, although I am bitter that many GTA fans now are just "fans" of GTA Online or memes from San Andreas. Tourists so to speak. That's not even getting into the cultural shock as pointed out with GTA wanting to be "more sensitive" to minorities.

Basically, this:

 
while allowing the freedom to experience those crafted worlds as an active participant
What's irritating is that Rockstar has been walking back on this ever since GTA: SA. Claude, Tommy, Huang Lee are all unrepentant career criminals, and it's fun to play as them. They genuinely do not give a shit and their personality and behavior fits the gameplay well.

CJ and Niko on the other hand are F-grade faggots that whine about everything, and it's difficult to buy their moralfagging when you're busy running over civilians on the sidewalk while trying to escape the cops outside of cutscenes.

has added a shit-ton of "life sim" features
Will you get to experience the thrilling life of a Latina single mother, changing the diapers of your bastard creatura, or making your White beta provider do it for you?

So exciting!

Also, I find the multiple protagonist "feature" in GTA V, and now GTA VI, completely loathsome.
 
Thanks for reminding me. I predict that player counts for several popular games will significantly plummet upon GTA VI's release date, maybe even for a week. If the next Online releases separately, then it'll likely be sporadic between V's Online and VI.

How would Twitch engagement work then? Maybe I could see a spike in viewers and views because people would want to see people play GTA VI for the first time, then what about spoilers? Perhaps people that could not afford or obtain the game would rewatch streams/videos/marketing content.

I fully expect the Internet to massively overreact to GTA VI in every space imaginable. It'll rival that of Donald Trump's first presidency.
 
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