Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[AnOminous]

The Magistrate could have very well resolved all this at ANY time in these past 5 years. One of his superiors, in fact, got tired of his shit and did solve it

Oh well, if the case goes on until 2028 or so his term will be over and maybe someone competent will take over.

 

[talk talk talk]

We have to keep in mind that we have been watching Russtard for years. The judge only has seen what has been filed in court.

Have you ever tried explaining Russtard to a normie? How they couldn't believe such an evil shit could exist? The court doesn't know what we know and can't comprehend how horrible Russtard actually is. That's the tard armor.

It's going to take a while to knock a hole in the tard armor and there will be blows struck by Hardin that are deflected by the armor.

 

[DHugo]

We have to keep in mind that we have been watching Russtard for years. The judge only has seen what has been filed in court.

Have you ever tried explaining Russtard to a normie? How they couldn't believe such an evil shit could exist? The court doesn't know what we know and can't comprehend how horrible Russtard actually is. That's the tard armor.

It's going to take a while to knock a hole in the tard armor and there will be blows struck by Hardin that are deflected by the armor.

To add, we have footage/audio of judges talking to him, and even when he made threats towards the opposing party, the judge calmed down and nicely explained law basics so he'd understand what's wrong with his arguments. I guess they hoped a sad retard would change?

 

[AnOminous]

We have to keep in mind that we have been watching Russtard for years. The judge only has seen what has been filed in court.

This particular magistrate judge has been on the case since the very beginning in 2020. There has been lots filed. The District Judge previously on the case took it back from him, perhaps tired of him fiddle farting around like he is now, and disposed of it herself.

 

[Billy Bong]

Discovery on discovery when there's been no discovery yet. Bold move judge

 

[Captain Manning]

We have to keep in mind that we have been watching Russtard for years. The judge only has seen what has been filed in court.

That's maybe a fair point, I guess. I was gonna say I like the judge in Stabby's case better, but Stabby has like... what 50 pieces of litigation that went absolutely nowhere, and is a vexatious litigant in how many districts?

I am guessing that case is gonna get yeeted before this one.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Discovery on discovery when there's been no discovery yet. Bold move judge

There has been discovery. Russ has been sanctioned over it

 

[Harvey Danger]

It's a fair enough slapdown on requesting information about the process of discovery. But the last part, "Mr. Greer has already provided a summary of his litigation history and the documents he was able to recover", is pure bullshit.

"Defendants can access court dockets as easily as Mr. Greer" given that list needs to be shown to be inaccurate, or at least optimistic. I think the judge only gets away with this if he thinks Hardin hasn't made a good argument that Greer provided an incomplete history. Maybe Hardin needs to explain to the judge slowly, using small words and clear bullet points, which suits Greer left off his history, and which cases Hardin/Josh can not access. Or maybe the judge is waiting for a specifically timed motion accusing Greer of such at the end of discovery.

But then he's also waiting for a specific timed motion accusing Greer of having no evidence, a specific motion objecting when Greer tries to introduce new witnesses, a specific Motion to Dismiss at an exact moment when discovery is over, etc. This process would go a lot faster if the judge would just provide his pre-determined roadmap of acceptable motions so Hardin can fill in the blanks as they stumble along.

I guess I have to shift the Magistrate back into the "annoyed at both sides" category. Maybe he's lining up to accuse Hardin of having just as little evidence as Greer, if the only thing he's asking for is litigation history. He sounded skeptical of that line of inquiry in the scheduling conference transcript. But I honestly don't know what else Hardin needs to line up, other than case law and a fair use argument. Maybe he just needs to pile expert testimony and affidavits into discovery so the judge feels like he's trying a normal defense against a normal claim.

 

[BoomerPrime]

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Is this judge having a laugh when he frames Null and Hardin as the ones pointlessly extending the litigation?

"...will not permit wasted time..."

Seriously: fuck this judge.

It's a fair enough slapdown on requesting information about the process of discovery. But the last part, "Mr. Greer has already provided a summary of his litigation history and the documents he was able to recover", is pure bullshit.

It is absolutely bullshit and it shouldn't be Hardin's job to go through PACER to recover all of Russtard's drool leavins' on the Federal docket.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Mr. Greer is not entitled to a stay. If this Court chooses to grant such a stay, it should be in the full amount of the damages Mr. Greer has cause as set forth at ECF No. 228, rather than in the reduced amount this Court awarded at ECF No. 230

He's not wrong, but the judge might get pissy about Hardin trying an end run around the reduction.

Also I believe Hardin meant "the required bond should be in the full amount".

A stay on the ability of the Defendants to collect the meager sanctions they were already awarded until this litigation concludes – which may be years away, as this case is already approaching its fifth birthday with no trial in sight – would effectively leave defendants to shoulder the full burden of Mr. Greer’s litigation misconduct, unreimbursed, while Mr. Greer remains free to repeat that conduct and impose needless costs on the defense going forward.

Yeah? And what are you gonna do about it, buddy boy?
- the judge, probably

 

[a hapless toad]

I know I'm being optimistic but I feel like the judge is trying to keep this strictly to the copyright issue. Whether that is a good or bad thing, I have no fucking clue.

 

[CEO of Gay]

Are we absolutely certain this magistrate doesn't have a Wormtongue whispering in his ear? Or that dealing with Greer is making the magistrate butthurt by reminding him that he too, is retarded?

 

[waffle]

You can tell Hardin is getting tired of the judge handling Russ with tard gloves from all the citations for basic shit.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I know I'm being optimistic but I feel like the judge is trying to keep this strictly to the copyright issue. Whether that is a good or bad thing, I have no fucking clue.

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Maybe they'll finally acknowledge that Greer has presented no evidence, has no witnesses, and has agreed to not testify himself. They have to acknowledge at some point that there's basically no way for this case to progress.

 

[obsdj]

It's a fair enough slapdown on requesting information about the process of discovery. But the last part, "Mr. Greer has already provided a summary of his litigation history and the documents he was able to recover", is pure bullshit.

"Defendants can access court dockets as easily as Mr. Greer" given that list needs to be shown to be inaccurate, or at least optimistic. I think the judge only gets away with this if he thinks Hardin hasn't made a good argument that Greer provided an incomplete history. Maybe Hardin needs to explain to the judge slowly, using small words and clear bullet points, which suits Greer left off his history, and which cases Hardin/Josh can not access.

Shit like this is why Hardin needs to stop inserting cute little references to ouija boards and other florid comments and just succinctly make clear the points that have been made in this thread. A bulleted timeline of events, without extraneous colorful vocabulary words, might've been useful before now. The record is getting longer and crazier and just like with the Melinda bullshit, the judge isn't happy about having to plow through it all.

 

[talk talk talk]

I'm gonna trust that Hardin is smart enough and experienced enough to read his judges.

 

[Post Reply]

The record is getting longer and crazier and just like with the Melinda bullshit, the judge isn't happy about having to plow through it all.

The judges could stop Russ from treating their filing system as his personal blog, forcing Hardin to respond to all of his insane rambling. They choose not to.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I'm still waiting for Hardin to file an injunction against Russell seeing anymore prostitutes until he's been paid!

 

[obsdj]

There has been discovery. Russ has been sanctioned over it

That reminds me, I've mentioned this a couple of times, but the thread's been moving fast with the recent filings.

Isn't there a distinct legal difference between an order (such as for sanctions in an ongoing case) and a judgment (which it's my impression is a final ruling in a case, at least until it inevitably gets appealed)?

Greer's idiotic motion for stay/bond/wahhhh references FRCP 62, which does discuss motions to stay proceedings enforcing a judgment. But a judgment isn't an order, right? Isn't this request to stay enforcing the order complete fairyland made-up bullshit?

 

[StinkySnack]

That reminds me, I've mentioned this a couple of times, but the thread's been moving fast with the recent filings.

Isn't there a distinct legal difference between an order (such as for sanctions in an ongoing case) and a judgment (which it's my impression is a final ruling in a case, at least until it inevitably gets appealed)?

Greer's idiotic motion for stay/bond/wahhhh references FRCP 62, which does discuss motions to stay proceedings enforcing a judgment. But a judgment isn't an order, right? Isn't this request to stay enforcing the order complete fairyland made-up bullshit?

You’re literally telling Hardin, a lawyer, what he should and shouldn’t be doing, yet you’re completely ignorant on a basic question like this? Fuck, what a retard.