Group Homes for Autistics

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The boring reality of it all is that Chris will eventually be appointed a social worker. The social worker will be taking care of all these tasks like finding housing and some basic job. He'll no longer have to be "working on it"

Do bums get social workers?

some do, but anyone with a social worker has to want the the assistance and cooperate. that's kind of where the idea of Chris having one falls apart.

 

[Fishkill]

The boring reality of it all is that Chris will eventually be appointed a social worker. The social worker will be taking care of all these tasks like finding housing and some basic job. He'll no longer have to be "working on it"

Do bums get social workers?

some do, but anyone with a social worker has to want the the assistance and cooperate. that's kind of where the idea of Chris having one falls apart.

I could see that, Chris would most likely not want to get a job, or maybe even a new house. Chris would have so much moving to do with all the stuff he has in his room alone,he would either have to get off his lazy ass and work constantly or stay in a decaying house. (and I want his land mass filling vidya collection TBH)

 

[BlockyStyle]

Years ago I worked at a home for the mentally handicapped [...] Also, vidya and TV were forbidden at that place, so pure hell for CWC.

Really interesting post! I was surprised at tv and vidya not being allowed. I used to work in mental health, sometimes with people who had been recently discharged from psychiatric hospitals (obviously a bit different from a home for the mentally handicapped), and they often said there was nothing to do but watch tv and smoke!

It's really hard to say whether Chris would be suited for a group home. I feel like his living skills might be just good enough that someone assessing him would say "this guy is capable of living on his own; we can't take him." For instance, the fact that he can cook microwave pizza and Hungry Man dinners shows that he can look after his own food, even if the actual diet he ends up getting is pretty bad.

 

[3Yikes]

some do, but anyone with a social worker has to want the the assistance and cooperate. that's kind of where the idea of Chris having one falls apart

Um, no it doesn't, if Barb dies.

 

[Marvin]

some do, but anyone with a social worker has to want the the assistance and cooperate. that's kind of where the idea of Chris having one falls apart

Um, no it doesn't, if Barb dies.

Chris is legally an adult.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Yeah, what people are forgetting is that the government can't put any sort of meaningful authority over Chris's life unless he's sent to jail or institutionalized for being insane. "Rabid dog" insane, not "Cakefarts" insane. If Chris somehow ended up in a group home, they'd just tell him he has to follow the rules or leave, and he'd end up leaving and going back to 14BC.

 

[CatParty]

Yeah, what people are forgetting is that the government can't put any sort of meaningful authority over Chris's life unless he's sent to jail or institutionalized for being insane. "Rabid dog" insane, not "Cakefarts" insane. If Chris somehow ended up in a group home, they'd just tell him he has to follow the rules or leave, and he'd end up leaving and going back to 14BC.

he couldn't afford to pay to be put into a home. unless rocky can either pull more strings or take him in, he's all on his lonesome once barb goes.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Yeah, what people are forgetting is that the government can't put any sort of meaningful authority over Chris's life unless he's sent to jail or institutionalized for being insane. "Rabid dog" insane, not "Cakefarts" insane. If Chris somehow ended up in a group home, they'd just tell him he has to follow the rules or leave, and he'd end up leaving and going back to 14BC.

he couldn't afford to pay to be put into a home. unless rocky can either pull more strings or take him in, he's all on his lonesome once barb goes.

Yeah. We really need to kill this notion that a publicly-funded group home is an option for Chris. It has a nice "happily ever after" vibe to it, but the real world doesn't work that way. If everyone can remember Chris shits his pants, they can remember this too.

 

[3Yikes]

Yeah. We really need to kill this notion that a publicly-funded group home is an option for Chris.

There are a lot of notions that need to be killed, but hey, there wouldnt be much of a forum without them, i guess.

 

[Marvin]

Yeah, what people are forgetting is that the government can't put any sort of meaningful authority over Chris's life unless he's sent to jail or institutionalized for being insane. "Rabid dog" insane, not "Cakefarts" insane. If Chris somehow ended up in a group home, they'd just tell him he has to follow the rules or leave, and he'd end up leaving and going back to 14BC.

he couldn't afford to pay to be put into a home. unless rocky can either pull more strings or take him in, he's all on his lonesome once barb goes.

Yeah. We really need to kill this notion that a publicly-funded group home is an option for Chris. It has a nice "happily ever after" vibe to it, but the real world doesn't work that way. If everyone can remember Chris shits his pants, they can remember this too.

This. Hell, not just the real world, but Virginia in particular doesn't work that way.

 

[Holdek]

As long as Chris continues to refuse to wash his own dirty, crapped briefs, I doubt Chris' stubbornness could ever be overestimated.

Um, no, assuming that shits himself as often and that he doesn't clean it already, the people at such a home can and will make him wash his own shit if they want to.

Perhaps. But most weren't raised by Bob and Barb.

I don't think you people realize, that there are people who are orders of magnitude worse than Chris in those homes. Chris is not some unique autistic exceptional individual that nobody can influence. There are hundreds of people like him out there, and worse, who simply don't have their own ED pages.

Well, I was speaking to the white trash, entitled, conspiracy-minded, persecution complexed, isolated childhood pop-culture dependent upbringing of Chris, who has also seen the world of his imagination made real with multiple battles against trolls for the entire Web to witness and which contributed to the ending of his offline relationships, bannings, and prosecution by the justice system. I do think that's unique.

 

[3Yikes]

Well, I was speaking to the white trash, entitled, conspiracy-minded, persecution complexed, isolated childhood pop-culture dependent upbringing of Chris, who has also seen the world of his imagination made real with multiple battles against trolls for the entire Web to witness and which contributed to the ending of his offline relationships, bannings, and prosecution by the justice system. I do think that's unique.

Nothing unique, as far as the real world is concerned. You just aren't aware of the rest of the nutjobs out there. And even if it was unique, I don't see how that would make him uncontrollable by people, who have dealt with worse, no doubt.

 

[Holdek]

Years ago I worked at a home for the mentally handicapped (instead of military service, we can choose whether we want to serve in the armed forces or do social work, conscription has been renounced recently though).

All of the kids who lived in the home (they were between 6 and 20 years old) were markedly lower functioning than Chris'tard, only a few of them could read and do basic math, none of them would have been able to drive a car or install a new OS on a computer. Some had to be fed or watched over constantly because they would run away and get into trouble. One young man had the unfortunate habit of wandering off to children's playgrounds, stand in the middle of the sandbox and jerk off.

Now, most of these kids actually got some sort of employment, many got jobs on a farm-plus-workshop that employed mentally disabeled adults.

I'm trying to picture in my head what would have happened if da Chris'tard had been there. He'd have been by far the most intelligent guy... Probably too intelligent for this type of institution. The sight of "window-to-hell" kids who need to be fed and cannot talk would have creeped him out. He wouldn't have liked at all having to do the dishes, help prepare food, sweep the floor etc. Also, vidya and TV were forbidden at that place, so pure hell for CWC.

I wonder if Chris is in a doughnut hole in terms of the group home fit: too 'tarded to take care of himself, too smart to to fit in in a home with 'tards. Maybe what he would need is a helper who would come by three times a week for an hour at a time to help him out with stuff instead, and he would live at 14 B-land.

The boring reality of it all is that Chris will eventually be appointed a social worker. The social worker will be taking care of all these tasks like finding housing and some basic job. He'll no longer have to be "working on it"

Do bums get social workers?

They can, but most don't want them.

Yeah, what people are forgetting is that the government can't put any sort of meaningful authority over Chris's life unless he's sent to jail or institutionalized for being insane. "Rabid dog" insane, not "Cakefarts" insane. If Chris somehow ended up in a group home, they'd just tell him he has to follow the rules or leave, and he'd end up leaving and going back to 14BC.

he couldn't afford to pay to be put into a home.

Chris gets a tugboat and Medicare. Affordability isn't really the issue; it's the lack of availability.

Well, I was speaking to the white trash, entitled, conspiracy-minded, persecution complexed, isolated childhood pop-culture dependent upbringing of Chris, who has also seen the world of his imagination made real with multiple battles against trolls for the entire Web to witness and which contributed to the ending of his offline relationships, bannings, and prosecution by the justice system. I do think that's unique.

Nothing unique, as far as the real world is concerned. You just aren't aware of the rest of the nutjobs out there.

You seem quite confident in your awareness of what I'm unaware of.

 

[LM 697]

Chris is too high-functioning compared to others who would benefit from or need this more.

 

[CalmMyTits]

That would depend on how Chris presented himself to social workers, I think. A criminal record certainly wouldn't make him seem TOO smart, and look at how he behaved when he was in jail that one afternoon. If he had a tard fit when someone told him that he could not live at 14BC anymore and had to live in a house with other slow in the minds, that certainly wouldn't prove his competence.

In any case, there is no way Chris can take care of the property by himself. He does understand that bills need to be paid, but it's a child's understanding. When I was a kid, I knew that bills existed, but I did not understand how much maintaining a house could be, and I'm not talking about all the money issues. Houses wear and tear over the years, you have to replace roofs, walls, pipes, siding, hot water tanks, and so on and so forth. If he has gas, then you have to worry about gas leaks. There's also vermin, mold, water damage, etc. Repairs for heating, air, electric, plumbing. The list goes on. No way in hell would Chris keep up on this.

Chris' best bet is an apartment, where the landlord has oversight over these things and will also inspect the units on a regular basis (provided he's a decent landlord)

 

[Marvin]

That would depend on how Chris presented himself to social workers, I think. A criminal record certainly wouldn't make him seem TOO smart, and look at how he behaved when he was in jail that one afternoon. If he had a tard fit when someone told him that he could not live at 14BC anymore and had to live in a house with other slow in the minds, that certainly wouldn't prove his competence.

I don't think Chris would accept a social worker.

In any case, there is no way Chris can take care of the property by himself. He does understand that bills need to be paid, but it's a child's understanding. When I was a kid, I knew that bills existed, but I did not understand how much maintaining a house could be, and I'm not talking about all the money issues. Houses wear and tear over the years, you have to replace roofs, walls, pipes, siding, hot water tanks, and so on and so forth. If he has gas, then you have to worry about gas leaks. There's also vermin, mold, water damage, etc. Repairs for heating, air, electric, plumbing. The list goes on. No way in hell would Chris keep up on this.

Heh, they don't maintain it as it is.

 

[GFYS]

Chris' best bet is an apartment, where the landlord has oversight over these things and will also inspect the units on a regular basis (provided he's a decent landlord)

...and when he inevitably fails to meet the standards for residency, they kick him out and he's back to square one.

The only penalty they can legally impose on Chris - if he doesn't comply with their rules - is to charge him for damages and force him to leave. With the exception of law enforcement and corrections agents, nobody can legally force Chris to do anything.

 

[qld]

It COULD HAPPEN. My partner worked in a group home for three years. Eight men with various developmental problems. Problems with being taken advantage of, having no concept of money, delayed gratification or healthy living. Chronic masturbators. Chronic mutual masturbators. "It's their home, and if they want to do it behind closed doors, then it is their right." They had 'advocates' or family members that could relocate them or help make decisions for them. The monthly tugboats paid 'rent' to stay there, and a balance was left over for clothes, activities, and leisure. Often, the balance would grow high so they would be forced to make an extravagant purchase so their tugboats wouldn't be affected by their cash assets. A $1500 dresser comes to mind. They have days to do their laundry, and are supposed to help, but wind up using a whole jug of detergent on one load or will stand for so long in front of the washer that it's more efficient for the staff to just do it. They'll pack the dryer so tight it won't dry. I've heard of clients there wiping their ass with their hand and smearing it on the slats of the wooden shutters. And the staff cleans it.
Someone, family or adult protective could petition the court for guardianship and commit him in a flash. If he had a tv and game system to bring, then he could have it and it would be his if that's what he wanted. He would still have money to spend on vidya. The only problem for him would be the structure and counseling they would try to provide. Healthy diet, food limitations and bedtimes and wakeup calls.
If he can't manage his money and loses his house, such a place could be in his future. From the people I've seen in them, he wouldn't necessarily be out of place. But of course, he would try to keep his house for a time. Then it would get so bad, he would be committed. Then the house and contents would be liquidated, and if the proceeds are all his, such an influx of cash could be bad for his tugboat if he is committed at the time. It's a delicate matter.

 

[The Dude]

I still maintain that Chris will most likely wind up homeless. I just don't see him having the self discipline, or enough money, to make all the needed bill payments to keep 14BC in his custody. He probably will not have enough money to pay all the fees and taxes to have all the vehicles and other property transferred to his name.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I think if he ever "lost" 14BC he'd just become a squatter and continue to occupy the house. I mean, who'd care enough to stop him? The cops who have been putting up with prank calls about squatters and meth labs in 14BC for years? The bank who'd have to put in thousands of dollars of hazmat cleanup just to sell the property at a loss?