Gypsies - A discussion on why they are the worst ethnic group

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Battlefield42 said:
Will Peter the Hungary ack the gypo menace???
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No, unfortunately. But neither would have Orban, considering he had about 90% of the gypsy vote - it's literally Orban's strongest demographic, it was pro-FIDESZ at a higher rate than people over 75 or people without an elementary school education were (the only other 2 voter demographics that majority voted FIDESZ).
 
latinlover said:
No, unfortunately. But neither would have Orban, considering he had about 90% of the gypsy vote - it's literally Orban's strongest demographic, it was pro-FIDESZ at a higher rate than people over 75 or people without an elementary school education were (the only other 2 voter demographics that majority voted FIDESZ).
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Sadly neither did/would/will do, imagine how fast eu jujucum money would stop!
 
How large are the gypsy populations in European countries really? The smaller estimates seem to be from outdated censuses from 10-20 years ago, and the insane estimates seem to be from "rights groups" and "NGOs" that are obviously incentivized to inflate the numbers.

What does the demographic situation actually look like, if you had to guess?
 
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ur_mom_lmaoooo said:
and the insane estimates seem to be from "rights groups" and "NGOs" that are obviously incentivized to inflate the numbers.
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If you've ever been to the Hungarian or Bulgarian countryside you know it's not inflated. Besides they don't really gain anything from inflating the numbers hypothetically, that's not how social funding gets allocated in any of these countries.

The censuses are not only outdated but also gipsies notoriously brutally underreport their own ethnicity when asked.
 
latinlover said:
If you've ever been to the Hungarian or Bulgarian countryside you know it's not inflated. Besides they don't really gain anything from inflating the numbers hypothetically, that's not how social funding gets allocated in any of these countries.

The censuses are not only outdated but also gipsies notoriously brutally underreport their own ethnicity when asked.
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So they're actually 10-20% of the population in some countries? With those numbers, wouldn't their percentage of births be even higher (like 20-30%) for any given country?

Is the future of Eastern Europe to have populations that are 20+% gypsy? 💀
 
ur_mom_lmaoooo said:
So they're actually 10-20% of the population in some countries? With those numbers, wouldn't their percentage of births be even higher (like 20-30%) for any given country?

Is the future of Eastern Europe to have populations that are 20+% gypsy? 💀
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20% is unrealistic. I can't speak for Slovakia and Romania but for Hungary and Bulgaria 9-10% (of gypsies in the entire population) is very much realistic, doubtful it's much higher than that in 2026.

Also yes, their percentage of births is much higher. In Hungary's case the national TFR is 1.5ish (this includes the gypsy population as well, mind you) and the gypsy TFR is between like 2.7-3.5 depending on the level of integration, but I think it's safe to say even the lowest estimate is the double of the 'white' birth rates. It's not unrealistic to assume that by 2050 Hungary's gypsy population will be 20%, or higher teens like 18-19% at the very least if nothing else changes.

This is why it's misguided to worry about the islamic hordes while simultaneously completely ignoring the gypsy question; rapefugees would never want to settle in Slovakia while Gipsies are going to actively replace the host population in just a few more decades. NONE of the far right parties actually deal with this elephant in the room especially at recent times all while these countries are actively in the process of having their demographics irreversably demolished.
 
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latinlover said:
20% is unrealistic. I can't speak for Slovakia and Romania but for Hungary and Bulgaria 9-10% is very much realistic, doubtful it's much higher than that in 2026.

Also yes, their percentage of births is much higher. In Hungary's case the national TFR is 1.5ish (this includes the gypsy population as well, mind you) and the gypsy TFR is between like 2.7-3.5 depending on the level of integration, but I think it's safe to say even the lowest estimate is the double of the 'white' birth rates.
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If not 20%, what percentage do you think is realistic in the next few decades as the older Hungarian/Bulgarian/etc. populations start to die off? Do any Eastern Euro countries collect ethnic birth statistics (like what percentage of births in 2025 were gypsies)? Anglo conservative circles like to portray Eastern Europe as the last bastion of homogenous European societies, but as you say, it seems like they're also facing down catastrophic demographic situations.
 
agent_donkey said:
As mentioned above, I would say roughly 10% in Hungary is realistic.
Becoming a minority in your own country sounds scary, but not as scary as your nationality browning into extinction by a thousand paper cuts, one "they are one of the good ones, why wouldn't I date them" at a time...
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They already make up 14.42% of primary school students in Hungary, though. And that was in 2011:

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I agree that slowly becoming diluted into non-existence is a worse fate than living as a minority, though. At least there's hope to recover from the latter.
 
agent_donkey said:
As mentioned above, I would say roughly 10% in Hungary is realistic.
Becoming a minority in your own country sounds scary, but not as scary as your nationality browning into extinction by a thousand paper cuts, one "they are one of the good ones, why wouldn't I date them" at a time...
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I'd be a bit more optimistic about that. People date mostly within their own socioeconomical and intellectual bubble/class, and in case of gypsyfication it's unlikely to happen in the upper ones. The brownification is already a thing particularly in industrial cities that had a massive influx and demand of low-qualification blue collar workforce, and that's the demography for which is a gypsy date just perfect or at least good enough.
In the worst case you end up with a fairly intelligent and skilled white minority. In the capital and in other states, if the remaining voter base in the home country gets gradually dumber in general because of brain-drain.
 
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I'd be a bit more optimistic about that. People date mostly within their own socioeconomical and intellectual bubble/class, and in case of gypsyfication it's unlikely to happen in the upper ones. The brownification is already a thing particularly in industrial cities that had a massive influx and demand of low-qualification blue collar workforce, and that's the demography for which is a gypsy date just perfect or at least good enough.
In the worst case you end up with a fairly intelligent and skilled white minority. In the capital and in other states, if the remaining voter base in the home country gets gradually dumber in general because of brain-drain.
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So like Zimbabwe or South Africa? Uh oh.

Gypsies are less intelligent but more violent than jeets. So they steal more.

The problem as to why this is happening are twofold.

First, westernism allows no dsicriminalisation, so gypoos can gibsmuh to the extreme.

Second, these eastern european places are impoverished by bad capitalism movements post cold war, and got bombed to shit in ww1-2. The white life here is very poor. Globalisation makes us oay US wage prices for things, which we can't afford. If you can't afford basic necessities you aren't planning for a family. So whites have at best 1 kid if a child is even on the table. Many can barely afford a yorkie child replacement.

Fixing this would need many steps:
-heavy nuclear investments for indistry.
-wage hikes, price controls and cheap housing, even if blackrock firm money needs to be confiscated. Mass infrastructure projects.
-This is why Orbán's baby boom plan worked so little. Tax cuts when you get 4 kids is good, but most people can never afford more than 1. Only the upper caste benefited. Mind any such incentives need to have a gypsies not apply rule....

So yeah we are all dead.
 
ur_mom_lmaoooo said:
If not 20%, what percentage do you think is realistic in the next few decades as the older Hungarian/Bulgarian/etc. populations start to die off?
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They're historically nomadic/semi-nomadic, and will fuck off to somewhere else (rest of EU in this case) when there's too many of them in one place (read: nothing left to steal, and even shitlibs are getting the pitchforks out). Don't know what the exact number is, but 20% is definitely not sustainable.
Gay Sex Enjoyer said:
Who's more adept at stealing, gyps or jeets?
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Gyps steal, jeets scam. Think of jeets as gyps who somehow got their image whitewashed, and consequently have access to infinitely more shit to pilfer.
 
Apteryx Retardi said:
and will fuck off to somewhere else (rest of EU in this case) when there's too many of them in one place (read: nothing left to steal, and even shitlibs are getting the pitchforks out).
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That's pretty optimistic.

You have to remember that gipsies are not uniformly distributed. 40-50%+ of ALL gipsies in Hungary live in the Northeast of Hungary, for example. The end result is not an equally distributed self sustaining ecosystem of 10% roach jeet gippoes in every single town/city/whatever, it's the 5th worldification of small settlements with an aging, died out white population replaced by gipsies moving in to these derelict village houses.

Also consider that gypsy birthrates being 3.0-3.5ish(which is already too high) is just an average. The people in these tiny village gypsy enclaves are breeding at a significantly higher rate than that, while the semi-urbanized gippoes are lower; most new gipsies are going to be of the 'Resident Evil 5 cannibal' kind, not the urbanized sort.

For the foreseeable future the issue isn't downtown Budapest, it's places becoming Csenyéte or Tiszabő.

Ps.: Gipsies also scam. Their area of expertise is not the classic teamviewer jeet tech scam; it's collecting donations for fake charities and bank impersonation telephone scams where they call you up pretending to be from the bank's security detail or whatever and tell you that you must urgently transfer all of your funds off the account to another account to preserve what you have left if you don't want it stolen. It's usually called "OTP" scam in Hungary but everywhere else it's different, OTP bank is the clear market leader there when it comes to retail banking accounts so they just assume it's what you have; if you tell them you don't bank with OTP they just hang up and maybe call you back a week later pretending to be from MBH bank or something. I think the universal term here is 'Vishing'.

It's an industry 0 white people participate in, when you get one of these calls you can hear the thickest gyppo accent ever unsuccessfully trying to sound like an actual human.
 
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