War Haiti’s freefall into an abyss can only be prevented if gangs are allowed to be part of a new government

Source: https://theconversation.com/haitis-...allowed-to-be-part-of-a-new-government-226999
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The poorest nation in the western hemisphere, Haiti, finds itself in a catastrophic situation. For close to a month now, the country has been lurching from one crisis to another. The underwriters of the anarchy are armed gangs.
Among their achievements are the removal of a sitting government, a near total takeover of the capital, Port-au-Prince, orchestrating a grinding humanitarian crisis, and generally stirring up mayhem across the country.
At the same time, however, Haiti’s freefall into an abyss can only be prevented if the gangs are put in the driver’s seat of governance.
For generations, Haiti’s gangs have received power, patronage and privileges from the country’s political establishment, the opposition and businesses. Militia gangs were formalised as power brokers under the leadership of the country’s former dictator, François “Papa Doc” Duvalier, in the late 1950s.
Although disbanded in the late 1980s, their legacies live on. The 200 or so marauding gangs that are currently terrorising Haitians can be traced back to the dreaded Tonton Macoute, a paramilitary and secret police force that Papa Doc implanted in the country’s political culture.
The de-facto head of a consortium of gangs that have brought Port-au-Prince to a standstill, Jimmy “Barbecue” Chérizier, has proposed that he (and the gangs he represents) would consider laying down weapons if armed groups were allowed to take part in talks to establish a new government.
In an interview with Sky News, he said: “If the international community comes with a detailed plan where we can sit together and talk, but they do not impose on us what we should decide, I think that the weapons could be lowered.”
The gangs’ demand that they be given a frontline role in Haiti’s future political landscape is not audacious. It is borne out of an astute reading of the realities on the ground.
Gangs are a permanent fixture in the country’s socioeconomic and political processes, and getting rid of them under the current circumstances is wishful thinking. Perhaps it is time the international community acknowledged this fact and devised a plan that can realistically address Haiti’s problems.

Spoilers​

The reason why many peace plans fail is due to the fact that they often refuse a place at the negotiating table to the groups that perpetrated the conflict in the first place.
The logic behind this is simple. It is considered unethical to give voice to the very elements responsible for past ills. And most peace plans consider the voice of the “moderators” as legitimate and not that of the “extremists”.
But such exclusive peace plans gives birth to another set of challenges. Those who are pushed out of negotiations and power-sharing arrangements become “spoilers”.
Spoilers are leaders who hold the view that any change in status quo undermines their interests. Nervous for their future, they set out to undermine any plan that seeks to establish normalcy in the society.

Savimbi’s spoiler war​

The Angolan civil war (which began in 1975) went on for years even after the signing of a peace agreementin 1991. The key architect of the civil war, Jonas Savimbi, had begun fighting for independence in the 1960s when Angola was still a colony of Portugal.
But Savimbi, billed as an anti-communist during the height of the cold war, was actually no more than a power-hungry opportunist. The rebel leader refused to accept the outcome of UN-monitored elections in 1992 in which his party Unita lost both power and influence, and embraced the role of a spoiler by choosing war over peace.
Between 1992 and 2002, he initiated a pointless and personal guerrilla war against the elected government. Hundreds of thousands of peasants were killed, wounded, displaced or starved to death.
Whatever the nature, character and past of the adversaries may be, any credible peace plan must incorporate provisions to accommodate the spoilers in order to have a fighting chance of success. Sponsors of any peace plan, external or homegrown, need to be vigilant and sensitive to the management of spoilers.

Lessons for Haiti​

Haiti’s collapse into anarchy has exacted a terrible human price. But there is no hiding the fact that gangs will remain the architects of Haiti’s future, no matter the colour and shape of the future government. There are three critical arenas where gang cooperation is indispensable.
First, an international peacekeeping force cannot be deployed to restore order without gang cooperation. The alternative to that would be body bags as the external force confronts hardened criminals well-versed in urban warfare. Chérizier has made no secret that plans for an international peacekeeping force led by Kenya in Port-au-Prince will lead to more violence, whoever is in charge.
Second, Haiti currently does not have a political elite capable of shouldering the responsibilities of an interim government. Thus, anyone harbouring political ambitions will require the support of the gangs to establish legitimacy. It is in this context that the active participation of gangs over tacit co-option in the political process is vital to ensure stability.
Third, in a country of non-existent or broken institutions, ironically it is the gangs who have a semblance of a command structure capable of getting things moving – be it water supply, the transport of goods, or the reopening of neighbourhoods. Whether you like it or not, it is the gangs who hold the key to Haiti’s future stability.
The armed gangs of Haiti have a very clear assessment of their power as movers and shakers of the country’s future. These demands should not be ignored. The alternative, as Chérizier has eloquently predicted, is “an escalation of violence” in a ruined polity with a terrified population already on its knees.
 
This is retarded. If taking over a country via brute force is rewarded via pardon and political recognition by other states, then you further incentivize other gangsters in situations similar to Haiti's into taking the same actions. You just set up a system of kleptocrats who resort to the previously accepted violence when the situation disadvantages them.
This is the traditional way. Norman invasion for example.
Haiti may in fact be 1000 years behind the rest of the world at this stage.
 
The Chad El Salvador (Put every single gang member in prison, throw away key) vs. The Virgin Haiti (Just give up and let them run the country) is more than a meme, it's how the left actually thinks......

The only way to curb completely out-of-control crime is to ask the gangs and thugs nicely to stop. And if they won't? Well, guess they're our new leaders, it's not like we can do anything about them.....
 
There is a reason why the Duvaliers and the Tonton Macoutes were a thing. Time to bring them back.
 
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So the solution is to do the exact same thing that led to the problems in the first place. Just blockade that shithole and let it all sort itself out, once they're gone somebody more civilized can move in and do something with the land for the first time since the French got kicked out.

We'll probably get some funny videos of them eating dirt cookies but I really hope we see a Cat 5 hurricane and earthquake in the near future.
 
This article is speaking about no one's first choice but he genuinely is making a good point. The gangs have taken the place over now, the legitimate government is in exile and the only choice to bring back that prior status quo is force. Who the hell wants to go to Haiti? What does Haiti have that's worth an invasion? The US has taken the place over and administered it before with the Navy and the Marine Corps and it didn't stick back then and we just saw Afghanistan. If we absolutely have to do something then just handing them the half island might be a better choice.
 
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its haiti, they need a dictator to thrive. whether its the duvaliers or BBQ, haitian cant function in a democracy
One of the things I've been musing on recently is how paranoid black people are.

For all the MSM sperging about "the black community," I don't think that's a thing that exists outside the liberal imagination.

Or listening to random American blacks talk about the cops, there's some rhetoric that would be schizo-tier were it coming from anyone else.

I think you could take a hundred whites from all walks of life and put them on a boat and you'd have more of a "community" inside a week than you have on a random city block in East Oakland where everyone's known everyone their whole lives.
 
From irrelevant somewhat-peaceful thirdworld, to hell on earth shithole.
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Just because I didn't really expand on what I meant by that post: Rafael Correa, the former president of Ecuador, granted legal status to a bunch of Ecuadorian gangs with the public justification that it was gonna make crime go down and now the country is embroiled in a bloody narco war just like mexico.

Granting political power or legal status to criminal organizations will do nothing to usher in peace, and if anything will only work to prevent it as these are groups who could not give a fuck about the making the country better and are only interested in their ill-gotten gains.
 
Just send a Ohio class Sub over and glass everything controlled by the gangs. Trident missiles would solve much of the problems in Haiti quickly.
 
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something something nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
 
you guys are soo mean.

The fucking goverment wasnt strong enough to weild the state monopoly on violence so give it to the strong man.
 
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This article is speaking about no one's first choice but he genuinely is making a good point. The gangs have taken the place over now, the legitimate government is in exile
There is no 'legitimate government'- the prior dictator took over after killing his predecessor, and his predecessor's term expired a year ago but he's refused to hold elections.

It would be reasonable to put Aristide- who the US overthrew twice- back in power if he was keen. He's still got about six years of term he was prevented from serving in the bank.
 
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