Culture Half Abo says : It is a 'damaging myth' that Captain Cook discovered Australia - It's happening. Stan Grant wants statues torn down.

"Aboriginal" Australian "Journalist" Stan Grant wants us to look towards the US's recent desecration of historical monuments as a beacon of "consideration" for how Australia should "proceed forward".

In other words, privilege half caste Stan Grant wants your racist white statues of Captain Cook torn down.

It seems to have taken some people by surprise, the idea that people were here for more than 60,000 years before the Endeavour dropped anchor.

What were we doing all that time, just waiting for white people to find us?

:story: Basically, yeah. That or the yellows from the north. You would have been eaten in that case.

Comment: It is a 'damaging myth' that Captain Cook discovered Australia

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Stan Grant

Who would have thought the mere suggestion that Captain Cook did not in fact discover Australia would be so controversial?
It seems to have taken some people by surprise, the idea that people were here for more than 60,000 years before the Endeavour dropped anchor.
What were we doing all that time, just waiting for white people to find us?
And to dare challenge this "discovery"; how impertinent. I can hear someone saying "know your place".
It has certainly ignited a debate and that is a good thing. History is not dead, it is not past or redundant, it is alive in all of us: we are history.
Responding to the tearing down of racist monuments in the United States prompted me to ask questions about our history; the story we choose to tell ourselves.


And it is a choice. The French historian Michel De Certeau wrote of history as the writing of absence — a therapeutic exercise that fills in the gaps, that allows us to construct a story that suits our ends like artefacts arranged in a shopfront window.
An empty land with an empty past
Where the Americans appear consumed by race, we prefer silence.
There is a history in Australia of not wanting to talk about the darker parts of our shared past.
It is written in our DNA, it is buried in the soil.
When a nation is founded on a doctrine of terra nullius — literally empty land — then it becomes too easy to ignore the people of that emptiness.
We don't have to reckon with the treatment of Aboriginal people because they are invisible. Indigenous people become a postscript to Australian history.
History itself becomes a hymn to whiteness.
This is what Captain Cook's statue in Sydney's Hyde Park tells us.
The inscription that Cook "Discovered this territory 1770" maintains a damaging myth, a belief in the superiority of white Christendom that devastated indigenous peoples everywhere.


Where does it come from? In 1452 Pope Nicholas V sanctioned the conquest, colonisation and exploitation of all non-Christian peoples.
In 1493 after Christopher Columbus returned from his so-called discovery of America, Pope Alexander VI decreed that land not ruled by Christian kings was free to be claimed.
No-one mattered until a white man arrived
The idea of terra nullius was the law of whiteness, that anyone who did not worship Jesus Christ was less than human.
The doctrines of discovery and terra nullius have been demolished by the church, by our courts, by the United Nations.
The UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues says the Discovery doctrine is the "foundation of the violation of their (Indigenous people) human rights".
How in Australia do we maintain the ceremonial fig leaf of welcomes to country while a statue stands in the centre of our largest city proclaiming to the world that no one here mattered until a white person "discovered" the land?


That is the problem with Australia, a land of gestures and tokens with no substantial recognition of indigenous peoples and our history, no treaties (the only Commonwealth country without one) and now a go-slow on constitutional reform that would give indigenous peoples a voice in our founding document that was originally written to exclude us.
Earlier this month I attended the Garma festival and indigenous forum for political, business, industry and cultural leaders on Yolngu country in northeast Arnhem Land.
Gumatj leader Galarrwuy Yunupingu opened the event in his language. These are, he said, Australian words.


They are the words of this land, connecting us to a deep past.
These are words for all of us.
My father has dedicated his life to saving and reviving our language — Wiradjuri — a language his grandfather was jailed for speaking.
Language, he says, does not tell you who you are, but where you are.
This is our heritage, all of us: Australians.
We cheat ourselves when we deny or diminish this rich history.
I want to believe in us as Australians. This is in so many ways an extraordinary country.
Cook is part of my story
I want to believe in "we" not "us and them". But we means all of us.
Captain Cook is part of my story; an extraordinary seaman and navigator.
The songlines, dreaming and language of the first peoples should be cherished by all of us.
To non-Indigenous people I say that tradition is part of your heritage. That's what Galarrwuy Yunupingu means; that's my father's dream.
Australia is founded on three grand stories: the First Nations, the British tradition and the richness of our migration story.
But it starts with us. We are not invisible.
Our frontier resistance warriors deserve a place on the war memorial wall of remembrance.
I should not have to cross a river named in honour of a man who wanted us exterminated.
This is not 1770 or 1901. This is not the first fleet or federation. This is 2017.
We have a voice, our lives matter.
After all, we discovered this country.

Please remember that Australian Aboriginals are afforded a high degree of social care. They have access to free health care, can get special loans to help, can get education paid for, have extensive community outreach programs available to them, have every single possible consideration available to them on the planet. The country is well maintained, they are included and respected to levels that other "natives" across the world would kill to have. Of course things weren't perfect, aren't perfect, but they lived in humpies until "evil whitey" came here. Now they have houses (which they tear down because they aren't good enough for them).

Left to their own devices, they create situations like Palm Island.

It wasn't enough that the Hawaiian natives ate him, now Cook has to have his statues torn down too.
 
Yeah, didn't that Dutchman discover Australia?

Van Tasman? Yes he did. But if we're playing that game we could say the Chinks discovered it first. IIRC, it's been documented that they traded sea cucumbers with the Abo's of Arnhem Land. Cook gets the credit however because he circumnavigated Australia, and properly mapped it.
 
Van Tasman? Yes he did. But if we're playing that game we could say the Chinks discovered it first. IIRC, it's been documented that they traded sea cucumbers with the Abo's of Arnhem Land. Cook gets the credit however because he circumnavigated Australia, and properly mapped it.

Janszoon found it like 30 years before that.

Either way the whole 'it wasn't discovered, people already lived there' is a stupid notion because standing on Australian dirt like a dumb abbo isn't the accomplishment people are honouring, it's sailing halfway across the world in a rickety-ass wooden boat to get there. If an abbo managed to canoe his unwashed paleolithic ass all the way to Amsterdam a couple hundred years ago we'd be impressed as fuck with him and the Dutch would probs build him a statue. Seriously, when do you hear about Europe being discovered by the Europeans. They already lived there, it's not a fucking accomplishment.

All in all this is just a dumb nigger who's mad that white people did amazing things and abbos aren't getting a participation trophy just for existing.
 
Pee Oh Cees have a problem understanding what discovery of a land means. It doesn't mean that whitey thinks the land magically sprung up out of nowhere just for them to find. The white devil doesn't believe that the natives just appeared as soon as they set their white feet on the land as if they were gods of creation. It just means that they found something that was new to them. And then we mapped it out and created proper documentation for others to use. Because if you are going to sail around you better have a good idea of what's out there.

It's the same problem with the New World. It was new to European explorers. Because they hadn't seen it yet. It must have been really exciting to discover all of these land masses for the first time. And while some people did some really bad things that doesn't mean that every white explorer was Satan himself. These silly "activists" should have more respect for the age of exploration.

Just like the UK copied BLM now Australia is going to copy our hostile take down of monuments that hurt our feelings. I don't really want those monuments damaged or destroyed. They are part of history and belong in museums if people are uncomfortable with them out in the open. But we've got dindus torching Lincoln statues now and it can only get worse from there. Watch some idiot attempt to damage the Lincoln Memorial or something like that now.
 
It's good that we recognized bad shit like slavery, and there's no wrong in wanting to preserve your culture (the white tattoos are super cool) but when you're so used to technology and democracy, which are things the white man bringed in, shitting on the silver plate you eat in is not very appropriate
 
I'd note that in 60,000 years, other people developed agriculture, animal husbandry, fortifications an d other advances.

Aboriginies invented a pointy stick and a bent stick.

Why would you want to remind everyone that you have existed for 60,000 years when your only notable accomplishments in all that time are different shaped sticks.

Though traditionally thought of as Australian, boomerangs have been found also in ancient Europe, Egypt, and North America.

Hunting sticks discovered in Europe seem to have formed part of the Stone Age arsenal of weapons.


One boomerang that was discovered in Jaskinia Obłazowa in the Carpathian Mountains in Poland was made of mammoth's tusk and is believed, based on AMS dating of objects found with it, to be about 30,000 years old.
In the Netherlands, boomerangs have been found in Vlaardingen and Velsen from the first century BC. King Tutankhamun, the famous Pharaoh of ancient Egypt, who died over 3,300 years ago, owned a collection of boomerangs of both the straight flying (hunting) and returning variety.

But in the stone age... Everyone had Boomerangs.
Seriously though, when speaking of Aboriginal archaeology, they don't have anything past the stone age, until Europeans arrive. It's literally referred to as "The Post Contact Iron Age".

Stan Grant though, is an idiot. He's mixed with white, he had an aboriginal wife and he cheated on her and left her (and their kids) and shacked up with a white woman. He also used to work for CNN.
 
Stan Grant though, is an idiot. He's mixed with white, he had an aboriginal wife and he cheated on her and left her (and their kids) and shacked up with a white woman. He also used to work for CNN.

So, to make a long story short, a complete asshole with mommy and daddy racial issues drags said issues into public and awaits asspasts for it? Maybe he should accompany Yassmin to London and leave this darn dirty white supremacist Australia which overflows with antibiotics, anaesthetics and cheap sheepmeat.
 
At least the Natives moved past Stone Aged technology like developing farms and all that, even at the Polar caps. They were more advanced when it came to the Mesoamerican civilizations. Some examples included mathematics, astronomy, and literature. Plus, a variety of foods that made what we come to know.

Aboriginals on the other hand is what you guys pointed out. Primitive technology wise, but without the cannibalism of the Pacific islanders. They got budgies though.
 
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How? look at these things, they look like monkeys.
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