Hardware recommendations general - or how to blow your cooftard bucks

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Oh, and https://www.logicalincrements.com/ is another site for showing the "scale" of parts and where they fall against each other and will be useful if you want to downgrade the GPU on the pcpartpicker generated build to save money.

Another good idea is to pick up cheaper large size hard drives for music, movies, pictures, documents, and whatever else you have and do that doesn't depend on fast load times.
 
Oh, and https://www.logicalincrements.com/ is another site for showing the "scale" of parts and where they fall against each other and will be useful if you want to downgrade the GPU on the pcpartpicker generated build to save money.

Another good idea is to pick up cheaper large size hard drives for music, movies, pictures, documents, and whatever else you have and do that doesn't depend on fast load times.

Yeah I have a number of those sitting around already, though, so I'll probably just use them even though they're junk. It's not like it really matters if they blow up.
 
I couldent be assed to read all the other posts, but if someone mentioned it just mark me late.

I would wait a bit with upgrading now, Ayymd is planning to launch the ryzen series 5 which will violate the intel i9 and possibly future series. so if you dont want top spec, the ryzen series 3 will go down in price as the new one launches (which also competes with the incel 9)

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as for graphics if you need it now, id say go nvidia, but if you have time id say wait and see how the new card from AMD Big Navi stacks up against the 3XXX series
 
The only odd drawback ive noticed on these is that the The m.2 ssd slots only support NVME drives.
I was planning on getting one of these AMD DeskMini's (A300w) at launch, but when review units came out it was revealed that one of the key benefits of the lower end Ryzen APU's, (that they are unlocked for overclocking) would not be possible to use on A300w because overclocking is unsupported in the BIOS.
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It's possible that has changed, or a workaround has been found, but I have not seen anything about it.
 
I was planning on getting one of these AMD DeskMini's (A300w) at launch, but when review units came out it was revealed that one of the key benefits of the lower end Ryzen APU's, (that they are unlocked for overclocking) would not be possible to use on A300w because overclocking is unsupported in the BIOS.
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It's possible that has changed, or a workaround has been found, but I have not seen anything about it.
I'm not aware of a change with the a300 but they are making a new version (x300) that supports it for an increased price.
 
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"Power consumption" is a metric only for businesses that plan on running hundreds of units.
The difference between a Haswell-E with dedicated GPU I once owned and this computer in my usage scenario is about 200 euros a year in power consumption. Alone for what that other computer's GPU ate in idle, I could run another one of these. I did mention that power is more expensive here.

Also power consumption indirectly also gives you a hint how much heat something probably produces and how much you'll have to cool it to remain usable. A small room can get hot and/or loud quickly that way, some components will also need a bigger case and a more intricate and expensive cooling solution to be cooled appropriately without constantly running at their thermal limit otherwise. It's by no means a useless metric, even if you don't care about saving electricity otherwise.

I would not buy the 3200G or 3400G though, the 4xxxG have outclassed them by a wide margin and for the little price difference they have in my parts at least, there's no reason to get the Picassos. I don't know how available they're in the US though, here you can get at least the Pro APUs everywhere last time I checked. If they're not available yet where you are, just wait a month or so, it's worth it. Also unrelated to performance, AMD is not nearly as shitty a company as Intel and their PSP isn't nearly as invasive and troubling as intel's ME. (AFAIK AMDs PSP doesn't even have a network stack)

I was planning on getting one of these AMD DeskMini's (A300w) at launch, but when review units came out it was revealed that one of the key benefits of the lower end Ryzen APU's, (that they are unlocked for overclocking) would not be possible to use on A300w because overclocking is unsupported in the BIOS.

Overclocking on Ryzen is largely a Fool's errand anyways, that shouldn't really stop you. What maybe could/should stop you is that the DeskMini while looking very attractive upfront in price, nickel and dimes you for every extra and just plain misses some features that "proper" Mainboards have. A cheap ITX Mainboard and ITX case (if you still want to stay in that size bracket) might actually cost barely more if anything and can also take normal-sized RAM which might be cheaper too depending on what you want to get. The only interesting part to tweak speedwise in such a System is the RAM because AMD APUs *love* fast RAM, and even the locked down, low cost A520 Chipsets let you do that. These are obviously not the right choices if you want to build some ridiciolous gaming system that gives you 4000 fps on Quake II or whatever the kids play these days but then you wouldn't pick such a system anyways.
 
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RAM is a lowest common denominator thing. EG if you have 2x8GB 3200mhz CL15 and 2x8GB 3200mhz CL17, then you will be able to run all stick as 4x8GB 3200mhz CL17 without issue unless you have some garbage tier motherboard that cant tolerate RAM. All the rigs I ran growing up had mixed ram without issue.

My first board had a 256MB 266mhz chi, two 1GB 400mhz chips, and a 512MB 333 mhz chip, running as a combined 2.75GB 266 mhz.

When OCing its usually better to have the same brand if you want to go for some insane timings. Personally I've never had issues. Even now I have two different sets of RAM running together to give me 32GB 4000mhz memory.

This is important. XMP is just RAM sticks loaded with a note that tells the motherboard what they can run at. They can run faster and they can run slower. Put in another set of sticks and you'll have to set it manually to lowest common denominator, but the slower set might be able to run as fast as the better sets XMP profile. That takes effort and testing though.

@AnOminous You can't really buy a graphics card for $100 (new) these days because the market is fucked. A stupid analogy would be that at $70 you get the shoe box, at $100 there's shoelaces in the box and at $150 they throw in the shoes. Going used is an option but the low end is still crazy, I was thinking of selling my old GTX 1050 a while back and took a look at what they sold for around here (closed auctions) and they went for 5-10% less than what I bought it for three years ago. Looking at NewEgg the 1030 sells for the same or more as the MSRP it was launched at three years ago. That's the bottom of the barrel.
Going up to 120-150 bucks, used or new, will get you quite a lot more than the hundo. It's the inverse of the high-end where a card is twice the price of another with a 20-30% difference, on the low-end there's a 20-30% price difference that gets you twice the performance.

Buy a mATX board(cheaper) with four slots for RAM, Gigabyte Aurous have some models and that's the brand I trust. 2x8GB is cheap and it can be expanded with another set, check the manufacturers website to see what they list as maximum memory, I think 64GB is relatively normal at least on AMD boards.

They also come with an NVME slot that stupid gamers use thinking it will make them game faster. SATA SSDs are fine for that, but if anyone wants an NVME M.2 drive that blows the absolute best SATA SSDs out of the water and is really, really cheap look at the Western Digital SN550. 1TB of storage, faster than any game can use, for a hundred bucks. It uses the crappier flash memory and it doesn't have a DRAM cache but that's balanced out by a fast SLC cache. It's a diamond in the rough.
 
So my 2012 laptop workstation is getting a bit long in the tooth, and noticeably struggles doing much 3d rendering. So I've been considering an upgrade. I've been out of the computer hardware stage for a long time so I'm kinda lost.

I'm wanting to get something that is reasonably compact but maybe not necessarily a laptop. I want to get into 3D modeling and drafting, and some newer games would be cool.

I figure a gaming configuration would work for what I want, in maybe a mini-ITX format. Is there any suggestions you guys might have?
 
Same issue here. My 2012 powerhouse of a laptop is literally held together with duct tape, and the GPU just died entirely. I'm looking for suggestions for a replacement too, but definitely a laptop. Something in the sub-$1200 range. At least a 1660Ti or a 2060 or higher, and an i7-9750H or i7-10750H.

I've been looking at the Lenovo 5i, 7i, y540, and y740, and also the Dell G7. Trying to find other laptops in the same range. Preferably aluminum body, not solid plastic. A numpad would be nice, since my current laptop has one, but I guess I could give it up if there's no alternative.
 
1. Report your thread and ask for it to be merged into the 'No Stupid Questions' thread.
2. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months until nvidia's current generation is actually available in meaningful quantities. And maybe until DDR5 memory is a thing.
3. Gaming and 3D production are at odds at the moment. You'd want a high clock rate Intel processor for gaming or a high core count AMD one for 3D. AMD is still fine for gaming, though.
A numpad would be nice, since my current laptop has one, but I guess I could give it up if there's no alternative.
You can get a USB numpad.
 
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1. Report your thread and ask for it to be merged into the 'No Stupid Questions' thread.
2. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months until nvidia's current generation is actually available in meaningful quantities. And maybe until DDR5 memory is a thing.
3. Gaming and 3D production are at odds at the moment. You'd want a high clock rate Intel processor for gaming or a high core count AMD one for 3D. AMD is still fine for gaming, though.

You can get a USB numpad.
That defeats the purpose of having a laptop.
 
i could recommend you the highest grade hardware of today but im pretty sure you dont wanna sell your kidney and liver just to afford them
 
My old computer chair is falling apart, I've looked at some "gamer" chairs and while they have good back support they don't look very durable. Does anyone know of a good chair that will last a few years with moderate use?
 
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My old computer chair is falling apart, I've looked at some "gamer" chairs and while they have good back support they don't look very durable. Does anyone know of a good chair that will last a few years with moderate use?
Get a high end office chair. As a general rule if it has "Gaming" in the product name its an overpriced piece of shit unless it comes from a reputable manufacturer in which case it'll just be overpriced and only carries a moderate chance of being shit.
 
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