Has Kiwi Farms changed any of your perspectives?

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

The only thing keeping a lot of people, including many kiwi farms users, from having lolcow threads is that they know not to share their private life with strangers online.

 

[cuddle striker]

I'm more sympathetic to trans people who have gone through with the whole process and are trying to live normal, boring lives as the gender they've become.

I am no longer sympathetic to trans people who are attention seeking and batshit about it, even though they've done nothing to approximate the gender they claim.

(this site turned me truscum)

I realized that in the years I've been online, there have been so many cows I've quietly followed for the entertainment, and that it felt a bit lonely to have nobody else to chatter about them with.

the site hasn't changed my political opinions; if anything, it's reinforced how many morons there are on both sides of all debates, and that the extreme wings will always be fucked.

A little left of center than when I started coming here. a lot of the rants and race chanting really popped my eyes open to what kind of vile crap is right under the surface of the alt right or "just conservative" crowd. horrible to see it.

I'm convinced Indiana is a free for all state for pedos and I'm horrified but not surprised, it's Pence country, after all.

 

[Lez]

It has made me more conscious of what I reveal about myself on websites and I've learned from lolcows how not to act, but otherwise, nah.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I've learned that the Internet is in fact a dangerous place. Most humans aren't emotionally ready to deal with having so much available information and/or being connected to (almost literally) every other human being in the planet. Remember that commie woman at the end of The Crystal Skull? Her vaporization is the metaphorical representation of their psyche.

 

[Recoil]

I understand the scope of leftist & communist cultural infiltration far better than I did a year ago.

Spoiler: Meta-Spergery

That said, I lurked here for a good number of years before signing up and there was always something about the 'KF attitude' that took me a while to pick up and really appreciate. The admonition of things like one word posting, double posting (sorry admins, I'm getting better) and power leveling bespeak a level of basic respect for the quality of the discussion itself that I haven't seen online since the days of usenet (or before).

I think Kiwi Farms engenders a specific style of posting that is emblematic of a certain take on life and the world. A non-egocentric pragmatism that places top value on speech and truth. The ideal KF poster is engaged in a way that can best be described as "hold on loosely, but don't let go." We endeavor to stare down the rabbit hole without falling in ourselves, and for that reason we cultivate a detached approach to close study.

KF teaches us to hold our tongues long enough to avoid compromising operational security or looking the fool. The icons we use to rate each other help reinforce that ideal attitude and approach to posting (and invariably, life) while eliminating the need to clog up threads with short replies. Take the "Autistic" rating. More than just a "Dumb" 2.0 rating, "Autistic" ratings are our way of telling each to take a step back, look at the big picture and not let our emotions corrupt our judgements or posting. "Autistic" can also be used for overthinking (i'll probably get a few for this post) or for not thinking enough and simply blurting out shitposts on a topic we know nothing about (I've had a couple of these, we all have).

KF culture seems to be about seeking a balance - between thinking too much and not at all, between unbreakable hope and nihilistic despair. The best posters here can add to any discussion - because they're principled, knowledgeable and pragmatic. We have the brash openness of the chans without the unbridled idiocy of the chans, and that's something we (l)earn. Anyone can sign up, but not anyone fits here - look at what happened after the NZ shitstorm, we had genuine white supremacists making "Howdy!" threads, completely unaware that the nature of discourse here transcends the petty normalfag dialectic of left/right absolutism.

Of course, this is all a lot to read in to things, I know, but after ~30 years online I see in KF forum culture a polished excellence that I haven't seen since the dial-up BBS days. There's a camaraderie & a heart here that can't be matched in most forums (for better or worse) and I think us Kiwis manage to keep it that way by adopting a specific approach to life and the world around us.

 

[Cheetahman]

Take the "Autistic" rating. More than just a "Dumb" 2.0 rating, "Autistic" ratings are our way of telling each to take a step back, look at the big picture and not let our emotions corrupt our judgements or posting. "Autistic" can also be used for overthinking (i'll probably get a few for this post) or for not thinking enough and simply blurting out shitposts on a topic we know nothing about (I've had a couple of these, we all have).

A major change I've felt is wanting the diverse set of ratings for everywhere else with reactions.
As a d*scordfag I sometimes react with Star-Crescents and nobody understands, or at least the ones who do, don't say anything.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

The only thing keeping a lot of people, including many kiwi farms users, from having lolcow threads is that they know not to share their private life with strangers online.

Basically you're only a cow if you make milk.

 

[SpergPatrol]

It made me learn the tell-tale signs of someone being a manipulator like Boogie2988 that in his videos he portrays himself as a patron saint trying to bring people but on social media he exposes himself showing his "good intentions," is all an act to get attention online.

 

[spurger king]

completely unaware that the nature of discourse here transcends the petty normalfag dialectic of left/right absolutism.

I feel you on that one. Since coming here, I've started judging beliefs less on their own merits, and more on the behavior of the people who subscribe to those beliefs.

 

[BeepMareep]

I learned what an awful egotistical bitch Glitched Puppet is, after watching their art for a few years. Thanks for introducing me to Kiwi Farms in your awful attempt to defend yourself from those logs that dropped, ya dumb ho.

I'm learning all kinds of stuff here. I find it fascinating, hilarious, and horrifying.

 

[JektheDumbass]

I've changed a lot of my opinions about trannies, especially regarding SRS. I believe body dysmorphia is a real thing, but having some unskilled chink turn you into a freak with a perpetual festering wound where your junk used to be literally doesn't help anyone.

I don't know if racism is the right word, but I now believe certain cultures produce shit people (Saudi culture produces rapists and terrorists, Hindi culture produces rapists and streetshitters, American nigger culture produces thieves and goons, etc). I'm not saying my culture is beyond criticism but it's not wrong to say I could've had it much worse.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I've changed a lot of my opinions about trannies, especially regarding SRS. I believe body dysmorphia is a real thing, but having some unskilled chink turn you into a freak with a perpetual festering wound where your junk used to be literally doesn't help anyone.

I don't know if racism is the right word, but I now believe certain cultures produce shit people (Saudi culture produces rapists and terrorists, Hindi culture produces rapists and streetshitters, American nigger culture produces thieves and goons, etc). I'm not saying my culture is beyond criticism but it's not wrong to say I could've had it much worse.

It's not specifically the Saudis, Hindus, or US street culture that produce them.

Islam teaches that all non-Muslims are animals, to be killed or uplifted through conversion.
Hindus are too busy trying to reach Nirvana to give a fuck about where they shit, as long as they don't touch a cow.
And nigger culture is fucked because of endemic single-parenthood, and the idolization of violence as a means to succeed.

OT - Some of my previous leanings have solidified into opinions, which is to say I don't just have a hunch about some topics, anymore - I have definite opinions on them.

 

[CindyChafe]

I wish more places were like the Farms. Everyone is too caught up in their own bullshit nowadays. People need to take themselves less seriously and chill the fuck out. Where else can you say nigger, faggot and kike without being banned?

We all know that laughing at re.tards is one of the most universal things in life. Society has a way of keeping people in line. If you break the social contract or social code, people will make fun of you. Most people can see that and will modify their behavior if it gets them laughed at. Aspergers and autism, on a basic level, are the lack of that feeling of embarrassment for committing social faux pas.

I don’t know why people are born with no self awareness but it sure makes for funny threads.

Also the recent mosque shooting in New Zealand gave me a sense of respect for Dear Leader @Null. People should be able to see these things. They aren’t comfortable to watch and frankly I’m a bit traumatized after watching it. But it was something I needed to see. The “mass media” loves to spin shit. The shooting was streamed live via fucking Facebook and now New Zealand is trying to arrest people who watched the video? It’s ridiculous. Everyone knows primary sources are very important to history. I admire Josh Moon for his Siberian sized cojones to even host this type of content. It’s unsavory content but content people need to be able to see if they want to. It’s not a crime or a stamp of approval to want to see the primary sources.

Also, I was a big fan of the band Against Me! But the lead singer Tom Gabel decided to troon out in 2015 and I wasn’t sure how I felt about it. After reading the La Zorra forum, I’m pretty sure he’s another autogynephile. I can’t really listen to their music anymore. It’s crazy that people think giving cross sexual hormones and puberty to children just because they don’t fit some sort of narrow gender stereotype. The troons really seem to think they’re doing something good but they’re literally sterilizing and mutilating themselves. It’s sick.

 

[Blini Cat]

I think that Kiwi Farms has allowed me to calm down and laugh at things more. I really like that the prevailing advice here is "lol calm down." Before I started coming to the Farms I was feeling burned out on stuff like politics, but now I feel like it's easier to laugh and enjoy the spectacle of things. I'm not sure whether this is healthy or not, but I'm enjoying it regardless. Considering the craziness of the world today, it's hard to imagine seeing it in a different way.

 

[vertexwindi]

I wish more places were like the Farms. Everyone is too caught up in their own bullshit nowadays. People need to take themselves less seriously and chill the fuck out. Where else can you say nigger, faggot and kike without being banned?

Fuck you nigger faggot. You're right.

I spend way more time on old toxic communities like NG and 4chan as a child than I should have so I suppose my perspective hasn't changed much over the years because of it. That and all the weirdos I've known helped change my outlooks too. I suppose if that's the shit you grow up with it just becomes part of who you are.

 

[Cool kitties club]

I think that Kiwi Farms has allowed me to calm down and laugh at things more. I really like that the prevailing advice here is "lol calm down." Before I started coming to the Farms I was feeling burned out on stuff like politics, but now I feel like it's easier to laugh and enjoy the spectacle of things. I'm not sure whether this is healthy or not, but I'm enjoying it regardless. Considering the craziness of the world today, it's hard to imagine seeing it in a different way.

Yeah the farms has taught me to see the humor in everything. Some people may say its overly nihilistic but I think people just get to personally involved in things like politics so it muddles their opinion. I think a little emotional detachment is healthy for introspection and stops you from going crazy.

 

[KeeweeFirms]

I found this site because its the third result in DuckDuckGo when you search for "Industrial Music Forum" (I shit you not)

I'm glad I did though. I've been having a bit of an "identity crisis" myself. I'm definitely not a fascist, or alt right, or even conservative. I used to consider myself extreme left, and felt that the American Democratic Party was just another flavor of conservative politics.

But fucking christ have things changed. I know its cliché to state, but I don't feel I've drifted much at all. The Democratic Party has become more "progressive", but I'm not sure what they are progressing towards. I was getting to the point of self doubt. Democrats were now calling me a chauvinist or a nazi (I've been a major supporter of women's rights, and I'm not gonna power level but lets just say the Nazi's would not have been very fond of my ethnicity), and everyone else was saying I advocate nanny politics and communism.

Where I drew the line was this "safe space" thing. Look, everyone deserves to feel safe; I'm a firm believer in that. But if your solution to feeling safe is to avoid the areas that aren't, you are a fucking traitor to society and the lowest form of scum on the earth. Since the dawn of time, man has fought tooth and nail for the feeling of "safety". You go out, and you fucking make the world safe. You don't hide in an echo chamber like a fucking coward.

So yeah anyway, I'm glad I found this site, because most of you seem to be rational and intelligent people. Is there some stuff on this board that I don't agree with, or think might be misguided by ignorance or prejudice? Yes, absolutely. That's the way it should be though. People are entitled to their opinion. It 's ok to be wrong about something or have an unpopular opinion without automatically being compared to hitler.

And most of all, I'm glad that when people act like a fucking moron, or have delusions, they get called out on it here and have a chance to do some introspection instead of wallowing in a reinforcing feedback loop of acceptance. No one should be "accepted" by society for being a detriment to it.

 

[Genkoda]

Learned that some people I liked on youtube tend to become hypocrites. More importantly I think it has helped me remember that not everyone that I disagree with ideologically are ill intentioned. Kiwi farms actually allows discussion without the threat of being banned or having personal attacks lodged at you(it can still happen), and so allows people to be exposed to different ideas.

Also just puts a funny twist on things and does not always take itself so seriously.

 

[Looney Troons]

Kiwi Farms has really opened my eyes to how disgusting most trans people are and the various filthy communities they belong to.

 

[KeeweeFirms]

Kiwi Farms has really opened my eyes to how disgusting most trans people are and the various filthy communities they belong to.

In all fairness I think its important to remember that correlation does not equal causation. I would argue that the attention whoring spergs that you are thinking of might not even fit the definition of transgendered. If gender is truly a psychological concept with a sociological basis and not a physical one, then a guy who gets his dick cut off for attention or acceptance or any reason other than that he's psychologically a woman, has just had a sex change. The fact that gender can't be changed is the entire reason this is an issue. You can't "decide" to change gender because its convenient. You can only change your sex, and if you are doing that in a way that is disharmonious with your gender I would argue that you do indeed have psychological issues but they are less rooted in identity and more rooted in abandonment and acceptance by society. And that a real shame, because no guy ever felt more part of mainstream society by chopping his dick off and then boasting about it on twitter. Its actually quite self destructive.

So yeah I would argue that you have problems with people who have sex changes, and that the majority of the ones who do in modern society somehow forgot that its a last resort medical intervention and not a "trendy" , "hip" thing to do.