Hasan Piker / HasanAbi - Young Turk, Twitch Streamer, Stunlocked Brogressive, Cenk's Nephew, only a socialist for the money

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If he was able to pull them up, it would've been funny watching Hasan try to either talk over the video or completely distract from what's being said in it. He pulled that shit when Ethan brought up a video of an extremist calling for Jews to be slaughtered, and Hasan of course tried to gloss over it completely by pointing out how he's addressed it on stream in the past, so there's no point in bringing up the video again for everyone to see live.
textbook DARVO defenses, deny everything, deflect, and move on as quickly as possible. The worst thing about these retards aren't their glaringly obvious flaws, it's their inability to acknowledge them in any way whatsoever.
 
Hasan's video reacting (eating) to Charlie's video:
At 49:40 we get to the "your viewers made you", Hasan says this is a bad faith argument because... Like... What do you mean?
Also says Charlie is a hypocrite because he sells sweat shop t-shirts with a logo slapped on for 40 dollars.
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Oh wait that's Hasan's shirt, here's Charlie's shirt
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Most of the video is just him slurping down food, the usual "come on, dude... Come on" before going back to slurping.
 
Either Hasan will try to answer a question and Willy will yell "you are changing the subject"
But, Hasan was changing the subject. "You're coverage about Kyiv being bombed wan't accurate", "Yeah, what do you think about Russia invading Ukraine". "Your coverage about the hospital wasn't accurate", "Yeah, do you believe Israel don't commit crimes?". The only decent point Hasan made was that he can't control what his chat says to/about Klein, but then again, we know he bans a lot of people that talk shit about him or call him out in this chat.
 
Hasan's video reacting (eating) to Charlie's video:
At 49:40 we get to the "your viewers made you", Hasan says this is a bad faith argument because... Like... What do you mean?
Also says Charlie is a hypocrite because he sells sweat shop t-shirts with a logo slapped on for 40 dollars.
Oh wait that's Hasan's shirt, here's Charlie's shirt
Most of the video is just him slurping down food, the usual "come on, dude... Come on" before going back to slurping.
You know, with how much Hasan's video is just him eating, I figure the guy should probably just advertise himself as "Nikaido Avacado for anorexics."
 
Most of the video is just him slurping down food, the usual "come on, dude... Come on" before going back to slurping.
i remember one clip of him looking down eating, listening to the news of a business owner being robbed
the news anchor is explaining how this business owner had everything taken from him
Hasan made a comment, without even looking up, about him being racist or something
the problem is, the guy was black, a black business owner
 
Hasan's video reacting (eating) to Charlie's video:
At 49:40 we get to the "your viewers made you", Hasan says this is a bad faith argument because... Like... What do you mean?
Also says Charlie is a hypocrite because he sells sweat shop t-shirts with a logo slapped on for 40 dollars.
Oh wait that's Hasan's shirt, here's Charlie's shirt
Most of the video is just him slurping down food, the usual "come on, dude... Come on" before going back to slurping.
Hell, even if the shirts cost the same, you’re clearly getting more for your money with Charlie’s.

And that’s how most of his “react” stuff is. If he’s even in the chair at all.
 
I saw on Twitter he apparently spent like an hour defending Pokimane’s calling people who didn’t want to buy her overpriced mini-cookies “broke bois” and mocking them. He’s getting pretty mocked for it.
I caught that. He even plugged his own product line during it, and that looked sketchy as hell just based on a first glance. Whole thing made me wonder if he's engaging in similar shitty practices.

Currently his entire shop is 50% off, and it simultaneously claims a portion of the proceeds go to Palestinian children. 50% off + a portion going to charity seems...odd. At the very least it's worth noting this would effectively be running many businesses at a loss.

What also stood out to me is the juxtaposition between that allegedly generous 50% discount + charity effort with how brutal and anti-consumer the company is otherwise.

Brief overview of the return policy:

-3 days to file a ticket for damaged goods starting at date of delivery or refund will be rejected
-Rather unclear wording on if there's a 3 day limit for reporting false deliveries. There shouldn't be, or this is illegal in some countries
-No cash refunds, only store credits
-You pay shipping in full
-If your return is rejected, you do not even get the product you attempted to return back

Yet allegedly, there's this highly generous 50% discount on the products.

Whole thing makes me wonder if either:

A) It's a fake discount, which is illegal in some countries.

B) Best case, an admittance that his product line is usually so horrendously overpriced that they can afford a 50% discount + putting proceeds towards a charity group and still make a profit/break even.

C) They're conveniently leaving out what proceeds go to charity because it's ridiculously small, or something shadier. There's nowhere on the website explaining what exactly allegedly goes to the charity or anything, and it's legit just a mention on the opening screen that's never expanded upon. Only possibility I missed is perhaps they spring the percent that goes to charity on you directly before a purchase, just like they do with shipping, but I doubt it.

or

D) His product line is selling so poorly that even a 50% discount is an attempt to make back whatever money they can. This seems unlikely to be the full story though because a company or product-line that has flopped has no business donating a portion of their proceeds to charity.

I can't prove anything, of course, it all just looks very unorthodox from a business perspective, to the point I think one of the above must be true.

Out of curiosity I tried to find more about the charity portion, and ended up finding this report about his campaign to donate to Palestinian causes. Just Ctrl + F for HASANABI.

Am I understanding this wrong, or does the very website he ran that charity through allege that he only donated 35k of the 50k he promised to match...? I'm uncertain because here it claims he donated 50k, but without knowledge of how the website runs things and displays info, we could be looking at anything from a separate 50k donation or the very same 50k match pledge that was never fulfilled completely.

Dude just seems like an obvious grifter to me, and I can't help but wonder if people are supporting Poki's stupid fucking cookies because they're guilty of similar practices. A shame nothing can really be proven though; it just looks like a situation where the guy has something sketchy going on with his product line, and he may have failed to fulfill his promise to match donations up to $50,000.
 
Willy put out a video to give his side of the debate:

It's a shame he didn't come better prepared by having specific clips or timestamps on-hand to share. At the very least, it's good that he stood by his video and didn't walk it back like some people do when confronted on calls or streams.
Willy is good in researched and edited content and quick one-shot replies on twitter, but he's bad at doing any of this live

Hasan is good at lying live. during stream. with a straight face, doubling down and, shifting the goalpost and demoralizing anyone that disagees with him, but he's shit at research, has the attention span of a clownfish or doing any long argument or reflection on anything.

That wasn't a fair fight. And Willy was too gullible. He entered the debate and Hasan literally asked him to give a summary of the videos Hasan got pissed about sparked this debate to begin with. Hasan was never in it to defend himself, he just want to make Willy look stupid by putting him in situations he wasn't prepared to face.

The last nail in the coffin is that, it was all on Hasan's Stream. Hasan could literally lower Willy's volume to make his "nononono, you shut up and listen to ME" louder and fake some semblance of superiority. Even if Willy was right while arguing, him not being able to voice his point makes him look weaker.

The game was rigged from the start
 
Willy is good in researched and edited content and quick one-shot replies on twitter, but he's bad at doing any of this live

Hasan is good at lying live. during stream. with a straight face, doubling down and, shifting the goalpost and demoralizing anyone that disagees with him, but he's shit at research, has the attention span of a clownfish or doing any long argument or reflection on anything.

That wasn't a fair fight. And Willy was too gullible. He entered the debate and Hasan literally asked him to give a summary of the videos Hasan got pissed about sparked this debate to begin with. Hasan was never in it to defend himself, he just want to make Willy look stupid by putting him in situations he wasn't prepared to face.

The last nail in the coffin is that, it was all on Hasan's Stream. Hasan could literally lower Willy's volume to make his "nononono, you shut up and listen to ME" louder and fake some semblance of superiority. Even if Willy was right while arguing, him not being able to voice his point makes him look weaker.

The game was rigged from the start
On top of all of that, I didn't realize until finishing the video that Willy was brought on to debate Hasan without notice. Hasan invited him to come debate on stream immediately, and Willy had to scramble without having all of his points in order. So yeah, not surprised it wasn't a fair debate from the start, but I'd still give the guy some props for not backing down.
 
There's got to be some Hebrew or Yiddish word that's like an inversion of a shabbos goy, where there's a Jew who does shit a gentile doesn't want to do or won't. Wonder if Hasan has ever said "you're one of the good ones though" to Felix.
Well we call Race Traders Uncle Todd's I think Felix would be called an uncle Shlomo
Or the noble Jew
 
All internet ‘debates’ are like this now, Willy didn’t technically “lose" against Hasan therefore he epically owned him, and vise versa. Nothing of value is added.

Willy clearly isn’t built for debates, it’s a shame because realistically he can own Hasan pretty well if he articulates his points well, but then again Hasan’s fans are too delusional and too far gone so maybe it’s not even worth it. Still, I wish he could’ve actually prepared for it.
The majority of these streamers are not worth debating anyway. They wont argue in good faith, will lie and insult, and even ban others for disagreeing.

A rich commie like Piker who's fat uncle got him a job is not going to be reasonable. So why treat him like he would?

The only winning move is to point and laugh, and hope Sam Hyde makes pajamas out of Hasan's skin.
 
I saw on Twitter he apparently spent like an hour defending Pokimane’s calling people who didn’t want to buy her overpriced mini-cookies “broke bois” and mocking them. He’s getting pretty mocked for it.
These people seem to confuse not wanting to spend X amount of money on Y product with being unable to afford it. The thought that people just don't want to spend that much on their crap doesn't enter their mind because they don't view their audience as people but just consumers.
 
I don’t know if I have to post this in a community feedback thread or whatever but

I petition to change the title of the thread to

“Hasan Piker / HasanAbi / Hamas Piker - Young Turk, Twitch Streamer, Stunlocked Brogressive, Cenk's Nephew, only a socialist for the money”
 
All internet ‘debates’ are like this now, Willy didn’t technically “lose" against Hasan therefore he epically owned him, and vise versa. Nothing of value is added.

Willy clearly isn’t built for debates, it’s a shame because realistically he can own Hasan pretty well if he articulates his points well, but then again Hasan’s fans are too delusional and too far gone so maybe it’s not even worth it. Still, I wish he could’ve actually prepared for it.


Hasan knows exactly whats hes doing, he knows willy is a youtube drama channel, so he felt confident that willy wouldnt have all the facts on hand and could bullshit his way using debate tactics to make him look retarded

hes never going to bring someone on his show whos actually got all the receipts in order to show all the dumb things hasans said,

Dylan burns literally went to ukraine and showed a bunch of ukrainians hasans coverage about how the anexation of crimea was justified etc etc, he called out hasan, hes been mentioning wanting to debate hasan for ages,

radio silence from hasan besides calling dylan a war tourist.
 
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