Disaster Hayao Miyazaki, Who Said AI Is ‘Insult to Life Itself,” Reduced to AI-Generated Meme by OpenAI

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On Tuesday, OpenAI updated ChatGPT with new AI image generation capabilities that make it especially good at recreating specific visual styles. People trying the new feature immediately flooded social media with images in the style of Studio Ghibli and Japanese animation legend Hayao Miyazaki, who famously called artificial intelligence “an insult to life itself.”
Miyazaki’s quote comes from a 2016 documentary in which he’s shown a demo of a 3D model whose movements are animated with AI as opposed to manually, by a human, as is usually the case in 3D animated videos or video games.
“Thinking of him, I can’t watch this stuff and find [it] interesting,” Miyazaki says after seeing the demo, saying it reminds him of a friend with a disability. “Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.”
ChatGPT’s new AI image generation capabilities are not substantively different from what many other AI image generators can already do. There are many AI image generation models on Civitai, for example, that are trained on Studio Ghibli movies and are good at imitating them. This is one thing generative AI is inarguably good at: copying the work of human artists, be they visual artists, musicians, or writers.
ChatGPT’s Ghibli moment is notable, however, because it’s extremely viral—even OpenAI founder Sam Altman has changed his X profile picture to a Ghiblified version of himself—and because it shows how far OpenAI, the company that started the current generative AI boom, and one that artists and publishers are currently suing for infringing on their copyrighted work, is willing to go in terms stealing from artists and content guardrails on its AI tools.
“Our goal is to give users as much creative freedom as possible,” an OpenAI spokesperson told 404 Media in an email. “We continue to prevent generations in the style of individual living artists, but we do permit broader studio styles—which people have used to generate and share some truly delightful and inspired original fan creations. We’re always learning from real world use and feedback and we’ll keep refining our policies as we go.”
Some of these “truly delightful and inspired original fan creations” allow users to use studio Ghibli’s style to recreate the assassination of JFK, an infamous example of censorship of Stalin’s image in the Soviet Union, or the moment U.S. forces captured Sadam Hussain in Iraq.
Our testing showed ChatGPT would also generate famous and graphic war photographs in the style of Ghibli movies, including “napalm girl” and “Saigon Execution.”
Previously, OpenAI was known for having very aggressive guardrails that prevented people from generating images featuring any real people, even historical figures. For example, in 2023, we reported that its AI image generation tool DALL E prevented people from generating images of Julius Caesar. The viral Ghibli images show the company’s position on this has clearly changed.
OpenAI told us that it is not blocking the model’s capability to depict adult public figures, but that they “implement the same safeguards we employ for editing images of photorealistic uploads of people. This is to enable helpful and beneficial uses in areas like education, historical, and satirical speech.”
Despite the lawsuits, outrage, and general resistance from artists, generative AI is already working its way into the workflows of many creative fields, including anime. Animation, which requires meticulous drawing of thousands and thousands of frames is famously grueling work, and some anime studios are already incorporating generative AI into their process to help with that workload. This, however, is not the same thing is the wholesale lifting of someone else’s style, and a model’s ability to copy the look of Spirited Away does not at all indicate its ability to create a work of art of that caliber.
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That’s already happened and it’s why normies are so indifferent.

Artists should have suddenly cared about art when all the ridiculous race/sexuality swaps, mountain-fisted political sermons, endless reboots, historical revisionism, and nonsensical decisions entered the scene. Instead, they happily made themselves corpo tools because corps spoke their beliefs to them, and now those same corps are gearing up to fuck them too.

Normies are watching it burn and having fun, because there’s nothing they could do to stop artists and corps destroying what they love then, and there’s nothing they can do now.
Meh. I get what you're saying, like I said, people love to imagine artists all have agency the way a big director does. But they're workers subject to the HR department just like everyone else. If you really care to assign responsibility it's to the finance people who demanded all this shit from the executives who then had their teams produce garbage.
 
Meh. I get what you're saying, like I said, people love to imagine artists all have agency the way a big director does. But they're workers subject to the HR department just like everyone else. If you really care to assign responsibility it's to the finance people who demanded all this shit from the executives who then had their teams produce garbage.
Yeah but if I’m being forced or coerced to do something, I wouldn’t spend endless time gloating about how I’m doing it. I wouldn’t join harassment campaigns to shut out, or fire people who also didn’t want to do the things corpos want. I wouldn’t help make it verboten to call out, or be against the culture destroying tide we were ushering in.
The rare times corps would tell them no about these things (like Dave Chapelle’s special) they’d black out trying to force the changes they normally get.

Let’s not pretend they were hogtied. This site alone has ample documentation of how industry creatives proudly welded power, and followed orders. They’re not getting the “just doing muh job” cope.
 
iirc that was a somewhat complicated thing
Goro was looking to get into the dad's business, Hayao knew he wasn't ready for primetime.
Studio picked Goro to direct Tales of Earthsea (based on the Ursula K Legwin novel), and sure enough Goro _wasn't_ ready for primetime
iirc at the premier the author said something to the effect of "it is a very nice movie that has little to do with my book"
but yeah Miyazaki's basically always been bitter and hated everything, iirc part of it goes with him being a marxist, like actual "I feel strongly about the proletariat" not "I want free shit". To the point that iirc in interviews he said how he was conflicted about writing Nausicaa as a princess.
He's kind of a weird dude but sometimes the chips on his shoulders make sense, like his hatred of video games because they made nausicaa into a game where you fly around shooting the bugs.
He’s just a typical oldschool Japanese liberal. He’s well-known in the West so people get all pikachu-face about his statements but Japan has a lot of those artsy types like him. It’s not surprising to end up with a few misanthropes after melting whole cities of people.
 
Maybe in the future (though doubtful). AI works by having millions of examples. You just don't have enough good works to show AI what to do to make a top class quality art as the million of mediocre art will bring it's ability down.
On top of that, they usually don't bother labelling shit and go as wide as possible to pull ressources so they end up with AI generated images being fed back to AIs that further corrupt the data.
 
This entire situation feels like an EZ mode advertisement for Open Ai now. Fuck. 10/10 even my condescending ass fell for it and engaged with it.
 
Any artist who's mentally sane will not pay some online voice actor who sounds like Glenn Quagmire $50 just to voice act some obscure inside joke that only 8 people at best might understand. People with artistic skills will not spend the little free time they have (because COMMs Open | FreePalestine | BSky in bio types thinks everybody is unemployed like them to have free time to draw) drawing and animating the Floydinator fighting against CyberChauvin while Tarzan & Jane by Toy-Box plays in the background.

I just think that AI should only be used for silly unserious shit, while original content should all be human made.
 
Images generated by machine learning is the centralization of art. By volume alone it allows a handful of companies to control culture. Putting people out of work is just a secondary benefit.
 
Images generated by machine learning is the centralization of art. By volume alone it allows a handful of companies to control culture. Putting people out of work is just a secondary benefit.

Which is why we need to keep it open with multiple options. And must do EVERYTHING in our power to prevent shit like the last admin's attempt to give itself/government king maker status via big tech control while playing along.
 
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He's right. This AI thing is pure slop for lazy people, destructive retards and people incapable of doing anything. It's why indians and twitter users like it so much.

We can't put the AI genie back in the bottle either. Buckle up for even more AI slop. People don't seem to get tired of memes. Just the current flavor of them. AI is an easy way to generate a meme. I think that we'll be seeing a lot of really unfunny try hard garbage in the future.
 
Miyazaki does good work, but as a human being, he's vastly overrated.

Hayao Miyazaki can come right out and say he supports a return of the Japanese Empire and a revival of their imperial ambition, and I honestly wouldn't care. The man fucking hates otaku in the industry he cut his teeth against alongside titans like Osamu Tezuka. He and Hideaki Anno get a pass.
 
Hayao Miyazaki can come right out and say he supports a return of the Japanese Empire and a revival of their imperial ambition, and I honestly wouldn't care. The man fucking hates otaku in the industry he cut his teeth against alongside titans like Osamu Tezuka. He and Hideaki Anno get a pass.

He hates it because he's a pretentious cunt.. Like all pretentious cunts, he's obsessed with coming off deep or artistic.. above all 'mere' entertainment. But in reality, he's in the same business as the most soulless of industry hacks.. making animated movies. He just likes to pretend his is that much more "noble" and worthy. A hack of a different sort.

He made a few pretty good movies and quite a few ok ones.. and more than one or two like his last. He isn't some kind of transcendent visionary or something. Outside of some interesting characters and art designs, his work is pretty.. heh

Sorry if it comes off harsh but i have little patience for "deep high art and artistic" pomp spergs.
 
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I wonder how much of Miyazaki's early success was due to him being a supergenius and how much was due to Americans being newly introduced to Japanese storytelling which focused less on good vs. evil conflicts and more on misunderstandings, and which sought to create a mood, focus on character interaction and pass on a moral, rather than create a thrill ride experience for hyperactive kids who can't focus on anything for more than five seconds.
 
He hates it because he's a pretentious cunt.. Like all pretentious cunts, he's obsessed with coming off deep or artistic.. above all 'mere' entertainment. But in reality, he's in the same business as the most soulless of industry hacks.. making animated movies. He just likes to pretend his is that much more "noble" and worthy. A hack of a different sort.

He made a few pretty good movies and quite a few ok ones.. and more than one or two like his last.He isn't some kind of transcendent visionary or something. Outside of some interesting characters and art designs, his work is pretty.. heh

Sorry if it comes off harsh but i have little patience for "deep high art and artistic" pomp spergs.

I don't consider it that deep. Miyazaki was among the first in a generation of artists who made their claim to fame in a medium that was groundbreaking for its time. Miyazaki got older, still kept making movies, but he notices that this industry he cut his chops against is slowly becoming more and more self-referential with time. Then a new generation of directors, artists, writers, and so on firmly establish themselves and they continue that trend of self-reference while also turning anime as a medium into something meant squarely for otaku. He hates that, and thinks that the otaku within the industry need to touch grass and stop being colossal creeps. His cries fall upon deaf ears, as more and more anime being released caters to the degenerate demographic.

He certainly ain't no Akira Kurosawa, but he's a veteran of the Japanese animation industry nonetheless, and he watched that transition happen over decades while growing more and more bitter with time. Miyazaki never outright said "anime was a mistake, it's nothing but trash" but his feelings on the matter were pretty damn close. I think that's why he and Hideaki Anno developed such a close friendship, since they're both bitterly disillusioned about the state of anime in $current_year.

I wonder how much of Miyazaki's early success was due to him being a supergenius and how much was due to Americans being newly introduced to Japanese storytelling which focused less on good vs. evil conflicts and more on misunderstandings, and which sought to create a mood, focus on character interaction and pass on a moral, rather than create a thrill ride experience for hyperactive kids who can't focus on anything for more than five seconds.

Ghibli was already relatively successful in Japan for their movies to warrant export overseas. Yeah, this was around the same time that ultra-edgy GAR stuff like Ninja Scroll, Violence Jack, Genocyber, MD Geist, and so on were getting dubbed by Central Park Media, but we also had players like Saban dubbing Akira and Manga Entertainment dubbing Ghost in the Shell (1995). Ghibli wasn't a blockbuster, but their movies were large enough for distributors to think it worth the time, effort, and money to license, dub, and publish. Apocryphal story, but Miyazaki refused to cut Princess Mononoke from slightly over 2 hours to 90 minutes at the behest of Harvey Weinstein when Miramax licensed the movie; Weinstein wasn't able to browbeat him into submission, the movie was released at its full length with no cuts, and now Weinstein's in prison. Maybe if Miyazaki was a smaller, no-name film director then Weinstein would've gotten his way.
 
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