Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Quite fitting that a show about Hell has people working on it have fucked up histories.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I understand what people here mean by a thread getting featured making it turn to shit asap now. Almost 1/6th of the pages on this thread (thats been pretty active for years) are from the past 4 days...

I feel for you. I'm not really a fan of people who have no knowledge or interest in something suddenly weighing in just because it's popular.

Angel is obviously just more of her personal fujoshi fuel tho, especially since he's not an isolated case but you also have shit like Blitzo/Stolas (starts of very rapey), Moxxie/Chaz (Chaz exists basically only to sexually harass moxxie) and Fizzarolli & Mammon (making sexbots out of him n stuff against his will) in her other show...

Angel, Blitzo and Chaz all share the same trait of being a borderline offensive parody of a gay guy. I can already tell that Angel is going to massively fuck up the show with the constant sex jokes if Viv and the other writers don't try to rein him in.

And I still love that the very main character of the show was created ages after everyone else, most likely just as an aftertought to get some semblance of plot for her hell show and to give Vaggie something to do after making her husband gay

A plot that doesn't make sense anymore now that it's been established that Heaven is just as bad as Hell and the only reason they send exterminators is because they're petty fucks. I hope the show is good, I really do but man they need to fucking work on this shit

 

[Seafarer]

Rape victims do not masturbate to rape fetish material to """cope""" with their trauma

Even if this is a thing, wouldn’t it be equivalent to child abuse victims watching cp?

 

[Hangula Hungui]

The only way Vivziepop can get away unscathed with the whole Angel Dust rape thing is that Angel Dust is doing a dance and song number and keeps getting flashbacks to his abuse. And then was like I don't want to be sexualized anymore. Then goes to therapy or something.

No, that would just make them even more mad. Because that's the healthy thing to do (getting professional help).

This was talked about before but Angel Dust was a cope character Vivzie made when she was in an abusive relationship right? I mean originally he was in a relationship with Vaggie but now he’s gay? Really makes you think what was going on inside Vivzie’s thought process with the creation, shift, and now final product that is Angel Dust.

Ironic, her cope is now the source of seething.

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Watch Vivie go in circles to explain that one.
It's either "I was hacked" or "no you don't understand, it's a coping mechanism for me and my past sexual trauma, I can't go to therapy, I need those videos showing abuse".
Personally, I think it's the latter.

 

[Shidoen]

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Tumblrite don’t fail to disappoint. Well except their parents.

 

[Molag Bal]

>basic premise is 2 cartoons set in hell
>a place of punishment filled with murderers and rapists
>people are still in moral outrage because the druggies, killers and rapists are being meanie-weanies to each other in hell
This is every bit as gay as all the characters in her shows.

At least with all her twitter spergery and all the other ridiculous stuff that came out over the years, I finally understand how Vivzie manages to attract hate followings like she does. Along with having her porn history publicly accessible with profiles tied to her viv pseudonym. I assumed her obsession with gay men was part of a deliberate strategy to get amazon or someone of similar scope to air her show, but I guess she actually is just a die-hard fujo who can't stop blending her work with her coom material.

It would have been easier for Viv just to tell her detractors; "The show takes place in hell for fucks sake. Grow up." However, she just keeps digging herself into a deeper hole which in turn lead to people finding out that she treats her animators like shit and finding out her closet full of fetishes. All of this could have been avoided if she had a tard wrangler.

That is 1-1 exactly what I would have suggested doing and thought she would go for initially.
>These characters are raping and killing each other!
>Yes and?
>The stuff they're doing is immoral!
>If they were virtuous people, they'd be in heaven.

It's really weird how every sexual fetish under the sun gets admonished constantly and ruthlessly except this one which somehow has defenders.

Because the rape fetishists are women. So long as women and womanhood receive veneration and worship, rape as a fetish shall remain protected from criticism.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I'm sorry I cannot get over the fact that he paid 50,000 dollars to make a coom fantasy that lasts 3 minutes. I know animation is expensive but holy hell.

Maybe he had to pay so much because no artist would agree to make something like this for anything less?

Sometimes when someone wants to commission something you don’t want to do you give them an insane number and they still agree to it.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

As luck would have it, there happens to be some YouTube Poop in the playlist:

So at least it's good to know Vivzie had good taste. Had.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

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NOW WAIT A MINUTE, VIVZIE NOOOOO!!!

This just confirms me that the more we keep digging in this stuff, the more sick and twisted shit we found on her.

Maybe I should start with the draft on her thread already, this is just too much. I can't wrap my head on someone having a fetish on rape.

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

I just pray that Bobby McFerrin continues to move through this life unscathed. Please God!

 

[Tinnitus]

A plot that doesn't make sense anymore now that it's been established that Heaven is just as bad as Hell and the only reason they send exterminators is because they're petty fucks. I hope the show is good, I really do but man they need to fucking work on this shit

Heaven sending in Dale Gribble because the demons stopped torturing the sinners.

It would've been quite a dilemma if Charlie had to choose between torturing every sinner based on the degree of their sins or letting them run wild until that time of the year comes up.

But focusing on fujoshit appears more important for some reason.

 

[passionpoop]

>has a fetish

Interesting weasel wording there.

It's really weird how every sexual fetish under the sun gets admonished constantly and ruthlessly except this one which somehow has defenders.

Not really weasel wording, we're talking about rape. I figured there were context clues for it dude. Anyway every sexual fetish is panned by somebody somewhere, rape is literally being admonished right in this very thread so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just saying somewhere, there's probably some rape victim jacking it to rape porn and that's really not such a big deal. There are whole communities dedicated to it.

 

[Soft Boiled Egg]

Edit: Oh yeah, beyond that, I blame Pendleton Ward

I felt like such an idiot when I found out he was just as shitty as the rest of them, and heard all the stories about - iirc - him even refusing to look at or speak to people working under him when he found out they hadn't graduated from the same shitty nepo art school as him. Adventure Time is such a great show and can thankfully exist on its own in my mind regardless of his influence over it, but him being a fucking dickhead has definitely soured it at least a little bit for me. it must have been awful working under him and having him treat you like something nasty he'd stepped in.

 

[sallowhal]

I'm just saying somewhere, there's probably some rape victim jacking it to rape porn and that's really not such a big deal. There are whole communities dedicated to it.

i wonder what the break down is like in those communities. how many are actually rape victims, and how many are just freaks who use that as an excuse to shield their disgusting fetish? 10/90, 20/80? the pooner viv was originally covering for came out and admitted she was never assaulted, just gets horny for rape.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

I looked through the videos uploaded on the channel, and well...

Left: 2010
Right: 2023

 

[Haramburger]

>Vivziepop is being exposed as a shit boss

Industry norm at this point. You have to be a fucking moron to go into animation, for someone else, and think you'll be paid or treated fairly for your time. And even the people that go out and make a name for themselves, Justin Roiland, Arin Hanson, Stamper, they all just turn into complete spergs whether they're successful or not. I think psychicpebbles/Zach is probably the most sane out of any animation creator and he still gaslights his friends to the point of absurdity on camera for laughs.

I dunno, I can't be mad at Vivziepop for having spreadsheets of not paying people a living wage in 2023/24, virtually no one can. I appreciate she wrangled enough tards into making her vision a reality and producing a bunch of degenerate fapbait that even more retards come out of the woodwork to screech and cum to. The big exposé twitterposts have a tone that disgust me and make me side with Viv. Kill yourselves on the altar of X you coombrained spiderfurry orbiters, and make a spectacle of it for my amusement.

 

[ASeabear8952]

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She always had a fucked up mind, but this is a whole new level! Her career is fucked LMAO. I’m predicting it now. She’s gonna get the Justin Roiland treatment where she’ll get kicked off Hazbin season two and Helluva Boss (if the latter can even continue without her).

This chick needs a thread.

 

[cia-log]

That being said, at least with women it is actually fairly common for them to turn into hypersexual weirdos after (sexual) trauma. I mean, just look at almost every single BPD bitch in existence.

I'm kind of surprised people in this thread don't seem to know that. Paraphilias are a common coping mechanism for sexual trauma, and it's not really any wonder that someone who experiences abuse early on develops a fractured and unhealthy relationship with their own sexuality.

 

[Aqua Panda]

The insane thing is that she was on the cusp of real Hollywood money in a few days if the show premiere had gone well.

Speed running Amazon/A24 dropping funding was not on my bingo list but she's going for it.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Is there anyone in the Western animation industry more truly deserving of the fanbase they have than Vivziepop? The very people that Vivziepop tries to pander to so often are the ones that harangue and harass her the most. It's poetry, in a sense.