Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Even if Brock was okay with the whole ordeal it still seems incredibly slimy and underhanded, especially when not that many people are even talking about the allegations leveled at Brock.

As much as I like Vivzie’s cartoons, the more I find out about her as a person the more I end up disliking her.

Yeah she should have stuck up for him considering just how shit the allegations were, but we all know how these groups that follow this creed operate people must be sacrificed in order to maintain purity.
 
I think it might have ended up being a joint decision that they both made because they have seen the absolute insanity of the people who hound these shows, there are some legitimate nutcases targeting them for some reason.
If they didn't give a fuck about these nutcases before, why would they suddenly decide to part ways business-wise because of them? I have seen enough to say that she is a woke careerist who can't even get the priorities of her shows straight. Brock's retirement from the project sure didn't happen solely because of lunatics with hote-boners.
 
So some of Vivzie's liked tweets showed up on my TL.

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She's a supporter of getting the new Ren and Stimpy cancelled because of the background of the creator, which is pretty ironic given the people who've worked on Hazbin that got outed as sex pests recently.

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She's still faving Brock Baker's tweets.

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I don't even like Ben that much but you'd think a chick that's been the victim of gaslighting and lying by other people for 2 years now would be able to figure out a tweet is badly faked when she sees it.
At first glance, Viv supporting the cancellation of the reboot (which is easily the most pants on head retarded hill animators chose to die on) is not only hypocritical but makes no sense. Vivzie is an indie animator, so the mainstream industry wouldn’t be as big as a concern for her.

But as google shows, Viv has worked closely with a guy named Nico Colaleo, a big animation lolcow and someone with direct ties to John K himself. With that in mind, her being against the R&S reboot makes slightly more sense.
 
https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1297716165834190849?s=20

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Her hyping up HB so much makes me think we might be getting Episode 2 soon.
 
I don't know why you would think that? it got greenlit so I think its just her excitement working on it in the studio or writing or whatever. Seems odd to release another free episode when its going to be streamed.
Hazbin is going to be streamed. Helluva Boss is going to stay as a YouTube exclusive web show.
 

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I think I remember her saying something before that there a lot more of HB completed than HH, since HB is just a short side story. So I can easily believe episodes of it will come out faster.

Yeah I think they have season 1s story plotted out and have done scratch audio and sketches for some scenes which was shown on one of the hunicast streams, so they seem to be rocketing along on HB I assume the full animation is going to be the most time consuming aspect of it.
 
I know people in this thread have taken an interest in Faustisse so I thought I’d post this. Her and Vivzie are still friends with Faust only leaving for professional reasons.

https://twitter.com/Faustisse/status/1292949162238124039?s=20


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Of course they are still friends. Her friendo supporting disgusting and amoral SJW shit (and being a cancerous lump overall for that matter) ain't gonna damage all that sweet sweet cash coupled with millions of re-tards in the fanbase.

Vivzie sez: "Be a nice and good person! Unless you're my friend, fit in my views and can't affect my career, then you don't need to!"
 
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Holy shit I found a new video about Hazbin. This is immensely fucked up.
Could she become TheToyTaker 2.0?

I know people in this thread have taken an interest in Faustisse so I thought I’d post this. Her and Vivzie are still friends with Faust only leaving for professional reasons.

https://twitter.com/Faustisse/status/1292949162238124039?s=20


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But back on Viv herself, her hypocrisy ultimately boils down on how much suffering goes behind the scenes of her shows, back when John K was working with Ren and Stimpy: he overworked his voice actors so much so that he thought he could potentially give one a heart attack, had several breakdowns and tantrums, much more and yeah the usual sex stuff. We don't know for sure how much harm the Hazbin Crew is doing so we can't just jump to conclusions yet. Furthermore with many Hazbin Criticals (friendly reminder that HH critical is nothing more than a smear campaign with eerily similar vibes to the original Jorieldraws-led cancellers) developing insane hateboners for Brock and weaponizing him against Viv, I would have to agree with @Racist Trash on that.

Ultimately, Viv isn't that interesting, and unless she majorly fucks up, gets far worse than before or goes completely SJW thanks to all these BLM-ACAB garbage I doubt she's worthy of a mention and is more of just some cartoon creator with a hilarious and utterly insane hatedom similarly to the likes of Pewdiepie. I don't see much funny in Viv, and she is less of a lulzcow and much more of a ragecow (she makes people angry instead of amused most of the time). I have taken an interest in Faust however and with the amount of people calling her out for commissions and stuff, I think there may be more to her that what lies above the surface. Faust's tweets are shit and her likes are SJW as fuck.
 
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But back on Viv herself, her hypocrisy ultimately boils down on how much suffering goes behind the scenes of her shows, back when John K was working with Ren and Stimpy: he overworked his voice actors so much so that he thought he could potentially give one a heart attack, had several breakdowns and tantrums, much more and yeah the usual sex stuff. We don't know for sure how much harm the Hazbin Crew is doing so we can't just jump to conclusions yet. Furthermore with many Hazbin Criticals (friendly reminder that HH critical is nothing more than a smear campaign with eerily similar vibes to the original Jorieldraws-led cancellers) developing insane hateboners for Brock and weaponizing him against Viv, I would have to agree with @Racist Trash on that.
I've said this before but even with how must I'm not exactly a fan of Vivzie as a person (at least in the context of some shit she's personally said and done), if she treats her employees working on the show fine and it doesn't effect the quality of the final product then it's not that big of a deal. I'd even go as far to say that this is the case with Faustisse and her work/art.
 
Holy shit I found a new video about Hazbin. This is immensely fucked up.
Could she become TheToyTaker 2.0?


But back on Viv herself, her hypocrisy ultimately boils down on how much suffering goes behind the scenes of her shows, back when John K was working with Ren and Stimpy: he overworked his voice actors so much so that he thought he could potentially give one a heart attack, had several breakdowns and tantrums, much more and yeah the usual sex stuff. We don't know for sure how much harm the Hazbin Crew is doing so we can't just jump to conclusions yet. Furthermore with many Hazbin Criticals (friendly reminder that HH critical is nothing more than a smear campaign with eerily similar vibes to the original Jorieldraws-led cancellers) developing insane hateboners for Brock and weaponizing him against Viv, I would have to agree with @Racist Trash on that.

Ultimately, Viv isn't that interesting, and unless she majorly fucks up, gets far worse than before or goes completely SJW thanks to all these BLM-ACAB garbage I doubt she's worthy of a mention and is more of just some cartoon creator with a hilarious and utterly insane hatedom similarly to the likes of Pewdiepie. I don't see much funny in Viv, and she is less of a lulzcow and much more of a ragecow (she makes people angry instead of amused most of the time). I have taken an interest in Faust however and with the amount of people calling her out for commissions and stuff, I think there may be more to her that what lies above the surface. Faust's tweets are shit and her likes are SJW as fuck.
I completely agree with the John K part, but not with the rest. @samuraicrack said it right, if you go forward with your goals no matter the hatedom that hates you to pieces, signing off a voice actor because of allegations she herself doesn't believe in, sounds really fucking ignorant and stupid. And as said before, it may not even be because of hatedom at all. Vivienne is nothing to write home about, but her hypocritical bullshit, slimy moves and occasssional SJW-ism deserve to be shined a light on.

I know fuckall about Rittenhouse's views, but is this dumb bitch even checking anything outside of Shitter's vacuum ball? The kid was about to get torn apart, almost got burned and was close to his brains becoming a concrete decoration. Even if those cops were indeed hypocrites (something I personally highly doubt), it doesn't cancel the rest. Also, wasn't he paid to protect a building or something?

Honestly, the more I see, the more I think that Viv and her friends may be the types of scumbags who think that Cannon Hinnant is not worth sympathy, because he is white or could have apparently provoke Sessoms into shooting him somehow. Speaking, there is nothing about Hinnant in her tweets and likes, nothing at all.
 
Holy shit I found a new video about Hazbin. This is immensely fucked up.
Could she become TheToyTaker 2.0?


But back on Viv herself, her hypocrisy ultimately boils down on how much suffering goes behind the scenes of her shows, back when John K was working with Ren and Stimpy: he overworked his voice actors so much so that he thought he could potentially give one a heart attack, had several breakdowns and tantrums, much more and yeah the usual sex stuff. We don't know for sure how much harm the Hazbin Crew is doing so we can't just jump to conclusions yet. Furthermore with many Hazbin Criticals (friendly reminder that HH critical is nothing more than a smear campaign with eerily similar vibes to the original Jorieldraws-led cancellers) developing insane hateboners for Brock and weaponizing him against Viv, I would have to agree with @Racist Trash on that.

Ultimately, Viv isn't that interesting, and unless she majorly fucks up, gets far worse than before or goes completely SJW thanks to all these BLM-ACAB garbage I doubt she's worthy of a mention and is more of just some cartoon creator with a hilarious and utterly insane hatedom similarly to the likes of Pewdiepie. I don't see much funny in Viv, and she is less of a lulzcow and much more of a ragecow (she makes people angry instead of amused most of the time). I have taken an interest in Faust however and with the amount of people calling her out for commissions and stuff, I think there may be more to her that what lies above the surface. Faust's tweets are shit and her likes are SJW as fuck.
I have to agree with the assessment; it’s less in defense of Viv and more how the rest of the industry operates. Basically, most of the other animators have the same opinions, have occasionally acted similarly and retweet the same shit (almost to hive mind levels), making Viv less special in comparison. It’s the same reason Rebecca Sugar never got her own thread; you might as well make a thread for Western animators in general since it’s all the same.

Meanwhile, the butthurt and rage caused by HH’s existence is much more noticeable due to the sheer intensity and how quick it started. It took three seasons for SU Critical to spring up, it took HH Critical a single pilot.

I've said this before but even with how must I'm not exactly a fan of Vivzie as a person (at least in the context of some shit she's personally said and done), if she treats her employees working on the show fine and it doesn't effect the quality of the final product then it's not that big of a deal. I'd even go as far to say that this is the case with Faustisse and her work/art.
This puts her on the same boat as Alex Hirsch in my book; I like the body of work so far and they seem to treat their employees well but it’s really hard to like them as people, with Twitter seeming to bring out the worst in them. That being said, she doesn’t have as much as an ego as Hirsch and she treats her fans better so she’s slightly more tolerable than Alex.
 
Hazbin hotel could be a very successful series. But given they released one episode then stopped almost completely. Once episode 2 releases noone will care.

Helluva boss was really good however.

There's a reason independent cartoons tend to stay online, because it takes forever to get a spot on television. Atleast I think that was the goal.
 
Hazbin hotel could be a very successful series. But given they released one episode then stopped almost completely. Once episode 2 releases noone will care.

Helluva boss was really good however.

There's a reason independent cartoons tend to stay online, because it takes forever to get a spot on television. Atleast I think that was the goal.
I mean...its already been greenlit to be made into a series by a major production house. You won't be getting an episode 2, but the whole series likely on Netflix.
 
If he has been then that would be even worse lol.

You know, you'd think after having like 3 different people who've worked on Hazbin/Helluva get outed as sex pests in the past couple of months, the anti-HH crowd would be using THAT to prove that Vivzie is a terrible person, but instead they use gay shit like voodoo symbols in the background and Angel Dust making a lot of jokes about packing fudge.
I understand that you are trying to pull the "lefty / callout culture are serectly hiding something when they are passionately trying to criticize something for wrong doing" card

But, uh, someone head has been in the gutter for awhile? Because the anti-HH crowd has been doing that shit for awhile now

Don't remember the specific, but the whole "Izzy drew porn of some underage characters" wasn't a huge talking point for them?
 
Hazbin hotel could be a very successful series. But given they released one episode then stopped almost completely. Once episode 2 releases noone will care.

Helluva boss was really good however.

There's a reason independent cartoons tend to stay online, because it takes forever to get a spot on television. Atleast I think that was the goal.
It has a really successful start. Pilot alone has nearly 50 million views. As @Chilson said, it has already been picked up. It's all only a beginning.

Something to be actually concerned about are contents of the shows, both HH and HB, especially HH. Anything can be expected, from idiotic morals and decisions along with the pandering to the wrong types in the fanbase (like fucktarded charlastor shippers), to shoehornage of Vivienne's eye-gouging views on politics and society. As some say, a spoon of tar is enough to destroy all the honey in the barrel, though depending on what tar it would be, Vivzie may still come out safe and sound, unfortunately. Her fanbase is full of dumbass schmucks after all.

One thing I know for sure, if there will be a dumpster fire akin to TLOU2's, I will be watching it with a big bucket of popcorn.
 
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