Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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After looking at the fan wiki, it turns out Kesha was not Beelzebub's singing voice. This then begs the question why have her voice the character if she would not also be singing?
Because Vivzie is a Kesha fangirl and just wanted her on. Also I imagine getting her to sing probably would've been too expensive
 
After looking at the fan wiki, it turns out Kesha was not Beelzebub's singing voice. This then begs the question why have her voice the character if she would not also be singing?
I knew that once the episode came out, the ending credit is her singing double. The only reason why she didn't sing is because her manager was putting her voice on hold for monetary and or lawsuit reasons. Kesha was only there because Viv has a fetish for her
 
Because Vivzie is a Kesha fangirl and just wanted her on. Also I imagine getting her to sing probably would've been too expensive
Usually when music artist celebrity voice cameos happen in shows it's almost always has them doing a song number. This is fucking retarded levels of underhanded rug pulling lmao.

This is kinda like if in nightmare before christmas danny elfman was the one doing the talking bits with the guy that sounded like him doing the acting, instead of the other way around like it was in the movie. The video game they made as a 'sequel" had the talkng guy for jack doing the singing AND acting though and he as expected sounded basically identical to danny elfman save for some small bits. Kinda wild how close those guys are voice wise.
 
They're supposed to be based off aspects of a circus? All I see when looking at Beelzebub is someone trying to fuse a dog and a bee together and make it furry bait.
Yep. Beezlebub is supposed to be an animal tamer (which is only really conveyed in her trial outfit), Lucifer is the ringleader, Mammon is a clown, Leviathan is likely supposed to be conjoined twins/freak show, Satan is the Strongman, Ozzie is a firebreather, Belphagor is probably a fortune teller. Again, some of the designs could have conveyed these aspects better, ESPECIALLY Bee’s. Which reminds me, Vivzie said that her ears are supposed to resemble beehives? Which I GUESS I can see if I squint.
 
Yep. Beezlebub is supposed to be an animal tamer (which is only really conveyed in her trial outfit), Lucifer is the ringleader, Mammon is a clown, Leviathan is likely supposed to be conjoined twins/freak show, Satan is the Strongman, Ozzie is a firebreather, Belphagor is probably a fortune teller. Again, some of the designs could have conveyed these aspects better, ESPECIALLY Bee’s. Which reminds me, Vivzie said that her ears are supposed to resemble beehives? Which I GUESS I can see if I squint.
This something threw me off, you'd think with Lucifer being a ringleader, his own home would be more like a crazy carnvial/circus with deadly rides for sinners and so forth. Yet, seems hes just chillin in a mansion.
 
They're supposed to be based off aspects of a circus? All I see when looking at Beelzebub is someone trying to fuse a dog and a bee together and make it furry bait.
Something I forgot to mention until now, the idea of the seven deadly sins designed to be more circus focused is dumb, my issue is I can't take them seriously when they look really stupid, one of my homies would give Lucifer a pass, if the reason why he looked stupid and short, is to make fun of angels on how they dress.

Also for something else.
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If this thread has proven anything it's that Vivziepop's shows are incredibly deep. Once you think you've found everything wrong with them, a new problem appears. Hence my belief that this thread will flourish for many years.
It's strange.
Even fans here are pointing all the fallencies the show has.

And another question: is the only fucking promotional poster Hazbin Hotel has ever? I always see the same when some media mentions Vivzie or the show itself.
 
Hell as a circus? What an original idea...that was done by Terrence Zdunich and Darren Lynn Bousman in 2012's The Devil's Carnival.

Souls in Hell getting into Heaven? Wow, original! ...and also done in The Devil's Carnival.

Vivzie would have been about 20 in 2012, right? I suspect she may have been inspired by something.
(This post was inspired by me having "Grace For Sale" in my head for no damn reason today.)
 
I just want one straight male character in one of Viv's shows.
I would say most of the males in Zoophobia....
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Except Alanzo's so fruity that Jackie might as well be his beard.....
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Zill is a rejected Sonic OC....
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Jack's entire personality is "SAD BOI, UWU"....
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And Spam is "LOL SO RANDUM". Speaking of Zoophobia......
Why talk about what the show is actually named off of? Cameron's ZOOPHOBIA.. NO NO gotta stuff in all her busy furries. She's a guidance counselor, she can just add the fucking furries le epic sad backstory when she I don't know councled them? And that she can explore the world and get over her fear and even participate with the side characters fights (her alien thingy and Damien) even have her have abilities as a human that the other characters don't have to make her different and special in this world. But no ADHD goon brain gotta chase the dopamine then cry on Twitter.
^I've been saying this shit for years, but I want to draw special attention to this part:
she can just add the fucking furries le epic sad backstory when she I don't know councled them?
THIS. RIGHT THE FUCK HERE. The reason why Zoophobia pisses me off so goddamn much, all these years later, is because Vivienne, on some subconscious level, KNEW THIS. How do I know?
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Because Chapter 4 is a counselling session between Cameron and Jack. And, surprise, surprise, aside from Chapter 1, IT'S THE BEST CHAPTER OF THE ENTIRE GODDAMN COMIC.
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We get a bit of both Jack and Zill's backstory, thus getting a glimpse into the world of Safe Haven....
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Cameron's inquiries/reactions provide a nice bit of comedy.......
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And we even get a nice little moment at the end interspersing between Cameron and Jack, both reflecting on how the session was mutually beneficial for the both of them. You can imagine how Teen Vyse reacted to this:
Teen Vyse said:
Oh my god, YES! YES! After two chapters of mostly irrelevant filler, we finally get what we signed up for! Now for counselling sessions with the other 4 students (Zill, Kayla, Spam, and Vanex) so the story can begin in earnest!
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Teen Vyse said:
Wait, who the fuck is this guy? Well, no matter, once he gets to school, someone will refer him to Cameron and we'll get another counselling session, right?
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Teen Vyse said:
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Teen Vyse said:
Oh, I see, it's a red herring! Clever Viv, clever. Mackenzie (who was briefly introduced in Chapter 2) will get referred to Cameron and then SHE will have the counselling session with her, and even better, she's also a human, so she and Cameron will have something in commo -
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Teen Vyse said:
:| .....we're not seeing Cameron in this chapter at all are we?
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[COMIC ABRUTPLY ENDS]

And that, fellow Kiwis, was one of the most profound feelings of disappointment your dear narrator ever felt. Only solace is that soon, plenty of people would go through the same cycle of hope and disappointment with HH and HB
 
THEY DROPPED OFFICIAL BODY PILLOW COVERS ON SHARKROBOT!!! THE FANDOM IS FORVER COOKED FOR THIS SHIT!!!
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I’ve complained in the past about Viv’s merch being mostly distastefully edgy and/or too horny, though I keep seeing more slick and better polished designs than before, but I guess it also depends on what deviations are particular people into. Some of those T-shirt prints look dorky enough for me to wear at a geeky meetup - Mexican birdfaggot looks like he’s posing for a Sega title.

I get this feeling that I might be overthinking the idea of putting cartoon characters in suggestive imagery, like picturing Helluva Boss folks as erotic pole-dancers, but again, this is Helluva Boss fandom we’re talking about.

Fizz looks disturbingly unsettled on that daki and it feels creepier than the fact that even fat pig Emberlynn got herself some merch.
 
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