Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[graywolf88]

It was lost media for a short while when it started.

I found a link to that specific episode for anyone who's interested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10Xcokkkc52SVRFmf85GeyJBL_EqhFisR/view?usp=sharing

 

[cremechocolate]

Just remember that if you see any combination of ‍and/or a hammer and sickle, you’re gonna see a bad fuckin take.
…I have no idea what KF did to the trans flag emoji I put there.

You forgot

 

[Niggerphobe]

Holy Strawman Batman
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Call it he’s either a retard or desperate for women/updoots

 

[Slav Power]

I’ve also seen the argument that you can’t even blame the guy that hard for freaking out when he sees Loona’s hellhound form. Because to us she’s just some cute furbait, but in the context of this universe he just saw a girl turn into a werewolf from Hell. That would be horrifying to…most people.

That's supposed to be horrifying? Please, that's still wife material, maybe even more than the Vivzieslop Loona.

Now, this?

This is horrifying. Sure, smile.dog-esque edits are cliche but they're a classic for a reason.

Oh shit new writer and it's an Oneyplays guy

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Given Cusack voices Mammon and Viv got Lyle, how long till Viv gets Zach Hadel on the show

Anyway the short was pretty funny

Alternative ending if it were Cory De La Minguez:

Spoiler: NSFW: you know why

Spoiler: there is no excape

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

And the reason so many LGBT people aren't religious is because they want to rebel against it and would clap like seals against any criticism of it, hence why so many of the LGBT crowds into Hazbin and the sister show. Not to mention the lot of them are very much into demon-related things and would gladly talk about going to Hell over Heaven any day. So in the end, they're intentionally proving the Christians right by playing along that one slogan the many of them like to say, "Gays go to hell."

They think it's a gotcha but all it's doing is making lots of people get annoyed at medias bashing on Christianity because it's not only the easiest religion to mock, but the religion you can freely mock without any repercussion. Ironically, it ended up turning the once athiest or questioning religious because of all of things that, once again, the Christians rambled about ended up being true on a lot of levels (the whole 2020s should be the underlying example of this).

So in the end, all Vivzie has done was prove the Christians right while wearing a smug face pretending she's in the early 2000s being subversive. It does not help the things we see IN the show is not a critique of how religion is seen by the LGBT whatsoever. Vivziepop deliberately did all of this. She wanted to be a Hot Topic. She wanted the show to be adult while being as safe edgy as possible. There is no "2deep4me" message. Vivziepop just wanted horny gay demons doing horny gay demons with some half baked angst in between and she got millions off it. That's it.

Very well put - it's rebellion, pure and simple.

I see nothing negative with this. It proves Christianity is resistant to constant bashing, and yet manages to stay relevant.

But don't DARE do it for any other religion, especially Islam.

Much less Judaism. Do you WANT to be sued to oblivion and visit infinity Holocaust museums to apologise?

Your tweet is a commentary on objectively bad takes that is considered in the online theory known as "Dead Internet Theory" thus providing no actual conversation to the topic at hand is considered media illiteracy in its purest form o algo.

I know you're only mad about the criticism because the people who redesign and criticise the show actually goves you points you dont listen to, but go to Viv for it instead so you can hear it. I have seen tons of retards in this fandom get mad about it for any other fandoms.

Your retardation is showing.

More like "Dead (brained) Internet (users) Theory."

 

[GoodWinSon]

To be honest, not like they had proper control of their own shit. The Lueftwaffe and Kriegsmarine would butt heads over who should be getting funding for their Wunderwaffle projects (going to pretty much stealing building resources from each other), Goering having his own personal PMC (yes really) that hed happily whore out for extra money or items of luxury, the numerous "only exist on paper" SS divisions that were being funded and supplied, with said supplies horded by the commanders or sold off to other divisions.

Here's a funny story. The Luftwaffe was notoriously bad at signal encryption. The Heer and Kriegsmarine had Enigma ciphers that were never broken by the Allies. The Luftwaffe had all of theirs broken. If I remember correctly, there was one incident when an operator used old codes on a brand new enigma cipher and it was broken almost instantly by the Germans.

Germans also tended to blab a lot about their jobs after work, making them easy fodder for spies.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Saw a bit of coping over Vivzie having a suspicious amount of gay people in Hell.
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Hello, class. I'm Professor Ultraman Orb Dark Noir Black Schwartz, and today, we're going to talk about moving the goalposts.

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See, this person dodged the argument by claiming faith in a higher power is what gets you into heaven, unintentionally implying that Nazis have gotten into Heaven in this universe.

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Likewise, this person seems to assume that Hell being full of LGBTQ people was intentional, despite it never being referenced. Also, Charlie's goal is to rehabilitate sinners, and she never believes homosexuality is a sin, given she's dating a girl herself.

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Again, dodging the question. Nobody ever denied that people like Alastor belonged in Hell. The original post asked why there seems to be more LGBTQ people in Hell (who are also depicted as tragic victims) than actual bigots or fascists.

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This is an instance of jumping to conclusions, assuming that if Nazis were in Hazbin Hotel, there would be fanfics made of them.

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Yet another instance of jumping to conclusions. Nobody wants to see Charlie interact with Hitler or Simpson. They want the show to acknowledge the fact that Hell is full of dangerous and evil people, not just your average audience for a pride parade.

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Moving the goalposts. Charlie has said she believes people can change, and hasn't said there are any limits to that belief. The hotel itself was also created to help rehabilitate sinners, and Charlie hasn't been shown to willingly enable people's bad habits like Angel Dust's drug problems.

Just remember that if you see any combination of ‍and/or a hammer and sickle, you’re gonna see a bad fuckin take.
…I have no idea what KF did to the trans flag emoji I put there.

Don't forget watermelon emojis.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Crossposted.

Yep I remember that. I always thought they were a bit off when they had Alex Brightman sign a printed picture of their post popular video. But this just takes the cake. And saying they were trying to make a "safe space" for kids with the discord server...who made you the designated individual of keeping children safe online? Your videos aren't even really kid friendly.

Saw a bit of coping over Vivzie having a suspicious amount of gay people in Hell.
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Steven Universe also sucks though.
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The thing is this argument doesn't work here because Viv specifically said that being LGBTQ+ doesn't get you sent to Hell. She also said that people like nazis, terrorists, and pedophiles immediately disappear when they get to Hell. (But being a rapist apparently isn't that big of a crime which...okay?)

There's even a homophobic person in Hell; Katie Killjoy. Heaven doesn't have that. (I know some people might say Lute is one but it seems like she only found Vaggie dating Charlie to be vile because it's between an angel and a demon...and now I'm wondering how Adam and Lute knew Vaggie was dating Charlie in the first place.)

Holy Strawman Batman
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No...no it's not. Viv is at "best" criticizing religion, but definitely not Christianity. She's just taking name from the Bible and the story of mankind fall. Which doesn't even fully follow the Christian's version of because Lilith is there and she's part of Jewish mythology. Not to mention we haven't seen or heard of Jesus yet.

Besides, I always figured Hazbin Hotel to be less of a critique of religion and morality and more of (or at least was) an analytical look into redemption, if everyone deserved a chance and if the worst people in existence could change for the better.

 

[CyrusHowler]

It irks me because I like concepts of this show. But it’s so badly put together. Same with Helluva Boss.

You can keep the same characters, but change their motivations and the plots to both series’ and you’d actually have something here.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

Vivienne just cannot take criticism is the only real takeaway here

She couldn't even let her gay bestie sarcastically roast her a bit in the Helluva Amazon Prime announcement video without having Charlie interrupt to say how amazing and loved she is.

I don't even dislike Hazbin, but the chick has to have the most sensitive ego I've seen since John Kricfalusi.

 

[Kaizer Ghidorah]

I remember not giving a fuck about Hazbin, but thinking Helluva Boss had a fun initial premise, and getting an actual industry pro like Richard Horvitz in also piqued my interest. But then it just turned into shitty gay owl melodrama instead of the part I actually liked, and I was really disappointed

 

[Gondolindrim]

She couldn't even let her gay bestie sarcastically roast her a bit in the Helluva Amazon Prime announcement video without having Charlie interrupt to say how amazing and loved she is.
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I don't even dislike Hazbin, but the chick has to have the most sensitive ego I've seen since John Kricfalusi.

This is giving big "my creations should love and worship me" vibes. Who cares if Blitzo calls you a bitch, you made him. It means nothing.

 

[ApearFruit]

It irks me because I like concepts of this show. But it’s so badly put together. Same with Helluva Boss.

That's one of my issues with the setting of the hellaverse shows as well. All these really interesting (on paper at least) details, especially the hierarchy/dynamics between these "tribes" (if I could call 'em that, only because I think it's cool), that barely get explored... or are executed in a mostly boring/unsatisfying way.

 

[Activelo]

New leaked clip from Hazbin S2. Maybe there's more clips, but the ones I'm finding are from back in November.

 

[The tired cat]

New leaked clip from Hazbin S2. Maybe there's more clips, but the ones I'm finding are from back in November.
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I do like how at no point did Alastor go "Oh ye Charlie, theres this TV dickweed I had a scuffle back in the day. If you see his fancy ass, dont trust him"

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

I do like how at no point did Alastor go "Oh ye Charlie, theres this TV dickweed I had a scuffle back in the day. If you see his fancy ass, dont trust him"

Oh but Cat, didn't you know? We the audience have to MAKE the headcanons up ourselves because the creator cannot write for shit!

 

[InJailOutSoon]

New leaked clip from Hazbin S2. Maybe there's more clips, but the ones I'm finding are from back in November.
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Him twirling Charlie like that reminds me of Alastor in the pilot twirling Charlie.

 

[The Nothingness]

I, too, enjoy seeing the protagonist get taken advantage of by an obvious villain just like what happened last season. It's like she didn't grow as a character at all!

 

[The One Who Sneeds]

That's supposed to be horrifying?

Both are equally horrifying tbh