Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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That’s funny, you’re not the first critic I’ve seen to suggest Blitzo/Striker. I suppose it would have more substance than the yaoi fanfic that Stolitz turned into.

I don’t necessarily think Stolas would need to be cut entirely, but he’d be a lot better off as a side character.
Thinking it over a bit more, having Octavia be an aspiring law student interning at I.M.P. working under Millie both for her education and as a way to escape her parents constantly going for each other's throats as their sham marriage implodes would be a good way to tie in the Goetia family as a side plot. Gives both the characters something to do. Also the idea of Octavia gaining a woman worth looking up to as a role model in her life makes me smile. Just to crank up the heat a little rewrite to have Stolas and Stella roughly equal in faults for their relationship deteriorating; Juxtaposes nicely with Moxxie and Millie's healthy relationship.
 
Maybe have the book be a family heirloom of Moxxie's? Ooooh, make it so that he stole it from Crimson, which would give him an actual legit reason to want Moxxie gone.
And how about the Anti demon squad not be looked down on because in the pilot and second episode they had video proof of demons on earth
 
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The strangest idea struck me when reading this: I don’t think the characters in Helluva Boss are in the right roles to bring out the best interactions between them and fully explore the show’s concept.
You got characters and relationships, I got episodes. I can't believe two random Kiwifarmers shat out in a couple days what an entire team of Cali writers couldn't do in years.
 
What's wrong with the cherubs? They were absolutely adorable.
A. Vivzie forgot they existed
B. There's only three of them versus IMP's four
C. Adorable isn't really what I went for in my own autistic headcanon for a proper antithesis team
 
A. Vivzie forgot they existed
B. There's only three of them versus IMP's four
C. Adorable isn't really what I went for in my own autistic headcanon for a proper antithesis team
The Cherub crew would also work better as side characters, their personalities are very bombastic so small dosages for the viewer would be best, so make their role that of support: Make them the entities providing the means to the anti-Demon team. Aerosolized holy water grenades, tomes of Biblical arcana for shutting down unholy magic, ways to sanctify weapons and ammunition, it is the Cherubs that supply it as holy quartermasters to a group of humans who believe and or know Demons are killing humans and concluded that recreating DOOM is the best way to stop it.

The Cherubs are comedy relief to these Exorcists, as I will refer to them, who I would write as a killteam comprised of various satirized re-flavorings of Father Anderson from Hellsing. They are an actual threat and the best way for the main cast to survive them is to disengage and run. Assassin's don't stand and fight, they hit and fade, after all.

This would also address something subtly important: If it is so easy for Demons to get to Earth and act with impunity therein, why hasn't the Biblical Apocalypse already come and went by now? Murderous fanatics like the Exorcists serves as the answer. Going to Earth is a helluva risk for a helluva reward.

As a further aside about the heavenly side of things, I think angels, true full ranking angels above the menial workers like Cherub (even though Biblically speaking Cherubs are ridiculously powerful, just roll with it) shouldn't be depicted as characters. They should be forces of nature, living breathing delete buttons for all demon kind in their presence, an insurmountable final boss if you will. Our main characters are low to mid tier demons; Fighting an angel should be an unthinkable worst case scenario.
 
Our main characters are low to mid tier demons; Fighting an angel should be an unthinkable worst case scenario.
I like them. They're adorable, they're well-intentioned, they're unfairly fucked over by bureaucracy, like Deerie who Vivz for some reason chose as an avatar, they're just nice and cute. And willing to throw down for their beliefs.

Seriously the C.H.E.R.U.B. could have been the perfect opposition to I.M.P.

So could the D.H.O.R.K.S.

And yet nothing except yaoi shit. Pull up, Vivz!
 
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They lasted for exactly one episode before they were kicked out of heaven and basically dropped from the show, and Collin is the only one that's even kinda interesting.
Wish S2 would bring back Cherbus/Dorks instead of focusing on gay drama.

Oh well. I keep forgetting S2 is no longer about assassins in Hell.
 
Whatever, Deerie.
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It literally has, though.

What I really want is a sitcom about horny demon murderers killing people, but I'll settle for an irl bloodbath I guess.
Oh jeez, seeing earlier episode animation where they actually used frame-by-frame animation and SMEAR FRAMES instead of Toon Boom rigging is so... weird. Does anyone else feel like the animation has deteriorated dramatically? It feels like they're trading quality for putting out episodes nearly monthly now, as opposed to once a few months.

God this show is such a mess lmao.

Comparison between the CHERUBS episode and the recent episode -
CHERUB:
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The Circus (ffs lmao you can SEE where they spliced parts to be moved):
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