Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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I'm fucking DYING laughing because they didn't even try with designing this one.

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I had to take a second look to see the chair she was sitting on because I thought she was like a secretary or something and not a whole overlord.
 
I'm fucking DYING laughing because they didn't even try with designing this one.

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I had to take a second look to see the chair she was sitting on because I thought she was like a secretary or something and not a whole overlord.
Oh come on, this must be a background character who doesn't have that much importance to the characters and overall story. Surely they wouldn't have such a bland design fill some kind of big role that has an affect on the plot and main characters.
...right?
 
God... the white lapels... it looks horrible.
it's impressive how stupid of a design Alastor is.
you mean to tell me a man who's style and sensibilities in all other respects haven't developed since the 1920s has THAT fuckass bob cut? Viv says she designed this character when she was 13 which explains a lot.
And it's pretty obvious that Vivzie has no actual sense for men's fashion and didn't do the slightest amount of research into the time periods the characters supposedly style themselves after, so every single design she makes ends up being just an iteration on the same fucking template, which from what I can surmise, is:
  • spiky teeth
  • pinstriped jacket (even though the pants never have any)
  • top hats
  • bow ties
  • stand collars
  • black hands with colored fingertips
And because she so completely lacks the ability to set designs apart from each other in silhouette and style (even between suits), her natural way of differentiating characters is to just overload them with superfluous details. People said "everything is so red! alastor struggles to be readable or pop against the red background!" was to add some white to his lapels which don't serve the design in any way whatsoever.
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Here's my redesign of Alastor. Everything Viv tried to do with her design, I did better, because I actually know a goddamn thing or two about what a man in the 1920s would have worn, even the haircut.
  • Undercut side part, way more 1920s accurate but not less flamboyant, with some beaded rat tails for "voodooeyness"
  • white detachable collar and cuffs (as was standard in the 1920s) as well as spats instead of white piping on the lapels
  • Black tie with cross collar-pin instead of a bowtie with a fuckass cross-print shirt
  • Solid red drape jacket, stripes moved to pants to evoke morning dress ensembles (look it up, lord knows vivzie didn't)
  • red db waistcoat with pocket chain.

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Also, a vox design. Apparently this guy is supposed to be a 1950s TV presenter so I actually followed through with what a guy of that time period would have worn, a 3 button 2 piece suit with a thin horizontal-striped tie, "tv fold" pocket square and a collar bar. Neat. Simple. Effective.
It didn't need any of the "vivzieisms" and pointless random details to set it apart, only the bare minimum of thought behind the design.
No bow tie, no spiky teeth, no pinstripes, no top hat, none of that.
 
As it was previously pointed out, having Alastor always smiling is like Viv wanted to make a character that would her own Joker. Except the latter has shown other emotions and doesn't constantly have a big grin.
I actually like Alastor always smiling as a display of dominance. But it kind of gets diluted if EVERYONE also does that.
 
More possible insider info dropped. There's no proof this isn't some bored anon on Tumblr, but the person they're posting this to (Chaifootsteps) has generally seemed pretty reliable when it comes to leaks, so I thought I'd leave this here.
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It explains the 2 season thing and why the fuck Husk looked so out of character in that one clip of him (Possession being in Charlie's powerset wasn't really expected)
I'm not sure I believe the thing about the meeting considering the board had a picture of an exterminator.
And the shit Viv says about Alastor and his level of strength is so inconsistent that him being stronger than Lucifer isn't even a surprise anymore, and it explains just whyyy he didn't get killed on the spot by shaking the devil's staff like that.
The thing about Lilith is all but confirmed by leaked audition doc for Lucifer.
 
More possible insider info dropped. There's no proof this isn't some bored anon on Tumblr, but the person they're posting this to (Chaifootsteps) has generally seemed pretty reliable when it comes to leaks, so I thought I'd leave this here.
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It explains the 2 season thing and why the fuck Husk looked so out of character in that one clip of him (Possession being in Charlie's powerset wasn't really expected)
I'm not sure I believe the thing about the meeting considering the board had a picture of an exterminator.
And the shit Viv says about Alastor and his level of strength is so inconsistent that him being stronger than Lucifer isn't even a surprise anymore, and it explains just whyyy he didn't get killed on the spot by shaking the devil's staff like that.
The thing about Lilith is all but confirmed by leaked audition doc for Lucifer.
>"Lillith is a carbon copy of Stella."
Please, fucking no.
 
If these leaks are real, then holy shit this show sounds bad. Not only taking the worst elements from Helluva (with Lilith being Stella 2.0 and probably not much focus on the premise the show is about), but doubling down on it.

Remember when Helluva was meant to be the comedic side project to Hazbin
 
More possible insider info dropped. There's no proof this isn't some bored anon on Tumblr, but the person they're posting this to (Chaifootsteps) has generally seemed pretty reliable when it comes to leaks, so I thought I'd leave this here.
It kind of reads like made-up bullshit.
 
I'm fucking DYING laughing because they didn't even try with designing this one.

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I had to take a second look to see the chair she was sitting on because I thought she was like a secretary or something and not a whole overlord.
So this is what passes for overlords these days. Pathetic. It's almost to perfect an example of laziness. I wonder if you just took some random background character or fan OC
and are passing it off as an overlord?
 
More possible insider info dropped. There's no proof this isn't some bored anon on Tumblr, but the person they're posting this to (Chaifootsteps) has generally seemed pretty reliable when it comes to leaks, so I thought I'd leave this here.
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It explains the 2 season thing and why the fuck Husk looked so out of character in that one clip of him (Possession being in Charlie's powerset wasn't really expected)
I'm not sure I believe the thing about the meeting considering the board had a picture of an exterminator.
And the shit Viv says about Alastor and his level of strength is so inconsistent that him being stronger than Lucifer isn't even a surprise anymore, and it explains just whyyy he didn't get killed on the spot by shaking the devil's staff like that.
The thing about Lilith is all but confirmed by leaked audition doc for Lucifer.

>"Lillith is a carbon copy of Stella."
Please, fucking no.

I thought she would be niceish because of how Charlie called her and not her dad when she was hopeless in the Youtube pilot. You'd think she'd have some humanity to show she was once the first human woman.
I suspected family drama/daddy issues would part of the show. But having one character's personality put on another for another show takes laziness to a whole new level. And this retcon just makes that scene from pilot pointless.

If Vaggie is the only one from the main cast who will die, that will at least generate some entertainment from the target demo.
 
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Judging from the leaks alone, you can already tell Hazbin is gonna be a shitshow if they turn out to be true.

I never had a lot of interest in Hazbin as I did with Helluva but it makes me wonder if it’s gonna have the same issues as Helluva, focusing more on the gay shit than on the actual plot. If Lilith is going to be another Stella does they mean Lucifer is going to be like Stolas and go gay for someone? 🤔
 
Speedran this entire thread and I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the entire hate fandom is just jealous that their parents weren't rich enough to bankroll their teenage deviantart-tier yaoi fantasies into a career in animation. Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss both remind me of some shit me and my fujioshi friends from the high school anime club would come up with. Thats probably why it comes off as painfully juvinile, like something you'd find in Hot Topic next to the Invader Zim merch. Every teenage girl in the 2010's who knew how to pick up a pencil and draw was cherning out OCs like these. Vivzie was just lucky enough to have the means to enter the industry. Its a shame she fucked it up because there are much more talented fujo artists out there dying for the opportunities she pissed away.

The reason its beginning to suck is because the characters and lore lack depth. They only exist so Vivzie can ship them with eachother. The whole IP is just a dollhouse of sorts, these characters are just toys to vivzie, nothing more. She doesn't want to tell a story, she just wants her homemade yaoi collection televised for her own amusement.
 
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The entire hate fandom is just jealous that their parents weren't rich enough to bankroll their teenage deviantart-tier yaoi fantasies into a career in animation.
Could be so, though in my opinion /pol/ is the main exception to this and just outright demolishes the creators, the two shows, and their respective fandoms.
 
Speedran this entire thread and I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the entire hate fandom is just jealous that their parents weren't rich enough to bankroll their teenage deviantart-tier yaoi fantasies into a career in animation. Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss both remind me of some shit me and my fujioshi friends from the high school anime club would come up with. Thats probably why it comes off as painfully juvinile, like something you'd find in Hot Topic next to the Invader Zim merch. Every teenage girl in the 2010's who knew how to pick up a pencil and draw was cherning out OCs like these. Vivzie was just lucky enough to have the means to enter the industry. Its a shame she fucked it up because there are much more talented fujo artists out there dying for the opportunities she pissed away.

The reason its beginning to suck is because the characters and lore lack depth. They only exist so Vivzie can ship them with eachother. The whole IP is just a dollhouse of sorts, these characters are just toys to vivzie, nothing more. She doesn't want to tell a story, she just wants her homemade yaoi collection televised for her own amusement.
Nah, her two shows just suck and Viv's an entertainingly toxic womanchild.
 
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