Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
Viv is 100% a lolcow (and she probably reads this thread). All I can say to her when she inevitably reads this is to just try and not go off the rails too much and stick to the fundamentals that made the HH pilot episode really work. I know studios want changes, but sometimes you have to fight against that to keep the core product the core product.
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A true lolcow does not take such advice.
 
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Something that occurred to me this morning, and I'm likely stating the obvious, is that there are too many storylines that are being squeezed into 20+ minute episodes. The first two of this season has established the following:
  • The Exterminators have shorten their next arrival to 6 months because one of their own was killed and they don't want Hell to know that.
  • Charlie now has a shorter deadline and needs to get more guests.
  • Vox wants to sabotage the hotel to defeat Alastor and be the most powerful Overlord
  • Angel is torn between staying at the hotel and reforming himself or returning to Valentino because he thinks he cannot change.
All these different storylines would have time to breath in a more serious show that has 45 minutes an episode. Most of them will probably have quick resolutions or dropped when the season finale rolls around. I don't expect anything to come about with the deal between Alastor and Vaggie, even though he said it was insignificant.
 
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I don't know or care much for this show, but I would like to use my time here to remind everybody that Gaytur's sister wrote her own erotia in which Alastor eats her out:

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Whether the show turned out middling or bad, you're all now blessed with the knowledge that Christopher Brian Holloman's sister almost certainly got off to it.
 
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I watched episode 1 with a friend and I pretty much regurgitate what everyone else has said
The writing my god feels like it's written by a teenager going through their fuck you mom phase constant swearing and vulgarity everywhere, it loses the touch after the 6th time in under 2 minutes you know
The pacing is all over the place and it's just ridiculous, people say Murder Drones feels random and goes out of nowhere but this is makes that look like a carefully crafted novel in comparison
Adam acts no different from demons and it's a missed opportunity, could of easily had him be a stuck up but cold professional with a no nonsense attitude and had charlie slowly lose her cool due to fear and realizing she has to be careful with her choice of words to avoid pissing him off, instead we get dick jokes

All in all, it's, okay but it's not good or terrible and I once again ask who is the audience for this because it has zero appeal to masses and i'd argue if this shit was family rated it'd actually be acceptable and somewhat enjoyable because then there would be restrictions and less cringey dialogue and jokes and feel more like an okay children's musical because that's the only demographic I think would truly enjoy this
 
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Dynamite Bean said:
Adam acts no different from demons and it's a missed opportunity, could of easily had him be a stuck up but cold professional with a no nonsense attitude and had charlie slowly lose her cool due to fear and realizing she has to be careful with her choice of words to avoid pissing him off, instead we get dick jokes
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As we predicted Heaven will turn out to be worst than Hell, having an angel like Adam swear and use toilet humor defeats the purpose of Heaven being full of good souls and holy beings. He could have been snobbish and condescending who doesn't "lower" himself by using the language of "degenerates" if Vivie wants to keep the "Christians are no fun" trope.
 
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Okay now that I’ve seen the first two episodes I think they’re fine! vaggie’s VA is horrible though she’s giving 4kids dub type acting seriously what is up with that.
I’m going to be more critical of the show once the entire season is out and I can watch it all together. Then I’ll judge characters and story elements.

I do wish there were less musical numbers. You don’t need two or three in an episode just do one. And some of them feel like they come the fuck out of nowhere too. Charlie’s happy day in hell felt awkwardly shoved in and I didn’t like it.

Vox vs Alastor song was the best song. Kind of wish the show was about him and the V’s and not Charlie lol
 
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I'm really starting to hate the trend of modern cartoons all being musicals. Steven Universe ruined an entire generation of animation. Vivzie is not beating the written by Vivziepop allegations with that fucking angel meeting scene. Haha get it it's fuckin funny because they fuckin said fuck and bitch you fuckin bitch bitchfucker.

I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic but in the wake of these questionable episodes of a questionable woman's questionable show I'd like to plug an indie show I actually really enjoy that doesn't get nearly as much attention.


Instead of watching a show about lesbian demons singing about their problems why not watch a space spic mercenary go on space adventures with his bro?
 
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The Nothingness said:
As we predicted Heaven will turn out to be worst than Hell, having an angel like Adam swear and use toilet humor defeats the purpose of Heaven being full of good souls and holy beings. He could have been snobbish and condescending who doesn't "lower" himself by using the language of "degenerates" if Vivie wants to keep the "Christians are no fun" trope.
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Likely could be wrong here, but it could be the case that Adam is purposefully an outlier from Heaven, in truth a sinner who has been given an honorary admittance to Heaven to head the extermination squad and act as general liaison to Hell because angels are wary of putting themselves directly into that role out of concern for "he who fights with monsters". Adam is of course all too happy to accept this arrangement and uses it to pretend that he's hot shit while lording over denizens of Hell he interacts with, his personal boasts to Charlie possibly being embellishments when his angelic peers actually keep him at arm's length. This adds a twist to his song in that he's not only going to be obviously wrong about Heaven's rock-solid denial of sinners because he's an antagonist, but also already fully aware that he's wrong because he knows he's a sinner who got into Heaven without even being remorseful.

We already see that Lute shares none of Adam's uncouthness, and we're later going to get more angelic characters to compare.
 
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Alter Ego said:
Likely could be wrong here, but it could be the case that Adam is purposefully an outlier from Heaven, in truth a sinner who has been given an honorary admittance to Heaven to head the extermination squad and act as general liaison to Hell because angels are wary of putting themselves directly into that role out of concern for "he who fights with monsters". Adam is of course all too happy to accept this arrangement and uses it to pretend that he's hot shit while lording over denizens of Hell he interacts with, his personal boasts to Charlie possibly being embellishments when his angelic peers actually keep him at arm's length. This adds a twist to his song in that he's not only going to be obviously wrong about Heaven's rock-solid denial of sinners because he's an antagonist, but also already fully aware that he's wrong because he knows he's a sinner who got into Heaven without even being remorseful.

We already see that Lute shares none of Adam's uncouthness, and we're later going to get more angelic characters to compare.
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It wouldn't surprise me, the audition leaks point to Sera being an 'Ends justify the means' type character who clearly doesn't like the Exterminations but views them as a necessary evil, and Emily basically being angel Charlie and outright saying she wants an alternative solution to the whole problem. However I do want to point out the intro only showed Eve biting into the forbidden fruit, so maybe in this Adam didn't fall for Lucifer's scheme.

On that note, I hoping the intro is going to be a case of an unreliable narrator, especially considering that Charlie reads the story from a book. It won't surprise me if we get an equally one-sided version of events from some Heaven character that adds events like Lucifer trying to violently overthrow Heaven's leadership to rule it himself (It seems that God isn't a thing here) and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I hate that the first two episodes were just good enough to give me a tiny spark of hope that this might end up being somewhat decent, but everything else is telling me it's all downhill from here.
 
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Dr. Ricearoni said:
I'm really starting to hate the trend of modern cartoons all being musicals.
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Don't worry, Disney hs ensured that it would bleed all over tv series and superhero movies as well...
Seriously, fuck musical numbers, we devolved to the point that 90% of the time is just filler or an akward way for a character to tell to the audience how they feel.
Taking again the episodes of helluva boss as an example, it worked only during the intro of second episode because it was a lullaby for a little girl, and I almost didn't skipped it that when the two demons where captured by government and tripping hard on convenient truth gas.
 
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Dr. Ricearoni said:
I'm really starting to hate the trend of modern cartoons all being musicals. Steven Universe ruined an entire generation of animation. Vivzie is not beating the written by Vivziepop allegations with that fucking angel meeting scene. Haha get it it's fuckin funny because they fuckin said fuck and bitch you fuckin bitch bitchfucker.

I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic but in the wake of these questionable episodes of a questionable woman's questionable show I'd like to plug an indie show I actually really enjoy that doesn't get nearly as much attention.


Instead of watching a show about lesbian demons singing about their problems why not watch a space spic mercenary go on space adventures with his bro?
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You say Steven Universe. I say Phineas and Ferb.
By the by, I agree with your plugging Monkey Wrench.
 
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Yeah, I noticed that too it didn't show or mention of Adam eating the fruit. That could explain it, though it still doesn't make sense why he's an angel.

I don't know, and I honestly care. There's so many storylines being introduced in the first two episodes when it should really focus on the original premise of redeeming sinners, and then sprinkle in these other plots later. You can't get invested in what's going on, and it doesn't help that most of the cast is either bland, annoying, or a mixture of both.

The only characters that interest me now are Vox and Nifty (mostly for the comedy), but I'm sure they'll be ruined later on. Oh well. At least KeeKee won't be harmed.

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Just look at the cutie.
 
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