Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[PaladinBoo]

Secondly, as a relationship it's not even well-written. Stolas is a married man with a teenage daughter having an affair with a work colleague, but we're supposed to root for Stolas almost unconditionally. They try to do this by making Stella as unlikeable as possible, because obviously if his wife is a bitch then she deserves to get cheated on. As for how this makes his teenage daughter feel, the show tries to address this by... having another character essentially just tell her to be happy for her father. Yeah, great, guess we don't need to ask any more questions there.

"Be happy for your father." Holy shit that is bad. That is the epitome of selfish, self-centered millennials right there. One of the last things you ever tell a child whose parents are going through a divorce is that they should be happy for their parents. It is one of the most selfish and destructive things you can say to a child that creates a lot of resentment and anger in them. Jesus Viv, I knew you had autism but I didn't think you were that much of an unemphatic retard.

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

I blame Jhonen Vasquez for inspiring this gay bullshit.

I don't think even gay people supported Jhonen Vasquez. His more mature works before his work in the kid's media had some characters murdered and I think there was a gay character murdered in books. Call it the "IT" effect. (No pun intended) But I don't believe he ever cared for gay-related stuff. Even in his own works, I don't remember him ever having a gay guy that is too gay.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

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Huh, the bitch saying the final product gonna have uncomfortable because is the point of it.
Girl, let me tell you something: i wrote months ago a pre-rape scene (quickly interrupted by the protagonist) within the plot of my novel and even that i was careful with dealing with the point: the rapers, being in a elite unit of secret agents, are a bunch of degens.
But you, Vivzie: you wrote that scene as a degenerative fetish point. And that is a insult of art itself.
Get fucked, furfag fat.

 

[Shidoen]

"Be happy for your father." Holy shit that is bad. That is the epitome of selfish, self-centered millennials right there. One of the last things you ever tell a child whose parents are going through a divorce is that they should be happy for their parents. It is one of the most selfish and destructive things you can say to a child that creates a lot of resentment and anger in them. Jesus Viv, I knew you had autism but I didn't think you were that much of an unemphatic retard.

How many kids of divorcees you want to bet are on the Viv team?

 

[Lavender Moth]

honestly based, good taste.

LMAO I can't disagree. Her art art and costuming abilities are genuinely good and she initially seemed like a sane person (as far as fujo types go) before she pooned out and started her grotesque Angel LARP arch.

Probably too of me but I'd love to see her drop the he/they onlyfans bullshit and just go back to making costumes and art. Would legit be a shame if she ruined herself with troonshine.

 

[Staticness]

Vivzie’s stock in trade is a show set in hell. Now assuming that she’s a turbo fan of hell, of course she seems dead set on dragging everyone else there too.

 

[Android raptor]

"Be happy for your father." Holy shit that is bad. That is the epitome of selfish, self-centered millennials right there. One of the last things you ever tell a child whose parents are going through a divorce is that they should be happy for their parents. It is one of the most selfish and destructive things you can say to a child that creates a lot of resentment and anger in them. Jesus Viv, I knew you had autism but I didn't think you were that much of an unemphatic retard.

That's not what I remember though. I remember her being scared/worried, and her dad having to reassure her he still loved her and wasn't going to abandon her for Blitz. Tbh the parts with Stolas and his daughter were some of my favs, because she's a kid with a pretty realistic reaction to her parents having a toxic/unhealthy relationship and while Stolas is deeply flawed, he still loves his daughter and tries to do the right thing in the end for her.

I don't agree with a lot of the criticism of the show. It's not perfect, but I think people exaggerate or straight up make up shit about it.

 

[Po's Cootah]

Also, breaking news: Some of the reviews are fake and made by a dumb teenager.

 

[WelperHelper99]

"Be happy for your father." Holy shit that is bad. That is the epitome of selfish, self-centered millennials right there. One of the last things you ever tell a child whose parents are going through a divorce is that they should be happy for their parents. It is one of the most selfish and destructive things you can say to a child that creates a lot of resentment and anger in them. Jesus Viv, I knew you had autism but I didn't think you were that much of an unemphatic retard.

Coming from a guy from a divorced family... Holy shit I would have throttled someone. It's better to get it over quickly than drag it out in front of the kids. You want your daughter never to call you again? Keep saying that shit. Kill yourself Vivzie

 

[Shidoen]

Vivzie’s stock in trade is a show set in hell. Now assuming that she’s a turbo fan of hell, of course she seems dead set on dragging everyone else there too.

As the legend Ralph once did, he foresaw this.

 

[Colon capital V]

Not going to quote the original post with Verbalase, but what I will say is the videos were dogshit even BEFORE the whole scandal with the Hazbin Hotel video.

FAGGOT ALERT
Beatbox Thanos WABAG and basically, you're a NIGGER!

 

[Android raptor]

Coming from a guy from a divorced family... Holy shit I would have throttled someone. It's better to get it over quickly than drag it out in front of the kids. You want your daughter never to call you again? Keep saying that shit. Kill yourself Vivzie

I think you should watch the show and form your own opinions. It's not perfect but it's handled much better than that post described. The show isn't finished so I don't know where it's going to ultimately go with the characters, but so far I don't agree with a lot of the criticism.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Also, breaking news: Some of the reviews are fake and made by a dumb teenager.

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If this is true then, can't say I feel too bad nor surprised because this is the type of audience she attracts and appeals to(dumb teenagers)

 

[Android raptor]

If this is true then wow, can't say I feel too bad nor surprised because this is the type of audience she attracts and appeals to(dumb teenagers)

That's also what the shows hatedom mostly consists of.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I think you should watch the show and form your own opinions. It's not perfect but it's handled much better than that post described. The show isn't finished so I don't know where it's going to ultimately go with the characters, but so far I don't agree with a lot of the criticism.

But I did watch a fair bit. He treats his family life like garbage. His daughter gets shafted for his personal lusts. Fuck that

 

[gor]

Want to see some anonymous reviews from the animation staff about Spindlehorse? Here is a link to the tweet. (a)

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I think you should watch the show and form your own opinions. It's not perfect but it's handled much better than that post described. The show isn't finished so I don't know where it's going to ultimately go with the characters, but so far I don't agree with a lot of the criticism.

You have always the same idea of defending in the worst manner.
Months ago you're defending another pile of shit. I remember at least how your ass got whipped.
Fuck off.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

As others have said before, Viv comes from a wealthy family, and I think that has more to do with her poor behavior than her just being an autistic fujo, though that certainly does make things worse.

She's obviously been enabled her entire life so having multiple people criticizing her, and her work-no matter how reasonable, founded, or constructive that criticism is-, and not giving into her tantrums when she tries to deny any of it is something she just can't handle because of her background.

 

[Android raptor]

But I did watch a fair bit. He treats his family life like garbage. His daughter gets shafted for his personal lusts. Fuck that

How much did you watch? Because he does love his daughter even if he's made a lot of mistakes

I'm not sure where people get the impression that Stolas is supposed to be seen as blameless or w/e, since the daughter is the only innocent person in the owl family. A character can be sympathic while still being deeply flawed and making a lot of bad choices (flawless characters tend to be less sympathic no matter how tragic you make their backstory since they're Mary Sues).

 

[PsychoJenny]

Why can’t we just have an indie success story where the people involved aren’t complete fucking tards. I just want to see one project, doesn’t even have to be good, that starts from small beginnings and everyone makes a million dollars.

Lethal Company is a video game developed by a single Furry that's made millions already