Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[The Nothingness]

Coulda had a whole ass arc of him trying to convince Charlie that this whole hotel shit is a waste of time but begrudgingly going along with it because she's his daughter and he has a tiny soft spot for her, realizing that it could be a solid means of unifying the chaotic and unorganized legions of hell to usurp God after successfully resisting the extermination and as a result taking it over and going full villain mode, and having the story end with Charlie redeeming her own father after God comes in and exposes the truth that is Lucifiers greatest lie.

That whole thing was cinema fam.
You’re right about The Devil, that’s exactly how he is.
A conniver and manipulator.

The cherry on top would have been Lucifer unleashing his inner Al Pacino and trying to sway Charlie to his side.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I would say that Vizie has more problems with mothers than fathers, since they are either dead or abusive, with Millie's mother being the exception for being in the show for a few seconds, but actually parents in general are not the strong point of these shows,

If Loona is to be believed a father is good if he is trying to be good, or at least claims to be trying even if every action he takes contradicts that (in this logic Paimon would be a great dad).

Maybe they can write a story of Loona trying to be a parent. Just like those weird fanart/fanfics

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Maybe they can write a story of Loona trying to be a parent. Just like those weird fanart/fanfics
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Just when you think you can't possibly hate Western animation fans more....

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[Amerikaner Teddybär]

To be fair, Viv's whole thing with Daddy issues is that it only applies to side/flashback characters, than fathers who happen to be major characters. Compared to most of the Dads Viv has written, Lucifer is the only good father whose worst crime is being a depressed recluse, but came around in the end to help the hotel and save his daughter.

But then there's Helluva Boss where every Dad is a piece of shit, and the only ones who Viv insists on are good are Blitzo and Stolas (Both happen to be main characters). Despite this insistence, Stolas is a terrible father that the narrative tries hard to insist is a good guy despite his two appearances with his daughter consisting of bringing along the guy he is cheating on her mom with to flirt aggressively with, being out of touch with what she likes, and spends time fucking around in LA with that same guy he is having the affair with than look for his runaway daughter.

I find the whole daddy issues thing with Vivz as ironic since from what she's said about her own father, she doesn't seem to harbor much negativity towards him.

On a different note, I decided to look into the alleged suicide that happened within the fandom and so far it's not looking good.

On Sunday, February 11th a twitter user with the handle snakeswithhands tweeted this out with a Google Document linked:

The Google Document goes into detail about a person referred to as "Shay" who allegedly killed themselves back in December due to receiving extreme harassment over shipping Alastor and Angel Dust. I'll link the document in question here for anyone wishing to read more. (A)

However, there has been speculation the whole ordeal is made up for various reasons. Therefore I advise to treat the document with scrutiny.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

What makes me laugh about this is that this is exactly the same shit that happened to the bronies, and look how well that turned out for them.

Start out with a mediocre to good show, attract autists, autists then shove it fucking everywhere pissing off the rest of the internet, bean-counters think that means it's profitable so they shove it everywhere as well, normal people get pissed off, shows fanbase is now seen as scum of the earth.

At least HH and HB are clearly targeted at teenagers and developmentally stunted YA's, so the fandom is not nearly as creepy as the one about a show that is targeted at pre pubescent children.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

@Amerikaner Teddybär is there a difference in the current version of the google doc and the one archived a few days earlier? be interesting to see if they've been changing things in it. wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were.

sorry for the weird ping, replies are still broken.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

At least HH and HB are clearly targeted at teenagers and developmentally stunted YA's, so the fandom is not nearly as creepy as the one about a show that is targeted at pre pubescent children.

Yeah Bronies are a lightning in a bottle of weirdos, especially when there is the aspect where they try hard to assert their masculinity and saying how MLP is manly because of pop culture references.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

@Amerikaner Teddybär is there a difference in the current version of the google doc and the one archived a few days earlier? be interesting to see if they've been changing things in it. wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were.

sorry for the weird ping, replies are still broken.

No worries, from what I can tell nothing significant changed from your archive and the current document.

Also sorry, I didn't see you already made a post on the HH suicide. I was a bit hungover on Monday after the Super Bowl.

Yeah Bronies are a lightning in a bottle of weirdos, especially when there is the aspect where they try hard to assert their masculinity and saying how MLP is manly because of pop culture references.

MLP was truly on oddity of the 2010s.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

No worries, from what I can tell nothing significant changed from your archive and the current document.

Also sorry, I didn't see you already made a post on the HH suicide. I was a bit hungover on Monday after the Super Bowl.


MLP was truly on oddity of the 2010s.

no worries at all, you never know with these shifty fuckers. hope your team won/you had a lot of fun for the superbowl, fren.

there will never ever be another lolcow show like MLP FIM, that show produced an unprecedented amount of entertainment just from the fanbase it created.

 

[Grant McClellan]

Yeah Bronies are a lightning in a bottle of weirdos, especially when there is the aspect where they try hard to assert their masculinity and saying how MLP is manly because of pop culture references.

Oh of course you shit on bronies. Not all of them were the weirdos you make them out to be

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

Oh of course you shit on bronies. Not all of them were the weirdos you make them out to be

Every single Brony is a social pariah.

 

[Seafarer]

Lucifer is the only good father whose worst crime is being a depressed recluse, but came around in the end to help the hotel and save his daughter.

So the time it’d make the most sense for a character to have a shitty father and daddy issues Viv does the opposite, smh.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Maybe they can write a story of Loona trying to be a parent. Just like those weird fanart/fanfics
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I swear, the loud house fandom will NEVER get over that one episode about bad luck or whatever, will they?

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I swear, the loud house fandom will NEVER get over that one episode about bad luck or whatever, will they?

Neither will Mr. Enter. In fact, in some comments at the deviantart page of those images, some fans are blaming Mr. Enter for the backlash. Counter arguments claim there was already backlash before his video, and half of them never even heard of Mr. Enter.

Spoiler: Speaking of which - it gets worse

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[Islamic Jihad Rocket]

Neither will Mr. Enter. In fact, in some comments at the deviantart page of those images, some fans are blaming Mr. Enter for the backlash. Counter arguments claim there was already backlash before his video, and half of them never even heard of Mr. Enter.

Spoiler: Speaking of which - it gets worse

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These two comics here remind me just how fucking autistic Loud House fans are, between that and one of its writers/directors (correct me if I’m wrong since i don’t remember all the details) being a pedophile and kicked from Nick for being a creep. Nothing good has come from it and I can’t help but hate it with my entire existence and anything associated with it. Everything that’s come from it has always came off as sus to me and anyone who’s a fan is probably also a pedophile or autist with who hyper fixates on shitty western cartoons.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Every single Brony is a social pariah.

As an ex-Brony, I can confirm this.

no worries at all, you never know with these shifty fuckers. hope your team won/you had a lot of fun for the superbowl, fren.

Did the team I want to win win? No. Did I have a good time? Yes. Also I wouldn't be terribly shocked if the story's true, especially since the Steven Universe fandom pushed someone to suicide for a piece of fanart.

These two comics here remind me just how fucking autistic Loud House fans are, between that and one of its writers/directors (correct me if I’m wrong since i don’t remember all the details) being a pedophile and kicked from Nick for being a creep. Nothing good has come from it and I can’t help but hate it with my entire existence and anything associated with it. Everything that’s come from it has always came off as sus to me and anyone who’s a fan is probably also a pedophile or autist with who hyper fixates on shitty western cartoons.

Loud House truly is a baffling case study.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

one of its writers/directors (correct me if I’m wrong since i don’t remember all the details) being a pedophile and kicked from Nick for being a creep.

It was the creator, Chris Savino, who got fired. Didn't see anything about pedophilia, though, just the standard allegations of sexual harassment and being a dick to his female coworkers.

John K was definitely a pedophile since he groomed teenagers, and there was that chick Julia Vickerman who worked on the shitty Powerpuff Girls reboot and then got fired from her own show for some old social media posts about lusting after an emo teenager. Probably plenty of others out there in the animation industry who just haven't gotten caught yet.

 

[Tablet County]

there was that chick Julia Vickerman who worked on the shitty Powerpuff Girls reboot and then got fired from her own show for some old social media posts about lusting after an emo teenager.

You're gonna talk about the PPG reboot and not bring up the guy that put his self-insert into the show for Blossom be enamored with? For shame.

 

[Cave Fisher]

These two comics here remind me just how fucking autistic Loud House fans are, between that and one of its writers/directors (correct me if I’m wrong since i don’t remember all the details) being a pedophile and kicked from Nick for being a creep. Nothing good has come from it and I can’t help but hate it with my entire existence and anything associated with it. Everything that’s come from it has always came off as sus to me and anyone who’s a fan is probably also a pedophile or autist with who hyper fixates on shitty western cartoons.

I know this is probably way off-topic, but shit like this still makes me a little annoyed and somewhat concerned that they thought it was a good idea to make a live action version of the show and even a live action movie knowing good and god damn well how its fanbase is filled with pedophiles and general weirdos. Attaching real kids to that was a TERRIBLE idea.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

You're gonna talk about the PPG reboot and not bring up the guy that put his self-insert into the show for Blossom be enamored with? For shame.

I try to think about that shitshow as little as possible, tbh. Same with the thankfully aborted live-action monstrosity they were trying to make.