Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I have no idea if there’s a way to articulate this without sounding cringe. But I’m starting to think that while Viv is all like “sex, sexy, more sex!” Her art style just really isn’t made for sexiness? Whenever she tries drawing something suggestive, it just makes me think of this.
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Then again, it’s clearly appealing to one of the target demographics (furries), and I’m sure we all know how abysmal their standards can be.
 
Vivz is just an autistic-savant who can make amazing animations and character designs (but writes worse than if she literally plopped her vibe on her keyboard) being used to fleece furries and other people with mental illnesses. Hire someone instead of phoning it in, god damn.

Gen Z and Alpha are going to brainrot worse from this shit. It's shocking how popular HH is with kids but I'd blame the parents not Vivz for that.
 
The thing is people were complaining about it when the pilot initially aired, but if they knew anything about Brandon Roger's videos, they wouldn't have been so "Pikachu surpise face" about it because that kind of humor is right up his ally. Didn't really matter that they backpedaled though, because is the episode where Blitzø acknowledges he can't say retarded anymore, people still complained that he was making fun of a mentally handicapped person. And all I'm thinking about this is "who the fuck cares? They're demons in Hell. Why are you expecting these kinds of characters to have the same moral standards as you?"

I swear, "kinning culture" really pushed a huge setback on fictional characters cause people are putting themselves way too much into them. No wonder people got upset that Jax from TADC was just a funny asshole. Because apparently the only good kind of asshole is a "nice asshole". And I'd argue that kind of asshole is the biggest asshole of them all.

There is the other side of the coin too, the modern internet users who cant tell reality from fiction WILL tell you how much of a horrible human being you are for liking them. This is why people prefer "unproblematic assholes". Characters that are edgy/jerks (therefore "hot") but not too offensive or irredemable so random strangers on twitter won't try to dox or witch hunt you for liking them.

Hazbin allegedly had a mini drama on tumblr/twitter when Alastor threatned husk because it made him "problematic". Being a cannibal serial killer is detached enough from reality for women to find hot but slave torture? That's just awkward ya know?

Note that vivzie is partially at fault for setting up expectations too. Most of vivzie's "edge" comes from swearing, sex, violence and "non political" insults, on top of being an lgbt ally (and bisexual??). You already know you'll never see Alastor calling someone a faggot or nigger.
 
I have no idea if there’s a way to articulate this without sounding cringe. But I’m starting to think that while Viv is all like “sex, sexy, more sex!” Her art style just really isn’t made for sexiness? Whenever she tries drawing something suggestive, it just makes me think of this.
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Then again, it’s clearly appealing to one of the target demographics (furries), and I’m sure we all know how abysmal their standards can be.
It's says something when the fan art of her characters brings the sex factor than any official artwork.
 
Didn't Lilith have at least a little appeal? But it might have been one of her other artists before they all jumped ship.
 
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I have no idea if there’s a way to articulate this without sounding cringe. But I’m starting to think that while Viv is all like “sex, sexy, more sex!” Her art style just really isn’t made for sexiness? Whenever she tries drawing something suggestive, it just makes me think of this.
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Then again, it’s clearly appealing to one of the target demographics (furries), and I’m sure we all know how abysmal their standards can be.
The pic captures the exact problem with it. She tries SO HARD to try to make everything sexy to her audience of 14 year olds, but the artstyle just doesn't work in its favor toward that, the characters are made out of basic-ass looking shapes, when you look at someone like Alastor and try to imagine what he looks like naked, you just imagine a geometry quiz but with a dick. Stella, Lilith, and MAAYBE Striker are the only characters I'd consider actually attractive.
 
Was he? Or was he just himself?

Though that felt weird cause they seemed close but she in the end wanted him dead? It all felt a little warped? honestly that ending was enough for me to quit. It was such an incoherent asspull.
He was a dick to her, but not in a way that I'd think she wanted him dead. The ending really confused me and made me like the show a lot less.
 
For a show set in hell it sure lacks of what makes hell hellish. This dimension is really not all that bad and to me seems like a pretty decent place to live. From what i've seen the worst of what is shown in Helluva Boss and Hazbin is just gang warfare and murder. But it's no worse than it is on earth. I thought this was supposed to be a place of eternal damnation and suffering not fucking Chicago.
Again, show TELLS doesn't SHOW.

Characters chilling in a cafe ranting about how it's literally the worst place on earth? It is the worst place on Earth.

Like when you go to Starbucks with your friends and they just rant about their relationship and job, and while it's clear that they're the bad ones in the situation, you just nodd and call the other party an asshole.
 
Again, show TELLS doesn't SHOW.

Characters chilling in a cafe ranting about how it's literally the worst place on earth? It is the worst place on Earth.

Like when you go to Starbucks with your friends and they just rant about their relationship and job, and while it's clear that they're the bad ones in the situation, you just nodd and call the other party an asshole.
Perfectly said, I think 90% of people still watching/keeping up are holding out hope that she finally shows her world instead of just telling it because that would make for an awesome watch. The few times she's done it in Hazbin have been awesome

I'm also guessing that Hazbin not being the millionth shitty Family Guy or Rick and Morty clone also contributes to its popularity
 
The pic captures the exact problem with it. She tries SO HARD to try to make everything sexy to her audience of 14 year olds, but the artstyle just doesn't work in its favor toward that, the characters are made out of basic-ass looking shapes, when you look at someone like Alastor and try to imagine what he looks like naked, you just imagine a geometry quiz but with a dick. Stella, Lilith, and MAAYBE Striker are the only characters I'd consider actually attractive.
I found Mrs. Mayberry attractive tbh. I don’t know. I guess it’s because she’s voiced by Ben Shapiro’s cousin.

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Disney story? Well, the latest Disney movies are fucking shit, so I guess it’s a fair comparison.
 
I found Mrs. Mayberry attractive tbh. I don’t know. I guess it’s because she’s voiced by Ben Shapiro’s cousin.

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Disney story? Well, the latest Disney movies are fucking shit, so I guess it’s a fair comparison.
Disney like story means like Disney+ and Calarts shows, where the original plotis dumped or forgotten about so the show can focus on anything else.

Take Amphibia, Owlhouse, Steven Universe, Star Vs, etc. they all have a similar pattern; show has a cool premise, wruter gets bored one episode in, and derails the main story arc into grand plot to save the world/pointless romance/lgbtq shit.
 
Perfectly said, I think 90% of people still watching/keeping up are holding out hope that she finally shows her world instead of just telling it because that would make for an awesome watch. The few times she's done it in Hazbin have been awesome

I'm also guessing that Hazbin not being the millionth shitty Family Guy or Rick and Morty clone also contributes to its popularity
I really believe the entirety of this show's popularity that doesn't come from an already existing fandom comes from the fact that it isn't a shitty remake of a different show, and has an actually unique artstyle, especially as an adult cartoon. Regardless of your opinion on the artstyle (I flip flop between liking it and hating it based on the character.) you can't deny that when you look at it you definitely think "Yeah, Viv made this".
 
I watched the Halloween 2019 pilot. I don't get the hype. Mostly the big question on my mind was "Is Jill Harris still married to Dallas Reid?".
 
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Time for a little insider info that I got from my professor. Amazon Prime is interested in two types of animated shows: pre-existing ips (no shit), and "fandom". What I mean by Fandom, is the stuff that gets popular over the internet. That's why Amazon Prime got in touch with Glitch about their show, "The Amazing Digital Circus". Because of now, they're most watched original animated show on Amazon Prime is Hazbin Hotel. Yes, it has even surpassed Invincible. Be shock as much as I was.
 
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