Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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But then gain, the LGBT community loves giving minors sexuality and neopronoun labels. Remember that Luca movie and how everyone said the two main characters, who were children, were gay for each other? We're still having people think children should ruin their bodies for the approval of adult men. Ech.

From my experience 90% of Luca fans on the internet are pedophiles and potential groomers using gay children as a shield.

Is Loona really bisexual? She only called Beezlebub hot once and I wouldn't say it's a determination that she's bisexual or anything.

She's wearing the bisexual flag on her skirt. It's the same colors on Moxie's face paint. You can say Vivzie failed to convey that, which she certainly did because Loona only exists to attract male coomers yes, but on the art she is supposed to be bisexual.
 
Just saw this while looking at the quote retweets from that Pride Parade tweet and all I have to say is that no one's killing themselves over this. The fact they censored cishet like it's some forbidden slur. Hah.

And of course, they're AroAce. Living up to the "straights/allos are so ICKY" trope with y'all people, I see.

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How cute, they think the horny furries and neckbeards are going to care.
 
Apparently there was recently a livestream done by Sam Haft, a guy who makes music for HH and HB. Some twitter user wrote down some notes about his statements in the livestream, and oh boy.
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Some notable examples are:
- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'
- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'
- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'
- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'
- 'Songs in season 2 are better'
- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'
- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'
- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'
- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'
- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'
- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'
- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'
- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Oh my God. Obligatory:
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Holy shit, this sounds fucking horrendous. I hope this wlll at least make everyone realize that the show has been garbage the whole time because this just takes everything wrong with the first season and makes it worse. I hope it tanks the show and it gets cancelled in the middle of Viv's planned 6 seasons.
 
There's too many people to reply to, so I'll just say what I got to say:

A friend that also criticizes the show sent this pic to me and asked "not trying to be a bigot here, but isn't it strange that almost every character in HB is part of the LGBT? It feels like they're pandering." And I answered, "no, you're right. They are absolutely pandering." I also mentioned to them that the only two straight people in that picture is Millie and Wally Wackford. Millie kind of makes sense there because she's married to Moxxie, but why is Wally there? Then I just realized that it doesn't have to do with sexuality: it more has to do with characters that Viv likes. Which is why Stella, Striker, and Crimson aren't there because she doesn't like them. (There's also Alessio who is Crimson's right-hand man sitting on a building way back in the background. Guess what? He gay, apparently)

I knew they would say Loona would be bi because of the Fandom shipping her with Beelzebub. It doesn't make any sense as she seemed to only have an interest in men, but whatever to make the shippers happy I suppose.

The succubi and incubi being pan makes sense I guess? Though pansexuality is basically bisexuality. People who are pan say it's different because they like "all the genders", but bi people say that too so...just fucking call it bi.

Of course Sallie May, the trans woman, is a lesbian. Can't have any actual women be lesbians because Viv doesn't like Yuri as much as she likes yaoi.

And while Mammon may be asexual, he could actually be demisexual, because of the way his clothes are design to look like the demi flag. Though it's stupid either way.

As someone who would be considered *ugh* "ace", I really have no idea why it's added to the LGBT communinty. It's just a lack of sexuality. Why does it need to be celebrated?
 
Not that I disagree but just so you know this image is an official Archie comic "Sonic the Hedgehog" issue #220 cover.
I knew it was actually from something official but whoever did that is sus to say the least. I mean Archie hired Ken Penders to do Sonic too, so I just assume anyone else who did Sonic was also some kind of absolute weirdo.
 
A friend that also criticizes the show sent this pic to me and asked "not trying to be a bigot here, but isn't it strange that almost every character in HB is part of the LGBT? It feels like they're pandering." And I answered, "no, you're right. They are absolutely pandering."
It's not the pandering as much as the obvious fetishization. Viv herself pretends to be bisexual, which is hilarious. You can't convince me this woman is remotely attracted to vaginas when there is such a blatant lack of female sexualization in the show. She's the caricature of that one "bisexual" girl in university who only dates guys and think Margot Robbie is hot, but she takes it a step further by using it as a shield against criticism.

People are slowly waking up to the realization the LGBT culture has been taken over by sexless queer autists and spicy straight women who use the labels to make their degenerate fetishes socially acceptable. Helluva Boss is the epitome of that, a straight woman wanking it to her fantasy of objectified oversexualized gay men. The show has absolutely zero eroticism, it's blatant fetish porn under the guise of gay rep.
 
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It's not the pandering as much as the obvious fetishization. Viv herself pretends to be bisexual, which is hilarious. You can't convince me this woman is remotely attracted to vaginas when there is such a blatant lack of female sexualization in the show. She's the caricature of that one "bisexual" girl in university who only dates guys and think Margot Robbie is hot, but she takes it a step further by using it as a shield against criticism.

People are slowly waking up to the realization the LGBT culture has been taken over by sexless queer autists and spicy straight women who use the labels to make their degenerate fetishes socially acceptable. Helluva Boss is the epitome of that, a straight woman wanking it to her fantasy of objectified oversexualized gay men. The show has absolutely zero eroticism, it's blatant fetish porn under the guise of gay rep.
I always wondered now and then how many cultural evils would be avoided if we just had arranged marriages for weirdo austists. I get they don't wanna fuck each other but lock them in a room long enough and I'm sure it would work itself out.
 
Just saw the South Park movie for its 25th anniversary screening.
If any Vivziepop character is a ripoff of South Park Satan, Stolas probably fits given how pathetic he is and the soap opera love life, except played completely straight whereas South Park made a joke of Satan being a loser
Naw. You know who Stolas is REALLY a ripoff of?
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Satan said:
It's Saddam. He doesn't nurture my emotions. He just wants sex, and can't learn to communicate.
Hmmm, now that does that sound familiar? Kenny's response?
Why don't you just fucking leave him?
And guess what happens after that? Does Satan flagrantly ignore his advice and "apologize" to Saddam in the end?
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No. He doesn't. Because firstly, as elaborated above, it's all a joke, and secondly, Trey Parker and Matt Stone are thinking, reasoning adults. Ironic, considering Viv cites South Park as one of her biggest inspirations. What she doesn't realize (because she never mentally matured past high school) is that all of the swearing and vulgar humor had a point; it was commentary on how freedom of speech is necessary and the hypocritical stances on what we can and can't do in media (a message that is sadly even MORE relevant now than it was 25 years ago).

Edit: hell, case in fucking point.
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Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!
Remember when, in Helluva's pilot, Blitzo called Moxxie retarded, and then, in the episode where Loona gets her rabies shot in Season 2, he starts to call the receptionist one, but stops short and says, "we can't say that word anymore"? Depicting a wolf mauling people is A-OK, but calling someone *gasp!* the R-WORD?! No no no no, that's too much!
 
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I'm glad Striker's not there on that godawful eyesore picture. I'm retarded enough to like a character or two from HB and Striker's my fave (though damn it's obvious that they have no idea what to do with him since every appearance he has he's just getting worse and stupider) and yeah, he wouldn't waste his time, effort or energy on some gaudy pride parade.

I was tilted when I checked out the merch for my retard friend's birthday and to my dismay, all the Striker shit was replaced with Chaz shit. Then it clicked in my brain: Chaz was made because they like Striker's design but he was too professional and not horny (at all, that joke where his statue had a massive boner was a leftover Chaz joke fight me)🧩 and ofc that doesn't fit in their uwu gayboi drama so they made Chaz to phase Striker out of the merch while keeping the same general design, not to mention create tension between Moxxie and Millie--

Oh wait scratch that. Create tension between Moxxie and his dad because Millie isn't a character and doesn't matter.

Edit: I didn't even realize that Stella's brother's colour palette is literally the gay-specific pride flag until this picture. Lame
 
Just saw this while looking at the quote retweets from that Pride Parade tweet and all I have to say is that no one's killing themselves over this. The fact they censored cishet like it's some forbidden slur. Hah.

And of course, they're AroAce. Living up to the "straights/allos are so ICKY" trope with y'all people, I see.

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Censoring words as if they are curses. And they had the galls to call old ladies born in 1910s-1930s pearl clutchers.
 
Saw some theory that Stella's brother is only gay because Vivzie saw people shipping him with Stella unironically due to his "incestuous vibes" and this is her attempt of damage control and i kinda believe it... I kinda feel bad that i can't give vivzie the benefit of doubt at anything anymore geez...

I was tilted when I checked out the merch for my retard friend's birthday and to my dismay, all the Striker shit was replaced with Chaz shit. Then it clicked in my brain: Chaz was made because they like Striker's design but he was too professional and not horny (at all, that joke where his statue had a massive boner was a leftover Chaz joke fight me)🧩 and ofc that doesn't fit in their uwu gayboi drama so they made Chaz to phase Striker out of the merch while keeping the same general design, not to mention create tension between Moxxie and Millie--

Can you show us some of that? Vivzie pushing Chaz on merch and lgbt rep is confusing/funny considering he's a terrible person who's obcessed with dicks and died with no cerimony. I assume he has a notable fanbase somehow (probably shippers).
 
Saw some theory that Stella's brother is only gay because Vivzie saw people shipping him with Stella unironically due to his "incestuous vibes" and this is her attempt of damage control and i kinda believe it... I kinda feel bad that i can't give vivzie the benefit of doubt at anything anymore geez...
I'd say I'm amazed she went there and didn't fully embrace the incest people were hot for...but she wasn't impressed by beatbox boys 50k commission of Charlie either. So there's some sense of dignity left on vivvian mango rice. I'm just so tired of this show and it's a shame I had high hopes for vivian but she's become just as much a blowhard as Alex Hirsch, danna Terrance and all the others. I think I'd rather watch Mr birches than this crap.
 
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