Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[didelphigina]

Considering her fanbase used Eugenics to describe us critics. She thinks they are "babies and subhumans" so therefore. Fizz is also a retard and can't take care of himself. IIRC he lost ONE arm and has a prosthetic, He can feed his ass himself. Babying mentally ill people is retarded because we drag tf out of retards on this forum. Retards can take care of themselves. Unless they can't and need assistance. But Fizz isn't mentally impaired he's a grown man.

One arm? Nah, dude lost all his limbs. He's a literal quadriplegic, man. There's a reason all of his limbs are mechanical. I still can't believe he forgave Blitz so easily for rendering him disabled like that. He's not only just an infantilized gay dude, but he's a disabled infantilized gay dude who talks and acts no different from your stereotypical yaoi twink character that these supposed people keep saying they're against! You see the babied gay twink character everywhere and no one judges it unless that character's done by a controversial creator (that creator being Vivziepop) or a franchise/piece of media a lot of people collectively hate.

These types only will criticize something if the person behind the characters are terrible or if the franchise/piece of media they consume is terrible. We all know this.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

One arm? Nah, dude lost all his limbs. He's a literal quadriplegic, man. There's a reason all of his limbs are mechanical. I still can't believe he forgave Blitz so easily for rendering him disabled like that. He's not only just an infantilized gay dude, but he's a disabled infantilized gay dude who talks acts no different from your stereotypical yaoi twink character that these supposed people keep saying they're against! You see the babied gay twink everywhere and no one judges it unless that character's done by a controversial creator (that creator being Vivziepop).

These types only will criticize something if the person behind the characters are terrible. We all know this.

Oh, I couldn't see that shit, I am blind. Now that's even worse. Iirc Ozzie also helped him with giving those limbs. I mean I don't like babying disabled characters especially when irl disabled people explicitly want to be treated normally. Fizz doesn't even acknowledge his disability but acts like a child who wants his pancakes. It gives off the vibe that Fizz faked his disability to have some poor smuck like Ozzie "I don't care if my underlings rape people, but I also like consent" Lust. It seems like the relationship is DDLG but for males (DDLB? Is that a thing?)

I've seen a lot of scrutiny with others who do this a lot of times, but oftentimes the people sweep the shit under the rug or the person isn't "big enough" when's the last time that Boyfriends Webtoon was ever brought up?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I mean, I flirt with my fucking homies all the time, and I don't love them.

Nigga are you in the closet or some shit, between the gay porn you posted and this, you are a fucking fag man

 

[Gondolindrim]

Ironically it felt like Season 1 of Helluva Boss was going for that as even while there was moments where Stolas was treated with Sympathy, he still was presented as a jerk and Blitzo's feelings were portrayed sympathetically.

Season 2 jumped the ball hard whether it was Brandon or Viv, I have no idea

Seasons 1 and 2 are night and day. It's really bizarre to see a show fall off that quickly, even Smiling Friends had a better season 2 and that was....less good.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Nigga are you in the closet or some shit, between the gay porn you posted and this, you are a fucking fag man

I am gay, but not interested in furry porn or whatever. But like as I say, not all flirting is supposed to mean you're interested in someone.

It has the same connotations as "If that kid bullies you [it] means they like you!" It's some stupid message that doesn't need to exist yet some people can and will chalk it as such (Before people continue with the "Muh porn posting" no, I dont have it anymore and no, I'm not interested in that shit and I moved on from that discussion for a reason.) But my point was in regards to the fact that people insist that flirting = interest. Not to speculate if I am in the closet because I joke with my friends all the time.

There's a huge difference between joke flirting and literal flirting and Stolas was being a horny fucker. That was my point. Not some inane implication I was in the closet for posting gay porn??? Sure it was weird of me to mention offhandly about it (I later regret it.) but like still man. This isn't about that, it's about the implications and miscommunication that the idiot kids will take away.

Seasons 1 and 2 are night and day. It's really bizarre to see a show fall off that quickly, even Smiling Friends had a better season 2 and that was....less good.

Oh be careful, I heard someone loses their shit over if you mention S1 is better than S2. But seriously. People think S2 is better than S1 that they would fly into tard rage regarding if you claim that the show was better in S1. I mean it's gotten to the point a drunk nearing 40 year old drove a car to a ex fans mothers job over it.

 

[Niggerphobe]

I wonder what are the rules for demons going to earth like does heaven have kill squads for demons on earth or do they not really care

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

I wonder what are the rules for demons going to earth like does heaven have kill squads for demons on earth or do they not really care

I mean iirc C.H.E.R.U.B.S are the counterpart to I.M.P so of course in both shows there is a inverse representation of the other. Much like how Emily is mirrored as Charlie... So assume the 7 Deadly Sins are mirrored by the Heavenly Virtues. I can dig with a mirrored Heaven/Hell but can Viv pull it off?

 

[Catboi]

I mean iirc C.H.E.R.U.B.S are the counterpart to I.M.P so of course in both shows there is a inverse representation of the other. Much like how Emily is mirrored as Charlie... So assume the 7 Deadly Sins are mirrored by the Heavenly Virtues. I can dig with a mirrored Heaven/Hell but can Viv pull it off?

That implies Vivzie knows enough about religion beyond edgy satan memes to actually know what the 7 Heavenly Virtues are

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

That implies Vivzie knows enough about religion beyond edgy satan memes to actually know what the 7 Heavenly Virtues are

Right, right. Apparently I've been seeing that Gabriel exists in HH but I don't even know how much that true is that.

 

[Kid Named Rocket]

aw hell naw, yo ass tweakin, Jigsaw

 

[The tired cat]

Right, right. Apparently I've been seeing that Gabriel exists in HH but I don't even know how much that true is that.

Viv seems to have a very scattered on whom from Heaven is in her show and who aint. Like, she kept saying how there wont be anyone besides Sera, Emily and Adam in Heaven. Then boom! Suddenly Abel and Mettatron pop out like jack in a box. Gabriel is mostly a "cameo" as one can briefly spot his name on Lucifers phone (along with Michael and Azriel I think), but whether that means they'll appear or these were just cute jokes? Fuck I know. Same for the big Gman himself, Viv jackhammered he wont be in the show, but for all we know he suddenly returns from vacation along with Jesus.

But, this goes back to her stealing ideas from fans, I wont be surprised if she DID see art of Mettatron, Abel and then decided to shove 'em in. Hell, wont be shocked if Gabriel and Michael will also pop up because of how many fan versions of them are there, same with God (though most popular one is him having a sort of showman apperance with a large hat and four eyes floating beside him)

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Viv seems to have a very scattered on whom from Heaven is in her show and who aint. Like, she kept saying how there wont be anyone besides Sera, Emily and Adam in Heaven. Then boom! Suddenly Abel and Mettatron pop out like jack in a box. Gabriel is mostly a "cameo" as one can briefly spot his name on Lucifers phone (along with Michael and Azriel I think), but whether that means they'll appear or these were just cute jokes? Fuck I know. Same for the big Gman himself, Viv jackhammered he wont be in the show, but for all we know he suddenly returns from vacation along with Jesus.

But, this goes back to her stealing ideas from fans, I wont be surprised if she DID see art of Mettatron, Abel and then decided to shove 'em in. Hell, wont be shocked if Gabriel and Michael will also pop up because of how many fan versions of them are there, same with God (though most popular one is him having a sort of showman apperance with a large hat and four eyes floating beside him)

Ironically we do have a Speaker of God so that's a possibility God exists. But the funny thing about the fandesigns, it was made by @atasteofheaven/@_voidseeker who afaik worked for the merch designs on Hazbin Hotel. They are specifically against people stealing their "heaven designs" and I think it would be legendary if Viv decides to use that God as a means to steal from an artist who worked to make a somewhat noticeable character.

Another thing, is the Journey Of The Light and other adjacent Wikias, that had done the rewrites before, just like with the current wikia JOTL Wikia is locked to the core so you can't edit unless your a Janny, there's rumors the creator of the FF is actually a writer on MLP dunno if that's true, the fanfiction is the wikia and you have to search through it to find it.

 

[The tired cat]

@atasteofheaven/@_voidseeker who afaik worked for the merch designs on Hazbin Hotel. They are specifically against people stealing their "heaven designs" and I think it would be legendary if Viv decides to use that God as a means to steal from an artist who worked to make a somewhat noticeable character.

I can see Viv trying to pull it off, maybe giving a design a slight "tweak" to make sure she aint fully caught.

Another thing, is the Journey Of The Light and other adjacent Wikias, that had done the rewrites before, just like with the current wikia JOTL Wikia is locked to the core so you can't edit unless your a Janny, there's rumors the creator of the FF is actually a writer on MLP dunno if that's true, the fanfiction is the wikia and you have to search through it to find it.

Thats an interesting theory, havent seen much proof myself. But, that wikia/fic still feels like it has more stakes and better concepts that half baked stuff Viv tossed around, but didnt develope.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Thats an interesting theory, havent seen much proof myself. But, that wikia/fic still feels like it has more stakes and better concepts that half baked stuff Viv tossed around, but didnt develope.

Ironically enough, the stans hate it. I've noticed that it has to do with concepts that they deemed "too weird" and that the story doesn't make sense. The things I saw Viv stole was:

- Lilith being either Eve in her body forced to live bicuriously thorough Lilith and that Lilith has to uplift Hell with her music to keep Charlie safe (According to what Vox said briefly in the Leaks)
- Speaker of God existing

 

[The tired cat]

Ironically enough, the stans hate it. I've noticed that it has to do with concepts that they deemed "too weird" and that the story doesn't make sense. The things I saw Viv stole was:

- Lilith being either Eve in her body forced to live bicuriously thorough Lilith and that Lilith has to uplift Hell with her music to keep Charlie safe (According to what Vox said briefly in the Leaks)
- Speaker of God existing

Which is hilarious, cause when ya break it down, Vivs own creation doesnt make much sense and several of her concepts are like "Wait, how does this work even?", bur course they wont question her. Frankly, part of me is happy I aint popular for the stans to notice me, my shit would prob made their heads explode.

 

[The tired cat]

Sorry for the double post, just a thought crossed my mind. Does it feel like Adam might be based on another person Viv had beef with in the past? Since according to the doc, Pentious was based of her ex-friend whom she mocked over how he looked and dressed, while the weeb girl in the short was based of another person. So, I cant shake this feeling that Adam is also someone from Vivs life that crossed her.

 

[Wulfering]

Sorry for the double post, just a thought crossed my mind. Does it feel like Adam might be based on another person Viv had beef with in the past? Since according to the doc, Pentious was based of her ex-friend whom she mocked over how he looked and dressed, while the weeb girl in the short was based of another person. So, I cant shake this feeling that Adam is also someone from Vivs life that crossed her.

I hear multiple times that Adam is based in a ex of her from different parts of the fandom and that viv wanted to humiliate him even more but people hold her back.
From where this people in the fandom get this information? I don't know, only think that i noticed is that this idea is know (and saw as a 'fact') through people from different parts of the fandom that don't interreact with each other.

 

[The Nothingness]

Vivzie is such a coward that Asmodeus, the lust incarnate, preaches consent and loyal monogamy

That was a big retcon of the character from his first appearance. Recall that in Season 1, Moxxie and Millie were ridiculed by Asmodeus for celebrating their first wedding anniversary. Vivzie could not do something that was actually unique with having a heterosexual couple committed to one another while open and unrestrained sexual activities is the norm of their world.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Viv seems to have a very scattered on whom from Heaven is in her show and who aint. Like, she kept saying how there wont be anyone besides Sera, Emily and Adam in Heaven. Then boom! Suddenly Abel and Mettatron pop out like jack in a box. Gabriel is mostly a "cameo" as one can briefly spot his name on Lucifers phone (along with Michael and Azriel I think), but whether that means they'll appear or these were just cute jokes? Fuck I know. Same for the big Gman himself, Viv jackhammered he wont be in the show, but for all we know he suddenly returns from vacation along with Jesus.

But, this goes back to her stealing ideas from fans, I wont be surprised if she DID see art of Mettatron, Abel and then decided to shove 'em in. Hell, wont be shocked if Gabriel and Michael will also pop up because of how many fan versions of them are there, same with God (though most popular one is him having a sort of showman apperance with a large hat and four eyes floating beside him)

I won't be surprised if she says "I've changed my mind, he'll be in the show after all". Because this concept of duality needs to exist I guess?

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

I hear multiple times that Adam is based in a ex of her from different parts of the fandom and that viv wanted to humiliate him even more but people hold her back.
From where this people in the fandom get this information? I don't know, only think that i noticed is that this idea is know (and saw as a 'fact') through people from different parts of the fandom that don't interreact with each other.

DollCreep afaik came out about it from digging. But DC is so ospec and inspec that he's not able to be found online to investigate and ask further more.

Chai had alleged both him and Viv of doing Shota ERP so...