Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I'm wondering how S3 of Helluva can fuck things up even more, there's still a couple characters that miraculously managed to slip through S2 relatively unscathed such as Octavia.
Its quite simple

Stella is going to double down on being irredeemably evil

Octavia is likely going to accept Stolas' relationship and apologize for not understanding anything.

Stolas will somehow be the victim in all of this.
 
Since we are sharing our grievances with the way series Charlie is portrayed, I want to share a pet peeve of mine:
For some reason and we can see it in your pics, they decided to give her some kind of bags under her eyes and I absolutely hate it.
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They're such a minor detail and she doesn't have them all the time but I found it such a unnecessary detail, though I will admit that there's moments where it adds to her expression.
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Actually, seeing you pic and comparing with these 2 I think my main problem is that it always makes her look scared even in scenes where she's not supposed to show that emotion.
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Curiously I wanted to compare to pilot Charlie and I found out that she also has bags in certain scenes.
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But notice how much softer they are compared to the official show.
Show!Charlie looks way more evil than Pilot!Charlie if you ask me. It's an odd design choice to draw attention to her eyes and fangs.
 
Ya know, dont think this was brought up. But, when ya see Adam without his mask, he kinda gives this very tired and worn out look. Like, sure hes behaving like a fratboy/rockstar, but the five o'clock shadow, the dark circles under his eyes. It kinda gives an impression this guy barely sleeps, like he almost tries to avoid it for any way possible.
 
Ya know, dont think this was brought up. But, when ya see Adam without his mask, he kinda gives this very tired and worn out look. Like, sure hes behaving like a fratboy/rockstar, but the five o'clock shadow, the dark circles under his eyes. It kinda gives an impression this guy barely sleeps, like he almost tries to avoid it for any way possible.
I'd love to see an exploration of how much the weight of being the First Man and all that entailed fucked with him, especially combined with the fact that Abel is a main character in S2.

But we all know Adam is never being a real character and is just an outlet for Vivzie to pwn da cishet white menz.
 
But we all know Adam is never being a real character and is just an outlet for Vivzie to pwn da cishet white menz.
I dunno how true this is, but apparently reason Adam was reworked from his elder dragon apperance, was because this version is based off another EX BF or friend of Vivs. Which, holy fuck girl, what are ya Ramon Flowers? You got THREE characters based of your ex'es.
 
Ya know, dont think this was brought up. But, when ya see Adam without his mask, he kinda gives this very tired and worn out look. Like, sure hes behaving like a fratboy/rockstar, but the five o'clock shadow, the dark circles under his eyes. It kinda gives an impression this guy barely sleeps, like he almost tries to avoid it for any way possible.
I mean, he himself never takes off the mask; even when he's in Heaven. So I could very much believe that he is self-loathing and hides it all under a mask (look symbolism wow). Especially if the theory of the other exorcists were created in Heaven and are not former humans, which I believe to be the case, he is just a man compared to these holier beings.

Plus, I wonder if Adam was drastically different before the exterminations. We don't know when these started mind you. Could it be argued that going down to Hell every year to slaughter Sinners could slowly corrupt a person and bring out their sinful nature? That seems to be the case for a lot of these Sinners. Because this kind of environment let's them and even encourages them to be the worst that they can be. Why can't the same be said for Adam?
 
I dunno how true this is, but apparently reason Adam was reworked from his elder dragon apperance, was because this version is based off another EX BF or friend of Vivs. Which, holy fuck girl, what are ya Ramon Flowers? You got THREE characters based of your ex'es.
Wait, there were more? I knew Adam was one (which Viv made him more cooler then the protagonist, good job), what was the others?
 
Wait, there were more? I knew Adam was one (which Viv made him more cooler then the protagonist, good job), what was the others?
Pentious is apparently is based of another ex or friend who had a thing for Steampunk stuff, so snake boi getting SA'ed was her way getting back at him. An third being Valentino, whos also based of her ex whom she claimed she had a bad past with.
 
Pentious is apparently is based of another ex or friend who had a thing for Steampunk stuff, so snake boi getting SA'ed was her way getting back at him. An third being Valentino, whos also based of her ex whom she claimed she had a bad past with.
Wasn't Charlie's ex also considered to be based on another ex of Viv's?
 
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Pentious is apparently is based of another ex or friend who had a thing for Steampunk stuff, so snake boi getting SA'ed was her way getting back at him. An third being Valentino, whos also based of her ex whom she claimed she had a bad past with.
I wonder if Pentious "sin" as a massive coward was also intentional or not?

It says a lot that people that probably have the 'tism are more aware of how garbage the writing is


Mind as well post another video I found, one of the people say on reddit that he supports fascism, so it must be good.


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I'd love to see an exploration of how much the weight of being the First Man and all that entailed fucked with him, especially combined with the fact that Abel is a main character in S2.

But we all know Adam is never being a real character and is just an outlet for Vivzie to pwn da cishet white menz.
I have an impression that Abel was a punching bag to Adam. And he now can be free to be a fudge packer alongside Peter.
I mean, he himself never takes off the mask; even when he's in Heaven. So I could very much believe that he is self-loathing and hides it all under a mask (look symbolism wow). Especially if the theory of the other exorcists were created in Heaven and are not former humans, which I believe to be the case, he is just a man compared to these holier beings.

Plus, I wonder if Adam was drastically different before the exterminations. We don't know when these started mind you. Could it be argued that going down to Hell every year to slaughter Sinners could slowly corrupt a person and bring out their sinful nature? That seems to be the case for a lot of these Sinners. Because this kind of environment let's them and even encourages them to be the worst that they can be. Why can't the same be said for Adam?
Time must have changed him for the worst too. I can't imagine him being too happy on losing Eve to Lucifruity and Rosie being just there.
 
I feel like we're all forgetting the best part: This one is SUPPOSED to be a Vivzie self-insert and she still uses it as an icon. That's a lot more damning than all the others.

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Too bad we don't have a fat fujo (unless you see fat Charlie, or Peter Griffin as Charlie) or Amberlynn, which is Vivianne making fun of herself.
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