Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Them: "Ctinge culture bad! Let people crush on fictional characters!"

Also them: Verbalase bad.

Charlie is of legal age and is also attracted to men. Why were they so worked up over a drawing?
Because Verbalase spent $50,000 of money his fans gave him that he promised was for his projects on a self insert animation of Charlie wanting to fuck him.
 
I like how this shot of Charlie caused people to suddenly "understand" verbalase

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Oh my god, they actually have her eyelid behind her hair. I know this is probably a nitpick but I really do hate it when her eyelid is clipping over her hair. It just looks like her left eye is floating when they draw it that way. 13.webp
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Oh my god, they actually have her eyelid behind her hair. I know this is probably a nitpick but I really do hate it when her eyelid is clipping over her hair. It just looks like her left eye is floating View attachment 7297133

when they draw it that way.

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Not to defend, but I think the reason that doesn't bother me or why I don't notice, is because Vaggie already has her eye over hair, I get this is a design trend because it's difficult to express characters emotion while having long hair, but there is a point where your putting more effort then needed.
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I wish more people do hair over eye while expressing emotion at the same art.
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Not to defend, but I think the reason that doesn't bother me or why I don't notice, is because Vaggie already has her eye over hair, I get this is a design trend because it's difficult to express characters emotion while having long hair, but there is a point where your putting more effort then needed.

I wish more people do hair over eye while expressing emotion at the same art.
The thing is with those examples you showed me, the hair is still over the eyes. The opacity has just been lowered.

The problem I have with Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss (cause they both do it) is the fact that it's not some stylistic choice. It's inconsistent. Helluva Boss especially, as season 1 didn't have much of this issue. And if it was just a bit of the eye, like the eyelash, I wouldn't get so annoyed. But when it's half or more, then that's when it becomes very distracting for me. Fuck, they're making more work for themselves when they're animating the entire eye over the hair.HB-S2-E10-Loona_15.webpLoona_Eye_and_Brow_Fix_5.webp
I know that this is HB and not HH, but I'm using Loona as an example for these shows as she has become the most egregious out of all the characters. You get the same amount of emotion, but now with the bonus of not having her hair clip through her entire eye. Again, I know I'm being a bit nitpicky, but I just think it looks better that way.

And with Vaggie's "X" going over her hair, I was never a big fan of that even back in the pilot days. I get that is a stylistic choice but the fact that the X is supposed to be on the eyepatch she's wearing, it's really just distracting to me. It just makes me think the X is just floating over her face instead of being a part of an accessory.
 
Hornyjohn has to be a child or autistic because it is so fucking common for people to make hate, slander, or death art of fictional characters regardless if it was someone's favorite.
Exactly. This is such embarasssingly immature doublethink. What about the ancient tradition of personal sketchbooks full of mickey/bambi/carebear/spongebob porn and/or gore that entry-level animators doodled while waiting to start their own studio? "This Stolas sketch is so offensive" your fat (there's no way any of these people aren't fat) safe-edgy face sure loved laughing at Chuck Jones fans or Christians when it was their favourite character getting axe-murdered. God, Viv's fans are such gigantic pussies that they almost cancel out the gay male sex in her shows. edit: ninja'd (ten days ago)
I wish more people do hair over eye while expressing emotion at the same art.
You're right - the examples with the covered eye look so much more present in terms of form. The character is jumping off the page the way an animator should want in a cartoon or tv show vs. a fine art image. They look way better and are easier to focus on for the viewer.
Really, is it hard to give someone a benefit of a doubt?
You're a fucking furry.
rs. Teacher - She just wanted the woman that her husband cheated with to be killed out of anger for that woman being seen as a heroic survivor. The rest of the family got killed due to police incompetence, and somehow she dates the woman she wanted to kill for no reason???
Let me explain this using Viv Logic. If she "hates" another woman, it really is because she's just jealous. Same as when she "hates" a man - really she wants to fuck him and is butthurt that he's out of her league. To her, Mrs. Teacher is actually behaving completely normally, and in the way that Viv thinks all women operate. She dates the woman she wanted to kill because she never really wanted to kill her - just like Viv never really hated the cheerleaders, she just wanted to be in their group. Viv is the kind of woman who is ruining it for the rest of us and is no more feminist than Jim-Bob Duggar.
 
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It just looks like her left eye is floating when they draw it that way.
Unseeable.
To her, Mrs. Teacher is actually behaving completely normally, and in the way that Viv thinks all women operate. She dates the woman she wanted to kill because she never really wanted to kill her - just like Viv never really hated the cheerleaders, she just wanted to be in their group.
Yet another ruined character. She was my second favorite client, next only to Loopty Goopty. It would be nice if I.M.P. still had clients.

Vivz is pretty good at creating characters but somehow insists on ruining them. Having a Client of the Week would prevent this to some extent. She started out with a nearly perfect episodic comedy format. And then ruined it.

It's frustrating watching this whole thing deteriorate into total stupidity and idiotic crack ships.
 
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>Pansexual
Meaningless word for what is just materially bisexuality, "it's not the same ackhually, bisexual means someone who won't bang you if you don't identify as a man or a woman :smug:", sure, whatever.
Why is Husk pan by the way? He should be the asexual one of the cast, he's literally an antisocial, lonely bartender.

>Pentious, Lucifer are not straight
Sure Jan, one is married to a woman, the other is written like a shy straight dork guy, but they are totes not straight though.

>Velvette is a lesbo
You would think the Vees being polyamorus is somewhat canon given Vox and Valentino are not straight and the three of them are degenerates, but it's a Vivzie's show and god forbid a woman is shown in between two males.

>Nifty is the only straight one and is a #ally
"Yeah uh Nifty would never never never never never call anyone a faggot, she's a homicidal maniac not a BIGOT #check-mates"
 
Lucifer after Charlie introduces Vaggie: "You like women? Me too!"

And that line is no longer canon just like the pilot.
Being pansexual includes being attracted to women. I doubt he'll ever even show attraction to anything but women.
Luci is probably gonna be a Dumbledore situation where the creator swears he's into dudes, but it all happens offscreen.
 
:smug:", sure, whatever.
Why is Husk pan by the way? He should be the asexual one of the cast, he's literally an antisocial, lonely bartender.
I agree with this. Make him either asexual, or if they want him to be like that just make him bisexual. In the time period it wouldn't make much sense for pansexuality. I think even being bisexual would of been a thing yet. So it would be interesting for him being the "younger" ones being in the 80's or so.
Which was the most progressive of time periods, though they would be somewhat bigoted.

But it would add alot to world building as no one else in the main crew is that "young". Having Husk be a black closeted bisexual guy, who gives off the vibe that he would rather stare you down then ask you out for a drink.

It would also add alot to the character to not be a standard Vivziepop guy. As there has been some very usubtle hints about his preference of sexuality in the show. When he has his little shoot out with AngelDust where he's looking him up like a freak (legs, body, then AngelDusts face) unintentionally mirroring how the audience/camera of the show views AngelDust. ((Which sort of ruins the relationship idea if Husk is also now eyeing him up like everyone else. )) How he helps him hang up a tiny sign, and how the show itself keeps trying to tease Huskerdust on X.
 
Why is Husk pan by the way? He should be the asexual one of the cast, he's literally an antisocial, lonely bartender.

>Nifty is the only straight one and is a #ally
"Yeah uh Nifty would never never never never never call anyone a faggot, she's a homicidal maniac not a BIGOT #check-mates"
Word on the street is that Huskerdust is going to be canon (I didn't see all of the leaks so I don't know for sure). Also exactly, kek if Niffty is supposed to be a Japanese housewife from the 1950s she definitely wouldn't have been chill with all of the gay shit.
 
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