Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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I can't blame her for the owl thing. Owls are cool.
It also helps that the Stolas in actual mythology IS portrayed as an owl as well, so yeah I can't blame her... this time.

As dumb as it may sound, my initial thought for why he was a bird was because he was a stool pigeon.
I thought his design was straight up inspired by the barn owl, and if you know anything about those guys...


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Another one

Mimzy

So for this one I went for a different approach. Out of all of the designs and characters she is the most nothing.. All I could find was. She was made to be Alastors crush, is a greedy flapper and now some how a chicken.

Old design

Didn’t like her color palette, its too similar to the others.
She doesn't have chicken features.
I do like her body type, but it should be pushed more.
Not much backstory.

New design

Gave her a muted color scheme that also matches with Alastor in the timeperiod.
Gave her a unique shading style.
Made her look more chicken like.
Played with her body more.
Toned down her patterns.
Added barbed wire.



Storywise

She was a flapper who was working with the Mafia specifically Anthony's. It was a mafia hide out underground that pretended to be a bar.

She would listen to Alastor on the radio and was a fan girl, she would write him messages that he would read on air.

She was very lonely with work. People make fun of her because of her ticks which sound like clucks.

She was the star dancer and would gloat that even without her head she could dance. She was a incredible.

She was undercover snitch and when cops would come she would tell them their plans and such. Getting tons of cops killed, and other innocent people.

She is a greedy coward rat who will do anything for a little dough.

A detective come in to see if the allegations were true. Giving the wrong information on a sting, which Mimzy rated on them with the wrong information.

The cops do a completely different plan resulting in alot of the mob getting killed and the place ransacked.

Mimzy makes it away, and the remaining mob goes after her.

They don't like to have loose strings. they threaten her to keep dancing, and because of her cowardice and cut off her head like just to prove she could do it.

In hell she comes back as a chicken (coward/her pride.)

She eventually meets Alastor down there and is smittened. Alastor remembers her and is sort of happy (as she is a fragment of the time period when the world keeps changing.)

She immediately pledged her alliance to him, all she asks is his company.

Alastor of course is just using her agrees. They have a toxic codependent relationship.

Her head is detachable she can use both her head and body independently. (A reference to the art of Viv made of a character that looks very surprising to Mimzy.

She leaves her head around to listen in on conversations.

She can dance without her head.



This one was fun she's also just a background character so I didn't care too much about her. If you guys have anyother stuff to add to it go for it, I dont care too much about her, or her story or anything again she's sort of a nothing character like the other three.

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As dumb as it may sound, my initial thought for why he was a bird was because he was a stool pigeon. But, Viv went with owl because those look cooler.
I honestly thought he was supposed to be a raven or crow. Granted I doubt even Viv had an idea what this character's species was supposed to be and just went for "something bird-like" because...because. Speaking of bird-like:
I will never find it not funny that the whole Mimzy being designed after a chicken was Viv's half-assed excuse for when people were accusing Mimzy of being a Jewish stereotype.
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You didn't have to mention the chicken thing Viv. It just makes you look stupid. Granted, Asmodeus is also supposed to resemble a rooster and we see how he turned out.tumblr_a30c1acb7d45a650bc32e4cd60a3f8ee_52979e02_2048.webp

Also fun fact, both Travis and Mimzy are New Yorkers who died in the 1920s while they were in their 30s. I don't know why I needed to mention this; I just wanted to.
 
This one was fun she's also just a background character so I didn't care too much about her. If you guys have anyother stuff to add to it go for it, I dont care too much about her, or her story or anything again she's sort of a nothing character like the other three.
Holy shit I had no idea Mimzy was supposed to be a chicken. That's one of the easiest birds to give aspects to a character. I didn't give a shit about Mimzy when I watched the show. I really like the redesign and how she was incorporated into multiple character's backstories. A lot of the show's characters feel isolated from their background or time period.
I will never find it not funny that the whole Mimzy being designed after a chicken was Viv's half-assed excuse for when people were accusing Mimzy of being a Jewish stereotype

Also LMAO at people seeing a character with a big nose and immediately going "Jewish". I thought it was incorrect to say things like that. 🤔
 
If Mimzy is based on a chicken, why not make her more like what happened to the main villain in 1932 film Freaks? She would at least look more like the animal she's supposed to be and visual jokes could have been made.
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Cause according to spindlehorse this...
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Has more "appeal" than this.
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Didn't she allude to them being incestuous? Odd as in the show they were never shown as such or even hinting at it. They just come off as cheap imitations of two other sister demons I know that are way better..

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I will forever believe these two demons would've been better companions to Brief than the Angel duo ever will.
 
Imagine waking up surrounded by edgy sparkledog OCs after going to Hell. I'd kill myself.
Suicide is expensive in Hell. The only way to die for good is via angelic steel. So you either have to stay free until Extermination Day or somehow get enough money to afford one of Carmilla's weapons.

And considering she has a monopol on that stuff, her prices are likely to be just shy of extortion.
 
Suicide is expensive in Hell. The only way to die for good is via angelic steel. So you either have to stay free until Extermination Day or somehow get enough money to afford one of Carmilla's weapons.

And considering she has a monopol on that stuff, her prices are likely to be just shy of extortion.
Another animated show did the monetized suicide joke a lot better than Viv ever could.
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Cause according to spindlehorse this...
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Has more "appeal" than this.
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I do very much like that comparison. I actually did use this as a bit of a refrence to her redesign.

But, I didn't know how much I should push Mimzy. As she is so... Nothing. I felt like it might havs been too much if her crimes were tamer compared to the other demons I've done. Because at that point I feel like you would be signaling her out as the only fat one, to make her just a creature to be shot in the back of the head like an animal. My goal is the more monsterous the crimes are the more animal like they become. If they do things truly unforgivable, then they get warped alot more. (Valentino, Alastor, Vox.)
 
Another animated show did the monetized suicide joke a lot better than Viv ever could.
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I totally agree. It would be funny if it was a Sinner scam where Sinners try to kill themselves, but because its not an angelic machine it temporarily kills them. They regenerate and want their money back but it states no refunds and that actually now they are in crippling debt. Wally Wackford could of patented that machine the old men in hell make.

But she's way too soft for that.
 
The only character this could really work with is Alastor. I'm surprised there isn't much in the way of 1920s rubber-hose Fleischer-cartoon style fanart or animations of Alastor.

Edit: after a quick google search it DOES exist, I'm just surprised I haven't seen more of it. I like this one of Husk as King Dice

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I do very much like that comparison. I actually did use this as a bit of a refrence to her redesign.

But, I didn't know how much I should push Mimzy. As she is so... Nothing. I felt like it might havs been too much if her crimes were tamer compared to the other demons I've done. Because at that point I feel like you would be signaling her out as the only fat one, to make her just a creature to be shot in the back of the head like an animal. My goal is the more monsterous the crimes are the more animal like they become. If they do things truly unforgivable, then they get warped alot more. (Valentino, Alastor, Vox.)
I can kinda see what Viv is saying in her design being bird/chicken like. The feather like eyelashes, the hair feathers, the beak like nose, and her portly body maybe evoking the shambling gait a chicken, particularly a modern one raised for meat would have.

But I'm reminded of Marvel's villian the jackal. Tell me how does THIS:
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Equate to this?
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Same design flaw with mimzy. Maybe a few superficial details like the ones I mentioned at best evoke "chicken" at least give her a feather boa, make her fingers more like talons, and give her tail feathers. Something that conveys chicken better...again how is Vivzie and spindlehorse so bad at conveying details in their work?....oh right because they're too busy waving the rainbow flags long after everyone else stopped caring. To focus on writing/character design.
 
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