Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Finally watched the 4th episode. Fully agree with @samuraicrack on it. The concept in itself was pretty good, but holy shite, all that "evil rich capitalist" bollocks and poor execution completely buried it.

Something subjective: what I found also eye-cutting is how they seemingly tried to portray IMPs in a somewhat more right than CHERUBs, who even have beurocratic tossers as higher ups. Okay, I get it, IMPs are main protagonists and CHERUBs are annoying shits, but why does it look like the former, a bunch of chaotic and mental hypocrits who will kill pretty much anyone for cash and fun, which seems to be the only thing they care about, need to be sympathised more with, while the latter are supposed to be viewed as nothing, but annoying stupid hippity-happity dumbasses?

I am also starting to notice that it's really not progressing much in terms of humor. It's so bland and repetitive that even new Simpsons episodes are blushing.

Also, pretty ironic for Vivienne and co to push the preaching about evil capitalists who give no shits about the poor. (yes, greedy trillionaire who gives no fucks is something on a different level, but still)
 
How the fuck Charlie will make her "successful redeemed demons" be legitimate in the eyes of heaven? This thought had to be fly in her head before burning daddy's trust fund money for building hotel.
For all we know, her plan was: "1. Built Hotel. 2. Keep sinners safe during exterminations. 3. Make sinners less sinful. 4. ???? 5. REDEMPTION FOR EVERYONE!" I mean, her idea of redeeming sinners isn't even bad. Making the people less awful to each other would make the Pride circle as a whole less terrible.

It's just that for all we know, this specific Hell is already mostly empty because Jesus marshed through it to save anyone who repents, with only those with the Sin of Pride being still there because they were too proud to admit they sinned.
 
No, but as raunchy as HH and HB are, I get the feeling they're not actually all that bothered about R34.
I know it's a far late reply, just haven't visited this thread in a long while.

Dunno about the rest of the main team, but knowing Vivienne, I think she most definintely is bothered by it (and I am not putting it negatively), but it may depend on what kind of r34 material is it and with what characters. Being openly bothered by it would only give an opposite effect, and I am sure she understands it.

As for Valentine's Day pins, I was kinda surprised too when I saw them, but comparing that to r34 is moronic. They are like those pin-up calendars with pretty guys and chicks, no more, no less. However, I find it strange that they made one of Vaggie and also ignored the male cast characters, save for Angel. The only thing @horrorfan89 is right about here is that Viv is a massive hypocrite who is full of contradictions.


Also, Jesus Piss Christ, what is this with Vivienne befriending and hiring various borderline disgusting freaks and completely shitbrained lefties?

How the fuck Charlie will make her "successful redeemed demons" be legitimate in the eyes of heaven? This thought had to be fly in her head before burning daddy's trust fund money for building hotel.
Keep in mind that Charlie is a naive goodie-good girl with a childish attitude.

As for the heaven. Well, one of the most infamous aspects of it, which makes it receive a lot of shite from people, is that it can accept even the souls of blokes who did vile things, if they manage to redeem themselves to earn God's forgiveness.
 
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The concept in itself was pretty good, but holy shite, all that "evil rich capitalist" bollocks and poor execution completely buried it.
I think you're reading too much into the capitalism thing. The rich and influential are still perfectly capable of acting cartoonishly evil, just look at Big Tech.
 
For all we know, her plan was: "1. Built Hotel. 2. Keep sinners safe during exterminations. 3. Make sinners less sinful. 4. ???? 5. REDEMPTION FOR EVERYONE!" I mean, her idea of redeeming sinners isn't even bad. Making the people less awful to each other would make the Pride circle as a whole less terrible.

It's just that for all we know, this specific Hell is already mostly empty because Jesus marshed through it to save anyone who repents, with only those with the Sin of Pride being still there because they were too proud to admit they sinned.
She should obviously turn them into penguins, make them do all the work and pay them with one sardine a month from thousands of years until they can pay for their sins and be reincarnated
 
Finally watched the 4th episode. Fully agree with @samuraicrack on it. The concept in itself was pretty good, but holy shite, all that "evil rich capitalist" bollocks and poor execution completely buried it.
I watched it again and actually liked it better.
Something subjective: what I found also eye-cutting is how they seemingly tried to portray IMPs in a somewhat more right than CHERUBs, who even have beurocratic tossers as higher ups. Okay, I get it, IMPs are main protagonists and CHERUBs are annoying shits, but why does it look like the former, a bunch of chaotic and mental hypocrits who will kill pretty much anyone for cash and fun, which seems to be the only thing they care about, need to be sympathised more with, while the latter are supposed to be viewed as nothing, but annoying stupid hippity-happity dumbasses?
I actually like the Cherubs. They're adorable and while they're a trifle sanctimonious, it's nice to have a foil that is actually well intentioned, if annoying as shit. I also have no problem whatsoever with "evil capitalist fuck" as a villain. They exist. People don't like them. Seriously have you looked at Bill Gates? Steve Jobs? Are these good people? Not really.

Also I'll disagree on the humor in it. Two things I thought were really good: the "Cuties" gag, something no ultra-woketard would ever do, and just as a visual, the way the falling piano literally swerved to hit Lipton.

I liked this better than the "evil fucktards versus evil fucktards" of the third episode.
 
The thing about the whole "evil capitalist" thing is... everyone is HH/HB is a piece of shit. That's the entire point of the show. There are rare exceptions like Charlie (sometimes), but 99% of the characters we've seen are pieces of shit. What, the billionaire businessman is gonna be NOT a piece of shit? Why should that be?
 
I think you're reading too much into the capitalism thing. The rich and influential are still perfectly capable of acting cartoonishly evil, just look at Big Tech.
I also have no problem whatsoever with "evil capitalist fuck" as a villain. They exist. People don't like them. Seriously have you looked at Bill Gates? Steve Jobs? Are these good people? Not really.
The thing about the whole "evil capitalist" thing is... everyone is HH/HB is a piece of shit. That's the entire point of the show. There are rare exceptions like Charlie (sometimes), but 99% of the characters we've seen are pieces of shit. What, the billionaire businessman is gonna be NOT a piece of shit? Why should that be?
Now, seems like you got me wrong or I didn't phrase it well enough.

It's not the villain being an unlikable greedy self-centered billionaire/trillionaire douchebag, it's how he is written. For an adult show, even if it doesn't take itself seriously, he is a really lazy caricature with barely any character. It's just low-effort material like those shitty leftist comics and memes. Compare that to other "capitalist scum" characters like Mr. Burns, Mr. Krabs or even stereotypical rich capitalists from Soviet propaganda cartoons.

But hey, maybe it's just the inner snob pushing the gears in my head.
 
or even stereotypical rich capitalists from Soviet propaganda cartoons.
That's an unfair comparison. The evil capitalists in Soviet stuff have a level of class no modern series could hope to match.

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Would you say no to this fine gentleman's offer?
 
Also I'll disagree on the humor in it. Two things I thought were really good: the "Cuties" gag, something no ultra-woketard would ever do, and just as a visual, the way the falling piano literally swerved to hit Lipton.
There was a guy who got pissed at Viv for saying "big companies have been making loads of yikes lately", honestly I don't even see how Hazbin is a yikes compared to this pedophilic film. I wonder how he feels about that Helluva Boss Cuties gag.
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For all we know, her plan was: "1. Built Hotel. 2. Keep sinners safe during exterminations. 3. Make sinners less sinful. 4. ???? 5. REDEMPTION FOR EVERYONE!" I mean, her idea of redeeming sinners isn't even bad. Making the people less awful to each other would make the Pride circle as a whole less terrible.

It's just that for all we know, this specific Hell is already mostly empty because Jesus marshed through it to save anyone who repents, with only those with the Sin of Pride being still there because they were too proud to admit they sinned.
Welp, we’re getting a new episode that focuses on Stolas and Blitzø's relationship!
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Late but I'm so hyped.
 
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