HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

[Devilish Jack o Lantern]

So now Watchmen will most likely become another woke show whilst probably contradicting every message that the comic book stood for. Watchmen known to be one of the best selling comics of all time, this graphic novel is considered a classic by many and was considered to be unadaptable. However in 2009 Zach Snyder took on this task and made possibly the best possible panel to screen conversion of any comic book movie , but we aren't here for that under rated movie. We are here for what looks to be the most "what the fuck " adaptation of any comic I've witnessed and it began with this teaser

Spoiler: the first teaser

Spoiler: The new logo

I began to have doubts with the logo, and it looked kind of odd then I heard the show runner would Damon Lindelof ( known for Lost, cowboys vs aliens , the star trek movies and prometheus) this is when I begun to have my doubts on the show mostly because the showrunner's track record leaves much to be desired and then the cast list

Spoiler: Cast

• Regina King
• Don Johnson
• Tim Blake Nelson as Looking Glass
• Louis Gossett Jr.
• Adelaide Clemens
• Andrew Howard
• Jeremy Irons as Adrian Veidt / Ozymandias
• Tom Mison
• Frances Fisher
• Jacob Ming-Trent
• Yahya Abdul-Mateen II
• Sara Vickers
• Dylan Schombing
• Adelynn Spoon
• Lily Rose Smith
• Jean Smart as Agent Blake
• James Wolk
• Hong Chau as Lady T.

Now this teaser for shows coming in 2019 came out last week and it became obvious that this watchmen not only looks like pretentious pice of crap but for some reason everyone is wearing fucking masks for some reason. and rorschach looks like one of those cosplayers that made a shit mask and cut holes in it .

Spoiler: Rorschach

I predict no one will watch or enjoy the show but it will get rave reviews. but we will have to see once it's out.

 

[NN 401]

Are they actually going to get the humor in the Watchmen this time or will it be just like the movie but with progtard crap strewn about?

 

[XYZpdq]

Is this related to those dozen Watchmen prequel comics they did a few years back?

 

[Judge Holden]

Honestly after DC nothing short of raped Watchmen these past two years, honestly even a fucking wokified DRUMPFFFFF infused Watchmen will be a step up from the ungodly shit thats been done to the franchise

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

Is this related to those dozen Watchmen prequel comics they did a few years back?

Coworker of mine is super into Watchmen, and they said from what they saw, it was going to be a rehash of the original material.

 

[Cool kitties club]

While I had some problems with the movie, most notably the over use of violence which made the ending less impact, it was a decent. Something tells me HBO will keep the violence because they are the adult channel.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Love the graphic novel. Disliked the 2009 movie (and FUCK the movie's ending; way to miss the point of the entire story). I really wish that Terry Gilliam had been granted the budget that he wanted to adapt the comic book faithfully. He would have been a perfect director for it. David Fincher as the director of that movie would have rocked my world, too.

I think that Watchmen should have been an HBO miniseries from the get-go, however, in this day and age, I'm not anticipating for it to be any good. I really hope I'm wrong.

NIN is doing the soundtrack, though. That's one thing to look forward to. I hope we get some dark and grimy 80's synths going on.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I mean, 'The Watchmen' you have a theme of madness, this....sense that a lie can somehow create peace, and when do you compromise? And the fucking ultimate line (COMPLETELY RUINED by the movie. "Ends? Nothing ever ends, Adrian." Implying what he did WILL NOT LAST and will have consequences that even he cannot forsee). Also fuck Synder for implying that they chose Rosarch's novel at the end of the movie. That was left up to the reader and only served to reinforce Ozymandias' sacrifice would be short lived no matter what, making his drama and sacrifice an act of his own madness. Ozymandias is no hero, he is a villain, forcing the heroes to be complicit in his lie in the short term, which Roach, an absolutist hero cannot understand or abide by. Which is why he dies. The other heroes understand temporary silence is neccessary, but they know there will be a day when they will have to deal with Ozymandias' consequences.

The Watchmen is a story warning against moral absolutism and the 'Ends Justify the Means' and how power cannot save us. 'The Watchmen" is so rich story-telling wise, the ending leaving everyone forced into this secret, waiting for the lie to break. Because they KNOW its going to break. Even Ozymandias himself is waiting, that's why it parallels with the pirate comic so much. He's on that ship of madness, his crimes following him. He was the monster all along.

To translate that into a 'woke' series doesn't work. Because its basically a story about humanity itself. That we will destroy ourselves. That we can make up as many lies as we want, we can commit any amount of horrors along the way. We're still fucking doomed. Which goes right back to the Comedian. "It's all a fucking Joke." It breaks his fucking mind, the guy who killed a woman he got pregnant in 'nam. That's how horrific the plot of Watchmen is, that's how much of a monster Ozymandias is, and how fucked the human race is in that Ozymanday's represents our hope. Its really all about how the Human Race is a joke, and the heroes and villains are so small in the scope of our own united desire for self-destruction. Comedian represents all the themes and ideas of Watchmen, along with the pirate comic. Personally, it is the most uniquely narrative, story and character rich comic ever written. Also, not even Ozymandias understands how much of a monster he is until the very fucking last panel.

Somehow I don't think HBO will be able to capture this.

 

[A Useless Fish]

How the fuck is Jeremy Irons expected to pull off being Ozymandias? Assuming they're gonna use the storyline in the graphic novel, then Jeremy's way too fucking old and out of shape to play Veidt, unless they put so much CG and makeup on him that he ceases to resemble anything close to Jeremy Irons.

There's a cast list there, but only Ozy's actor is listed? Do we know who is playing Nightowl, Silk Spectre, Rorschach, the Comedian and Dr. Manhattan? The movie itself wasn't a bad adaptation in how the whole thing was a character study in the sorts of messed up people who'd eventually dress up in tights and beat guys up in alleys at three in the morning. I just have serious reservations of casting if they think Irons can pull off the actual antagonist of the story.

 

[Miller]

I'm surprised that the cops are wearing yellow masks, not red. I guess their "social commentary" would've been too much on the nose.

There's a cast list there, but only Ozy's actor is listed?

If I remember correctly originally the show wouldn't have featured the Watchmen at all. It would be about a bunch of progressive people or something like that.

 

[Secret Asshole]

However, HBO's Watchmen isn't a direct adaptation of the graphic novels, nor even a direct sequel, but is instead an original story set in the same universe in modern times. So, while there will be some familiar faces, the focus will primarily be on new characters, and the main location will be Tulsa, Oklahoma rather than New York City.

So uhhh....what? The backdrop of the Watchmen and all its themes were in the Cold War. It doesn't work in modern day because we don't have any analogue to the cold war. We've got no Doomsday clock. And don't make me laugh and tell me North Korea is the same shit. China doesn't work either because China would rather kill itself than nuke its major trading partner. We have no real end of the world parable to focus Ozymandias' literal genocide to. So....what? Also, NYC was MAJORLY important because of all the loss of life there, the danger, you felt like the stakes were high. Tulsa, OK? You fucking kidding me? A hick town? You jokin me dude? A hick town gets obliterated, who gives a fuck.

Oh GOD why am I flashing back to Tulsa Race Riots. NO HBO NO, BAD HBO, NO. SNAKE GOD THAT ALAN MOORE WORSHIPS GIVE DAMNON LINDIOFF HIVES OR SOMETHING.

How will it be an original story? Watchmen wasn't meant as a 'universe' type deal. It was a story in a traditional literary sense, which is why it is considered to take the comic book mainstream. The universe itself is built FOR the story it is telling, no other stories.

They will however be remixed, Because the bass lines in those familiar tracks are just too good and we’d be fools not to sample them. Those original twelve issues are our Old Testament. When the New Testament came along it did not erase what came before it. Creation. The Garden of Eden. Abraham and Isaac. The Flood. It all happened. And so it will be with ‘Watchmen.’ The Comedian died. Dan and Laurie fell in love. Ozymandias saved the world and Dr. Manhattan left it just after blowing Rorschach to pieces in the bitter cold of Antarctica.”

BUT HE DIDN'T SAVE THE WORLD. HE ONLY PROLONGED THE INEVITABLE. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. ALAN MOORE IS CRAZY. HE WILL KILL YOU.

This story will be set in the world its creators painstakingly built…but in the tradition of the work that inspired it, this new story must be original. It has to vibrate with the seismic unpredictability of its own tectonic plates. It must ask new questions and explore the world through a fresh lens. Most importantly, it must be contemporary. The Old Testament was specific to the Eighties of Reagan and Thatcher and Gorbachev. Ours needs to resonate with the frequency of Trump and May and Putin and the horse that he rides around on, shirtless. And speaking of Horsemen, The End of the World is off the table…which means the heroes and villains–as if the two are distinguishable–are playing for different stakes entirely.”

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The 2009 movie got Ozymandias SO WRONG ... And it looks like this series got him wrong, too. Jeremy Irons is an ultimate miscast.

If you watched the movie without having read the graphic novel, you can easily tell who killed the Comedian. Whereas in the graphic novel, it wasn't nearly as obvious. That's because Ozymandias is an overtly optimistic zealot who thinks he's the hero. One of my favorite moments in the comic book is when he shouts "I DID IT!!" with his arms up in the air and a big smile on his face. The moment is unexpectedly hilarious in such a dark situation. In the movie, Ozymandias is consistently cold and calculating.

 

[The Cunting Death]

I would have given this a chance, but then I saw
>Damon Lindelof

 

[MasterDisaster]

Love the Watchmen. While the movie fails to fully capture the characters the graphic novel is still to the day one of my favorite reads. It's dark, foreboding and almost painfully compelling as you learn that each and every person involved in the story is just some sad, vulnerable human that put on a costume and ran around for their own ulterior motives...and then there's Ozymandias, who built an empire on his associates backs and essentially did everything that he did as some long haul to shove it all in the Comedians face.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Because "Before Watchmen" was such a hit.

Christ, that logo made me angry. Way to completely miss the point. I hope it (and it will) bomb so hard.

"Nothing ever ends" should be Hollywood's new motto.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Because "Before Watchmen" was such a hit.

Doomsday Clock, the Watchmen sequel series bringing the Watchmen universe into the mainstream DC universe is a legitimate hit, though.

 

[YayLasagna]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Although Rorschach's marker and bedsheet mask isn't leaving me with much hope.

 

[UnKillFill]

There's only one inaccurate to the comics adaptation of Watchmen I'd like to see.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Controversial opinion: I liked the Zack Snyder movie. There were a couple of choices I didn't like such as the ending and out of place wire-fu but overall it was pretty damn good.

 

[XYZpdq]

Yeah the movie had flaws but it was a pretty solid stab at the material.
And I'm fine with framing Doc instead of the squid.