💼 Careercow Heartmob - a lolcow event in progress.

[CharlesBarkley]

To play devil's advocate for a moment, I could see where something like this would be of some use to someone who's life is in honest to God danger from online stalkers that have the capabilities to do harm to someone in the real world

Calling the police and deleting your Facebook is 100x better.

 

[JU 199]

Tbh I can see serial stalking being a problem worth of this, however its mostly just "someone said something mean on the internet"

 

[Feline Darkmage]

I could see where something like this would be of some use

Presumably in a version that doesn't dox the 'victims' right? Because that'd be more useful, albeit a lot less hilarious.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Presumably in a version that doesn't dox the 'victims' right? Because that'd be more useful, albeit a lot less hilarious.

It would also have to be a version that can verify what the accuser says is true is actually true, which is near impossible for a web-form. Most of what people claim as "harassment" on the internet either exaggeration or straight out lies.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

It would also have to be a version that can verify what the accuser says is true is actually true, which is near impossible for a web-form. Most of what people claim as "harassment" on the internet either exaggeration or straight out lies.

Woah, buddy. A friend of mine was almost kink-shamed to death then dead named. That little tranny Jew nigga may be crippled for life, imo. Stop with the oppression.

 

[Splendid]

Spoiler: Bigger version

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"Child Pornography? How the fuck is child pornography involved at any step in any of this shit? They're just trying to to fucking grab attention by pushing the CP button. They're no better than Vordrak.

 

[BadaBadaBoom]

Anyone who posts online wants fame in some way shape or form. Fame for your humor, talent, opinions, etc. It's all about being famous if you need to post your shit online constantly. And guess what? When you want fame, you're going to get people who don't like you.

TOUGH SHIT.

You can wah and say "Why don't they have anything better to do than make fun of me?" "Why can't I be left alone?" But still at the end of the day you're going to keep whining all over twitter and facebook and tumblr only causing more and more people to notice you.

That's fame. You wanted it - you got it. Maybe have a little more self awareness next time you put on a diaper, or defend a pedophile, or show off your penis, or call for all white people to die. You don't get to be invisible if you try and stand out and make an ass of yourself.

Not a single person on the farms would be "harrassed" if they just acted normal and didn't demand only "positive" fame; flipping out at any negativity that came their way.

Case in point - this website is bullshit and is just another avenue for people to demand attention and get pity points. See those little heart icons with the numbers? Actual pity points. None of this advocates any real way to avoid online harassment. It's all to promote the same attention whoring behavior that got you in trouble in the first place.

 

[Splendid]

Case in point - this website is bullshit and is just another avenue for people to demand attention and get pity points. See those little heart icons with the numbers? Actual pity points. None of this advocates any real way to avoid online harassment. It's all to promote the same attention whoring behavior that got you in trouble in the first place.

Have a non-pity point; a numerical measure of fame.

 

[Graffiti canvas]

Ho-lee shit.

This is such a phenomenally bad execution of a tumblr idea gone bad.

I don't know who's more at fault here. The idiots who dox themselves after being "harassed" online or the website that encourages and facilitates it.

 

[Paco's Chili Holocaust]

Ho-lee shit.

This is such a phenomenally bad execution of a tumblr idea gone bad.

I don't know who's more at fault here. The idiots who dox themselves after being "harassed" online or the website that encourages and facilitates it.

The former, because anyone who's not an idiot baby already knows the solution to "online harassment". It's not post a big wah-wah alarm on a site no one uses; it's clicking the tab off. The website ain't doin' shit, since you already have to be an idiot to use it, so chances are you'd be doxxing yourself unprompted.

Now I wanna know who's more at fault, the people who paid money for the Kickstarter or the Kickstarters for actually following through... with predictably caustic and useless results.

 

[Kikomi]

i really want to know why nobody at heartmob HQ thought for even a second that this idea wouldn't backfire horribly. is it naivety? do they have too much faith in their targeted demographic?

this is literally a lolcow phonebook.

 

[Cosmos]

Spoiler: Heart Mob is doxing its own users

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That article is real btw

http://www.refinery29.com/2016/12/131858/tom-price-abortion-birth-control-access-essay
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The top-rated comment on that article:

L I T E R A L H A R A S S M E N T

To play devil's advocate for a moment, I could see where something like this would be of some use to someone who's life is in honest to God danger from online stalkers that have the capabilities to do harm to someone in the real world. Like, an ex trying to get revenge, or whatever. Or a possible way to help protect minors until they're mature enough to understand how the internet works.

But the way it's being executed here.... is really ridiculous. I mean, getting upset because people disagree with you about an article you wrote? Could it be, that why they're getting aggressive in your face because of the tone you presented your article or side of an argument in? If you throw a verbal molotov cocktail at someone by using loaded labels, don't get pissy when the same gets thrown back in your face, tenfold. It's a two-way street, but sometimes, it becomes a one-way street and thus you need to be the better person.

There's always going to be assholes on the internet. But that's both the beautiful and ugly thing about the internet: it gives a platform and a voice to everyone. It's just like writing a letter to your community op-ed section in your local newspaper back in the day: if you put yourself and your opinions out there, for the whole world to see, then you better be prepared to handle counterarguments and the occasional heckler, and not go running screaming and crytyping about how someone hurt your feelings. If these people can't handle that, and it's clear they really can't, then they shouldn't be on the internet in the first place and/or make an effort to bring back LiveJournal-esque closed community echo chambers instead of expecting vast, open forums with wildly differing opinions and ideals to yield to them.

For the record, I do feel really bad for people who genuinely haven't done anything wrong but still get harassed. Like, I don't think it's at all acceptable to say "Kill yourself, you fat ugly cunt" to someone just because they have a different opinion and expressed it respectfully. Idk, sometimes I just feel like people cross the line from "heckling" or even "being a dick" to outright cruelty and harassment. It's not funny or meaningful or clever, it's just downright malicious.

However, I browsed Heartmob and like upwards of 90% of the "examples" included do not cross that line. Some of them are just plain criticism with no insults attached, or very mild ones (like the comment I posted above). "Fuck off, idiot" or actual counterarguments are not cruelty or harassment, for real.

 

[Splendid]

I fucking hate Heartmob.
Call me an A-Log, but I think that training people to be more sensitive, rather than giving them the fact about how to minimize actual harassment while telling histrionic idiots to grow thicker skin and that disagreement isn't harassment is just harming both them and society.

 

[Raccoon99]

Why do i have the feeling that it's just going to end similarly to gamergate and people will just look back at it and Laugh?

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Why do i have the feeling that it's just going to end similarly to gamergate and people will just look back at it and Laugh?

GamerGate is still a "big issue" in all the circles with tentacles in social media. When Rapp got fired all the media buzz was about how GamerGate claimed yet another scalp.

HeartMob will never be the villain. Internet history will blame its inevitable failure on sexist trolls and that'll be the end of it.

 

[AtrocityVoyeur]

i'd fuck them all tbh

Jae Cameron looks like she just shat all over that road and is pointing at that shit with the glee of an exceptional toddler. "Look what I made!"

 

[PhantomDiploma]

I see they have a number of people with direct links to their personal info on the front page of the website, or to people supposedly harassing them. What could go wrong?

I set up this page to support other Survivors of Domestic Violence, Sex Abuse, & Bullying who were and are triggered by the election of Trump and the campaign of hate he was waged. Mainly it is to collect (and disperse) articles and info on a widespread form of PTSD known as TTSD, Trump Traumatic Stress Disorder. I named the page after a few articles of the same title. I did not make it to troll trump, but to focus on the psychological fallout that is widespread. I have admitted online to having C-PTSD, a complex form of PTSD with a high suicide risk. One harasser's profile was a gun barrel and they suggested I get help from Dr. Kevorkian. FB agreed that their profile should be banned, but said other harassing posts were okay, I could just block & delete (like a new full-time job). One guy posted a meme with a sexy woman writhing in bed saying Trump will Make America Great Again When He Grabs My Pussy.

Then, there's also the "Know Your Rights" which, par for the course, suggests you "consider" going to the police if you feel you are in immediate danger, acknowledging that "we understand that involving law enforcement may not be the best option for many".

First and foremost, if you feel as though you are in immediate danger, consider calling the police. We understand that involving law enforcement may not be the best option for many, as a growing number of people have reported a lack of sensitivity and responsiveness to issues of online harassment by police. We also understand people have different experiences with law enforcement depending on their personal histories, identities, and communities, so please use your best discretion in any decision to involve police. The upside of police involvement when dealing with online harassment is that once you have made an official complaint, you will begin to create documentation for your case. This documentation will be helpful if the harassment continues or escalates in the future. Of course there are other ways to document harassment that don’t involve law enforcement, such as storing all documentation on a hard drive, or documenting a case on HeartMob.

I can think of a few situations where the harassed would have, arguably, legitimate reasons not to immediately go to the police over harassment. There is the possibility of angering an unbalanced person who knows your current whereabouts or is in a position to hurt your friends and family. In that case, the first thing to do would be to get yourself and your loved ones out of danger. The mentioned "a lack of sensitivity and responsiveness to issues of online harassment by police" is not a very good reason to put oneself in danger, and using a third party like HeartMob to piss the harasser off even more in lieu of going to the police goes 180 degrees against what any law enforcement and established anti-domestic violence organization will tell you - you know, the people who have been dealing with this shit for years.

In addition plastering this dangerous recommendation on the site, even with a lukewarm disclaimer to "please keep in mind that this guide is not intended as legal advice", has made "HeartMob" less sustainable than Chris-Chan's Sonichu venture. If HeartMob gets enough traffic, someone with a dangerous stalker who started pestering her on FaceBook is going to follow this advice and not go to the police it escalates, maybe post a few of his comments to the frontpage of HeartMob to really piss him off, and something horrible and preventable will happen.

 

[The Giver]

deleting your Facebook is 100x better.

Honest to God, I think a lot of the folks on this site are more likely to end their own lives than to delete their Facebook.

I wish I were joking.

 

[idosometimes]

Ahh yes that always turns out to be a good idea. Solid advice Heartmob

We live in a time where even people have no idea what the bibble they are on about can be considered experts. You don't have to understand the problem to fix it. You just need to have good intentions. It's the same way I find a plumber or a doctor. Lucky the guy I found does both.

It's not a ruse, it's the continuation of the slow death of the pre-social media internet. Just as the Eternal September of 1993 killed the old Usenet culture forever, the Endless July of 2007 flooded the internet with a bunch of people who associated it with the facebook app on their iPhone and little else. The advice of the previous generation of internet users is ignored, because this new influx of users is so closely tied to social media. They react to trolls as if it were a real-life confrontation, and get upset when they're told to just ignore them.

Plus, look at that staff sheet. Do you really think these people are self-aware enough to do this as a con? They're basically the progressive version of Helen Lovejoy, looking for a crusade to signal about how virtuous they are.

It is more sad than anything else. As much as I wanted to laugh at their about page, I couldn't. I felt bad that they people want to help but are too stupid to actually do anything useful. They actually do more harm than good. They just want to help. They will not let a lack of knowledge, understanding of issue, experience, or good ideas get in their way.

 

[Cuntster]

So HeartMob is basically an advanced lolcow tracking service? Fantastic!