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[Null]

Well that's the thing, isn't it; the excessive political division and politicization of all things since November 2016 has certainly taken a toll on discourse.

However, I firmly believe that people should be able to simply ignore political content. If you don't like overt politicization, don't go to boards where political discussion is a natural occurrence and factor, like A&H and Deep Thoughts.

Most people on or near the center just don't want to discuss politics mate. The main reason the right congregate on sites like this is that progressive sites will ban them. "Jews did this" turns into "1 month - racism / ironic racism" on any other board. Any site that doesn't do that becomes a safe haven for the right and when people begin to say things like that it cauterizes any potential for centrist discussion.

'Normies' also have no real reason to persuade people to their way of thinking. To a normal person with mainstream opinions, you're just a fringe weirdo. To the fringe weirdos, every mind is one that can be potentially opened to a new way of thinking, which makes political discourse more exciting and worth doing.

The left and right in the world right now are currently online evangelizing for their cause and it annoys the fuck out of people.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If A&H is just a /pol/ circlejerk and it's oh so impossible to have discussions there as a left leaning user, should there maybe be a separate lefty A&H?

The outcome might be entertaining.

Reddit already exists tho

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Most people on or near the center just don't want to discuss politics mate. The main reason the right congregate on sites like this is that progressive sites will ban them. "Jews did this" turns into "1 month - racism / ironic racism" on any other board. Any site that doesn't do that becomes a safe haven for the right and when people begin to say things like that it cauterizes any potential for centrist discussion.

'Normies' also have no real reason to persuade people to their way of thinking. To a normal person with mainstream opinions, you're just a fringe weirdo. To the fringe weirdos, every mind is one that can be potentially opened to a new way of thinking, which makes political discourse more exciting and worth doing.

The left and right in the world right now are currently online evangelizing for their cause and it annoys the fuck out of people.

Most of the "evangelizing", as it were (right or left, honestly), is confined almost entirely to the "safe haven" of A&H, which nobody is really forcing anyone to read. Most threads outside of A&H, even those with a clear political bent, are not nearly as susceptible to such "evangelism", even if the evangelist in question would otherwise be preaching to the choir. The evangelist would more than likely just get autistic ratings.

If you don't want to discuss politics, then don't discuss politics, and don't go to any places that discuss politics.

 

[BlackBallz]

Fuck you Nool for making me sing up to this place of scum and villany to get my fix. But since I'm here: NIGGER!!

 

[Null]

That is in general the purpose of A&H: to give people a place to vent about politics that isn't on-topic boards. The problem then becomes, we have new users who know almost nothing about lolcows who join just to talk politics, then those normies who don't want to talk politics are seeing rants about blacks and immigrants in a thread about a fat woman eating because her boyfriend is a first generation African immigrant and they're going "wtf". The blame is put on the board and by extension me for allowing it.

 

[Unog]

That is in general the purpose of A&H: to give people a place to vent about politics that isn't on-topic boards. The problem then becomes, we have new users who know almost nothing about lolcows who join just to talk politics, then those normies who don't want to talk politics are seeing rants about blacks and immigrants in a thread about a fat woman eating because her boyfriend is a first generation African immigrant and they're going "wtf". The blame is put on the board and by extension me for allowing it.

I can understand that, and I think it's fair to say that anybody who can't is retarded.

The thing is though, it seems a lot of the bitching and whining is about the content of A&H and how it's "filled with /pol/tards" even though it's the same ~8-10 people who post like they just came hot off the boat from /pol/, with the rest just being centrist-moderate right-wingers, centrists, and the occasional lefty with resident communist @Ashy the Angel . Shit, at one point in the SOTB thread some people were insinuating that mean stickers were the reason they hated it.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

That is in general the purpose of A&H: to give people a place to vent about politics that isn't on-topic boards. The problem then becomes, we have new users who know almost nothing about lolcows who join just to talk politics, then those normies who don't want to talk politics are seeing rants about blacks and immigrants in a thread about a fat woman eating because her boyfriend is a first generation African immigrant and they're going "wtf". The blame is put on the board and by extension me for allowing it.

Then put in the same rule in those threads that you put in Weeb Wars: "This is not a political board. We are not for or against anything here. Your politics are shit. No one cares."

 

[Null]

Then put in the same rule in those threads that you put in Weeb Wars: "This is not a political board. We are not for or against anything here. Your politics are shit. No one cares."

That is an existing rule, but it has to be enforced, as opposed to not ever really having to deal with politics in regular boards.

For someone presumably against immigration because demographics are destiny, this should not be a difficult concept.

 

[JoshPlz]

I think you two are both severely overplaying the political bent of A&H. I've repeatedly seen left-wingers and liberals do quite well in A&H threads without getting shouted down and screeched at.

The thing is though, it seems a lot of the bitching and whining is about the content of A&H and how it's "filled with /pol/tards" even though it's the same ~8-10 people who post like they just came hot off the boat from /pol/, with the rest just being centrist-moderate right-wingers, centrists, and the occasional lefty with resident communist @Ashy the Angel . Shit, at one point in the SOTB thread some people were insinuating that mean stickers were the reason they hated it.

Agreed. I can see healthy discussions happening all the time. My usually very right leaning opinions have in fact been shifted by good arguments, made by articulate left leaning users more than once.

Other than simply not liking right leaning opinions, I can only imagine that some people take obvious shitposting too seriously.
There is a lot of that, admittedly. It IS fun to be able to say offensive stuff without getting banned for once.

 

[Nobunaga]

This attitude of, "well just post more left-leaning politics in the board to even it out" completely glosses over that most people want no political discussion in their funny exceptional individual website.

That point fells apart when we have shit like the gaming board, cooking threads, literature, music, all kinds of off topic shit
This isnt just a funny excepcional individual website and i argue it hasnt been only that in a long ass time

 

[Null]

That point fells apart when we have shit like the gaming board, cooking threads, literature, music, all kinds of off topic shit
This isnt just a funny excepcional individual website and i argue it hasnt been only that in a long ass time

It absolutely does not because there is very little divisive content in the cooking board. No family has ever been torn apart over Star Wars.

 

[gobbogobb]

Null just beat me to it. Multimedia might leak star wars spergery when a cow mentions tlj.

A&H is more like a tsunami.

 

[beautiful person]

I can only imagine that some people take obvious shitposting too seriously.

I'm mentally exceptional, so bear with me, but a lot of times in A&H I legitimately cannot tell if people are shitposting/being ironic or if those are people's actual beliefs.

 

[Nobunaga]

It absolutely does not because there is very little divisive content in the cooking board. No family has ever been torn apart over Star Wars.

I dunno about that nool, are you sure you have even been there recently?

 

[Not Really Here]

I demand reimbursement for the 3 minutes it took me to get the crap needed to sign up here.

 

[Unog]

Null just beat me to it. Multimedia might leak star wars spergery when a cow mentions tlj.

A&H is more like a tsunami.

Are you really telling me that it's such a pervasive problem in the 29k on-topic threads, that the 8-10 people in A&H who regularly unironically post /pol/ tier shit somehow cause like-minded folks to pop into said threads and sperg for a few posts before getting threadbanned, that it necessitates the sheer amount of caterwauling that the one political board gets?

Sounds like an extraordinary claim to me if I've ever heard one.

 

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That is in general the purpose of A&H: to give people a place to vent about politics that isn't on-topic boards. The problem then becomes, we have new users who know almost nothing about lolcows who join just to talk politics, then those normies who don't want to talk politics are seeing rants about blacks and immigrants in a thread about a fat woman eating because her boyfriend is a first generation African immigrant and they're going "wtf". The blame is put on the board and by extension me for allowing it.

In fairness there's some great content in A&H. I gather from offsite that the latest '4 dads & a mom' facebook video features at least one of the 'stunning and brave' dads talking about his Grindrr experiences. They're bound to be keepers.

At this point that's like signing up for Reddit, going to a AnCom subreddit and telling them they're all fags who should get jobs. A&H is no longer a place for discussion, but an echo chamber for people that don't like waiting for capchas on /pol/. I'm glad it exists so I don't have to see people hamfist their political opinions in lolcow threads, but at this point there's no reason to go there for civil discussion. I've tried.
The only reason left to go there is for silly, non political news stories. Those threads are entertaining sometimes.

Eh, there's a few insufferable conservative dummocks, but you can just ignore them.

 

[Superman93]

Eh, there's a few insufferable conservative dummocks, but you can just ignore them.

Yeah you're one of em

Are you really telling me that it's such a pervasive problem in the 29k on-topic threads, that the 8-10 people in A&H who regularly unironically post /pol/ tier shit somehow causes like-minded folks to pop into said threads and sperg for a few posts before getting threadbanned, that it necessitates the sheer amount of caterwauling that the one political board gets?

Sounds like an extraordinary claim to me if I've ever heard one.

Yes.

 

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Yeah you're one of em

You might as well say I fuck my mother. Take that back.

 

[Unog]

Yes.

Gonna need some evidence then for that claim before I believe it.

Also I'd really love to know why it's so unbearably difficult for you and everyone who's got a turgid hate-boner for A&H to report, then ignore said spergs.