Hiding off-topic from unregistered users

[Kosher Salt]

As an alternative, would it be possible to just make everything within a [ quote ] or a [ spoiler ] be hidden from non-logged-in users? Then, require copypasta to be posted inside one of those (it usually is anyway, right?). That could apply to the whole site, not just A&H, and it would also make it so that searching for something will actually find the post where it was said, and not posts that were just quoting it (minor nuisance, since it's usually just 1 extra click, but still).

Then again, it might not be possible... you'd have to either update every post in the database to add a "public" version of the post's text (maybe only posts that contain quotes or spoilers), or you'd have to rewrite everything on-the-fly to remove the contents of those elements... ugh, yeah, I doubt that either of those is a practical option unfortunately... it's probably a dumb suggestion...

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I like how this turned into yet another discussion on the pros and cons of A&H.

That is an existing rule, but it has to be enforced, as opposed to not ever really having to deal with politics in regular boards.

For someone presumably against immigration because demographics are destiny, this should not be a difficult concept.

Who said that I was necessarily against immigration or that I believe that "demographics are destiny"?

Anyway, enforcing a "no politics" rule is effectively the same as not having to deal with politics. It couldn't be that much effort to ban political spergery from non-political threads.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Who said that I was necessarily against immigration or that I believe that "demographics are destiny"?

Yes, we already know you are a conservitard; You don't need to repeat yourself.

 

[Sparky Lurker]

Folks gets overly autistic about politics on a forum created to mock fat retards.

More news at 11.

 

[Give Her The D]

Yes, we already know you are a conservitard; You don't need to repeat yourself.

I'd say most are, but several act retarded about being a conservative.

Like, big deal, you're a conservative, I don't give a shit.

 

[HeyYou]

Yes, we already know you are a conservitard; You don't need to repeat yourself.

Damn, I though you were a conservitard like he is, my whole world is upside down.

 

[Cheetahman]

As an alternative, would it be possible to just make everything within a [ quote ] or a [ spoiler ] be hidden from non-logged-in users? Then, require copypasta to be posted inside one of those (it usually is anyway, right?)

"Would it just be possible to make everything completely unreadable for nonregistered users?"
I hope that's not what you're asking for, because it is absolutely infuriating to browse any garbage forum that locks images/spoilers/quotes/searching if you don't have an account.

 

[Kosher Salt]

"Would it just be possible to make everything completely unreadable for nonregistered users?"
I hope that's not what you're asking for, because it is absolutely infuriating to browse any garbage forum that locks images/spoilers/quotes/searching if you don't have an account.

Anything in a spoiler or quote should be accessible through a link (link to the source post, or link to the external site or archive).

You make a fair point, though. It could also be a Javascript AJAX load that only happens when it's clicked (so that search engines won't index it), but unregistered users can still see what it is without having to leave the page.

 

[gobbogobb]

I don't think adding multiple potential points of failure to a site that already runs at least somewhat smoothly is a good idea.

 

[Superman93]

Gonna need some evidence then for that claim before I believe it.

Also I'd really love to know why it's so unbearably difficult for you and everyone who's got a turgid hate-boner for A&H to report, then ignore said spergs.

Well since you ask me so nicely I'll be glad to explain it!
I wanna preface this by saying I actually like A&H. Much like HK-47 I love watching shitshows. It's honestly become my favorite past time on the farms now that the weeb wars board turned faggotity. (But thats a rant for another day.) The problem comes when people want to actually talk and discuss the topic and someone always has to derail the entire conversation to make it about the jews or black people. Doesn't matter if they are pertinent to the conversation or not. Take our friend @3119967d0c here.
Since you're an A&H regular I don't think I need to describe what this thread is about.
Now what does he do?
Blame the incompetent members of their government?
Blame the moronic citizens of his nation for letting this happen?
Does he get upset at the conversatives in the UK for letting it happen?
Nope. He blames the Jews.

Ephraim Borowski of the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities testified at the trial and said a bunch of bullshit.
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He lives at 19 Norwood Drive, Giffnock, Glasgow, G46 7LS, and is a director of a scam organization called 'BEMF' that pretends to represent blacks and South Asians and other ethnic minorities but with a Hebraic hand up the back of the puppet, as ever.
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Other Jews openly celebrated the verdict, including Nicola Livingston, co-president of the Glasgow Jewish Representative Council. Nicola is @nicgreen53 on Twitter. She appears to live at 247 Fenwick Road, Glasgow, G46 6JQ

There's a good chance Borowski may have been the original complainer, or at least the one with the right connections to get the prosecution to happen. I've looked through all the articles from the time and none of them mention who the prosecutor was, which is unfortunate. They bear a great deal of responsibility for this too.

Sheriff O'Carroll, who is lenient on pedophiles, has a couple addresses in the public record, with the first having changed hands since he used it, though the second has not. Of course, it might be used as a rental now.

Now when Black People or Jews are actually involved, holy shit does the thread get ugly. This thread is an abysmal dumpster fire.


The other thing I can't stand is the political bias. I know this point has been beaten to death but I wanna keep beating it until you understand how autistic this is. A&H faggots can somehow find a way to make a thread 100 pages about a 16 year old girl with aspergers who wants to do something about climate change with several exceptional and embarrassing bad takes. Instead of actually taking on the shit she's trying to advocate for it's 90+ pages of "lol she has aspergers", "i would fuck her after she's 18", or my favorite "shes just a pawn for da libs". Oh and Jews somehow get mentioned again despite the fact that she's not jewish:

"Here's a """"""""""cute"""""""""" Jewish girl from a country now comprised mainly of gay Muslims. She did something cool, now give up your plastic straws, and kill yourself so you can be more like her." The whole thing is just so condescending. It's like the exceptional kid in class getting a participation medal for smearing shit on a canvas during an art competition, and then looking down on you because you declined to participate.

I bet if this kid was right-leaning and said some diet conservative shit like "decrease immigration" or "fuck the (insert deragatory term for minority here)" she would be very based.

Also some A&H people just have objectively bad takes. Just pure stupidity. Take this thread for example. A subsitute teacher was fired for aruging with a student about why having gay parents is wrong. Now rather you disagree or agree with that religious sperg isn't the issue and if you're IQ was higher than 3 you would know the real issue is "should ideologies be pushed on young people in a class room?". Thankfully as far as I can tell the majority of takes on this thread were ok-ish. But of course the A&H spergs have to fuck it up. Thread slowly devolves into...well this shit.

"Teacher reported for wrongthink, students rewarded for idealogical purity and loyalty to Globohomo"

“Yes, Little Johnny, you should be very thankful to have 2 gay adopted dads. That way rather than only 1 foster father molesting you, they can spitroast you.”

TL;DR: A&H filled with people with objectively bad takes, right wing circle jerk, threads have people wanting a serious conversation, baitposters, and ironyposters which leads to massive shitshows, and autism.

 

[Unog]

TL;DR: A&H filled with people with objectively bad takes, right wing circle jerk, threads have people wanting a serious conversation, baitposters, and ironyposters which leads to massive shitshows, and autism.

You didn't answer either of the points I presented in the post of mine that you quoted. Both had to do with content outside of A&H itself.

Also, as I've said elsewhere, be the change you want to see if it's such a circlejerk. This really comes off as you complaining that A&H is too full of people whose opinions you disagree with rather than any substantive complaint such as those who made the (correct) point that a lot of the OPs were absolute shit, since people for whatever reason couldn't bother with proper formatting and editing out the ads and whatnot, or that there was a problem with people posting an article without bothering to check if it had been posted before. Which lead to the board now having supervisors who help to clean that shit up if it gets reported.

 

[Superman93]

You didn't answer either of the points I presented in my post that you quoted.

Blocking people is pointless if the majority of board is filled with again,

people wanting a serious conversation, baitposters, and ironyposters which leads to massive shitshows, and autism.

This really comes off as you complaining that A&H is too full of people who's opinions you disagree

Then you're retarded and have poor reading comprehension. What part of "I dislike people who say stupid shit that has nothing to do with the topic" sounds like "I disagree with majority of A&H so A&H is bad." The whole point of calling out the right-wing groupthink is because it leads people to saying stupid shit so long as it leans to the direction of that said group thinks.

I personally think A&H is fine but I want people to post better stuff like @Secret Asshole does or like Dynastia did when he was still around. I don't think asking for people to stop posting unending spree of autism is too much to ask.

 

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Take our friend @3119967d0c here.
Since you're an A&H regular I don't think I need to describe what this thread is about.
Now what does he do?
Blame the incompetent members of their government?
Blame the moronic citizens of his nation for letting this happen?
Does he get upset at the conversatives in the UK for letting it happen?
Nope. He blames the Jews.

Typical of the type who thinks any discussion of Yehudis means A&H is 'broken'.

1. A Jew complains about a pet video and whines to police and prosecutors until a charge is laid
2. Jew shows up and testifies at trial to make sure hurty words sentence for pet video is as harsh as possible, to send a message
3. After I point out that the person responsible for this farce is a specific person, who happens- coincidentally enough- to be a Jew, an MSNBC fan complains about people 'blaming the Jews' (and I never blamed 'the Jews'- just specific Jews responsible for this). For something a Jew did

 

[Unog]

Blocking people is pointless if the majority of board is filled with again,

Have you tried? Because I don't think you have. If the majority of the board is filled with content from people that you disagree with, then perhaps you need to consider ignoring the majority of the board.

Then you're exceptional and have poor reading comprehension. What part of "I dislike people who say stupid shit that has nothing to do with the topic" sounds like "I disagree with majority of A&H so A&H is bad."

Oh I dunno man, maybe all of your complaining about "bad takes"? Also those people who said "stupid shit that has nothing to do with the topic" still had something to do with the topic. In the case of the Mark Meechan thread, I wonder how people getting pissed off over alleged antisemitism, and prosecuting a man for having his dog give a nazi salute, has nothing to do with jews or jewish people. Can you explain that?

But more importantly than that, you seem to have this idea in your head that your opinion of what "has to do with" a thread in regards to posting content should be what's discussed and all "off-topic" discussion in the thread shouldn't exist. You saying that shitposting in the Greta thread is somehow problematic because they're not "taking on the shit she's trying to advocate for" is a perfect example of that.

The whole point of calling out the right-wing groupthink is because it leads people to saying stupid shit so long as it leans to the direction of that said group thinks.

Okay, great, you've called it out. Now what? Because the only options I can see are:

1) Moderation to "balance it out" aka fairness doctrine for A&H
2) People stop being whiny pussies and post, willing to make the brave sacrifice of getting no-no stickers
3) People stop being whiny pussies and post, putting people whom they don't want to see content from on ignore en-masse so they don't have to deal with the dreaded "circlejerk"

I personally think A&H is fine but I want people to post better stuff like @Secret Asshole does or like Dynastia did when he was still around. I don't think asking for people to stop posting unending spree of autism is too much to ask.

I'd love to know how you'd get people to "post better stuff".

Edit: When I said

You didn't answer either of the points I presented in the post of mine that you quoted. Both had to do with content outside of A&H itself.

You completely glossed over that. My points in the post that you originally quoted were directed towards @gobbogobb in relation to the notion that A&H is somehow a "tsunami" that floods into other boards. As in, specifically not problems within A&H. Funny that you'd insult my capacity for reading comprehension after that failure to comprehend both what I was responding to and my response to it.

 

[Ira the Weatherman]

I don't think asking for people to stop posting unending spree of autism is too much to ask.

How's your first day on the Internet going?

 

[Screw Danlon]

Also some A&H people just have objectively bad takes. Just pure stupidity. Take this thread for example. A subsitute teacher was fired for aruging with a student about why having gay parents is wrong. Now rather you disagree or agree with that religious sperg isn't the issue and if you're IQ was higher than 3 you would know the real issue is "should ideologies be pushed on young people in a class room?". Thankfully as far as I can tell the majority of takes on this thread were ok-ish. But of course the A&H spergs have to fuck it up. Thread slowly devolves into...well this shit.



TL;DR: A&H filled with people with objectively bad takes, right wing circle jerk, threads have people wanting a serious conversation, baitposters, and ironyposters which leads to massive shitshows, and autism.

Since you apparently feel the need to put my name in your mouth so you can call out for my “objectively bad” “””right wing””” take:

A) I’m definitely not right wing, and I’m barely conservative.

B) Plenty of other people managed to figure out how to downvote it and move on.

And C) I’ve managed to have some pretty meaningful and relevant posts on A&H, so why is it ok for other people to also go and make shitty jokes and no me, huh? Because it hurts your feelings? Or because it aligns with a direction you perceive as ‘bad’ for the board?

There’s plenty of people with different opinions and ideologies from mine making what I consider shit posts or intellectually dishonest arguments, and I don’t feel the need to go whining to mom. Grow up.

D) a thread is “”about”” whatever the people in the thread allow the conversation to encompass. If they don’t want it to be “”about”” something, it’s possible to IGNORE IT, like a grownup.

Eta:
I don’t even recognize your name, and I don’t remember a single post you’ve made on A&H, so clearly you’re contributing even less than me, because you at least remembered what I said.

Now, get my name out of your mouth and don’t drag me into your stupid crusade against... whatever you’re crusading against.

 

[Superman93]

How's your first day on the Internet going?

Pretty bad. I got called the gay a couple of times .

Have you tried? Because I don't think you have. If the majority of the board is filled with content from people that you disagree with, then perhaps you need to consider ignoring the majority of the board.

That's retarded. No one wants to talk to the same 5 users. Hence why I just neglected to post at all and laugh at the autism-spats from a distance.

Oh I dunno man, maybe all of your complaining about "bad takes"? Also those people who said "stupid shit that has nothing to do with the topic" still had something to do with the topic. In the case of the Mark Meechan thread, I wonder how people getting pissed off over alleged antisemitism, and prosecuting a man for having his dog give a nazi salute, has nothing to do with jews or jewish people. Can you explain that?

Again, you're retarded. That thread was about laughing at BritBongs for relinquishing their free speech because someone got the case of angries. He went out of his way to blame the Jews for that problem not the brits is signed and enforced that stupid law which is a bad exceptional take. You can try to reframe that as much as you like but at the end of the day stupid is stupid.

But more importantly than that, you seem to have this idea in your head that your opinion of what "has to do with" a thread in regards to posting content should be what's discussed and all "off-topic" discussion in the thread shouldn't exist. You saying that shitposting in the Greta is somehow problematic because they're not "taking on the shit she's trying to advocate for" is a perfect example of that.

When people say A&H is filled with spergs, /pol/-lite posters, and generally people who have nothing of substance to say the Greta thread and Trevon Martin thread are perfect examples of what they mean. Tell me, what is the point of having 40+ post of "i would bang if she wasn't retarded" or "fuck niggers lol"? At what point does this not get derailing or off-topic? Remember one of the most important rules of the board is:
Don't post if you have nothing to say. If anyone could write your post, it doesn't need to be made.

Okay, great, you've called it out. Now what? Because the only options I can see are:
1) Moderation to "balance it out" aka fairness doctrine for A&H
2) People stop being whiny pussies and post, willing to make the brave sacrifice of getting no-no stickers
3) People stop being whiny pussies and post, putting people whom they don't want to see content from on ignore en-masse so they don't have to deal with the dreaded "circlejerk"
I'd love to know how you'd get people to "post better stuff".

I already told you that the only solution is that people can post better shit. I can't make people post better shit. If you want people to stop bitching, complaining and shitting on you regularly be better. What is it when A&H spergs get criticizes they always assume you want some final solution to the board or something?

Edit: When I said


You completely glossed over that. My points in the post that you originally quoted were directed towards @gobbogobb in relation to the notion that A&H is somehow a "tsunami" that floods into other boards. As in, specifically not problems within A&H. Funny that you'd insult my capacity for reading comprehension after that failure to comprehend both what I was responding to and my response to it.

You quoted me not him you retard. How was I supposed to know you weren't talking to me?

Since you apparently feel the need to put my name in your mouth so you can call out for my “objectively bad” “””right wing””” take:

A) I’m definitely not right wing, and I’m barely conservative.

B) Plenty of other people managed to figure out how to downvote it and move on.

And C) I’ve managed to have some pretty meaningful and relevant posts on A&H, so why is it ok for other people to also go and make shitty jokes and no me, huh? Because it hurts your feelings? Or because it aligns with a direction you perceive as ‘bad’ for the board?

There’s plenty of people with different opinions and ideologies from mine making what I consider shit posts or intellectually dishonest arguments, and I don’t feel the need to go whining to mom. Grow up.

D) a thread is “”about”” whatever the people in the thread allow the conversation to encompass. If they don’t want it to be “”about”” something, it’s possible to IGNORE IT, like a grownup.

Alright lemme just sum this conversation up.

Me: A&H is a good place but man does it has shitty posters.
A&H Poster: Please your just mad about internet stickers and that no one will agree with you.
Me: Idc about that I just want people to post better shit.
A&H Poster: Well name some examples of bad post since A&H is so shit!
Me: *Gives examples
A&H Poster: Well...well....I was just pretending to be exceptional for like 5+ pages!
Me: Well that's gets annoying and people don't like that.

Now from here on out either one or two scenarios are going to happen. Either:

A&H Poster: Well just block me and report me to the mods then!
Me: Nah I wanna call you out for being exceptional.
A&H Poster: F-F-Faggot!
or
A&H Poster: Well just block me and report me to the mods then!
Me: *Reports post to mods
A&H Poster: F-F-Faggot!

 

[gobbogobb]

How do we (rank and file users) fix a&h?

We can't outside of posting better shit. I'm not a mod; you're not a mod. All we can do is state our opinions and let the guy who owns the site do what he wants.

Everyone posting giant textwalls and getting defensive needs to calm down.

 

[Homotherium]

Congratulations, now I had to sign up for this sh*te site.
I consider this a personal low point.
(But where else should I get my news?)

TBH: The Off-Topic Section is probably 50% of the fun on this site for me.

 

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How do we (rank and file users) fix a&h?

We can't outside of posting better shit. I'm not a mod; you're not a mod. All we can do is state our opinions and let the guy who owns the site do what he wants.

Everyone posting giant textwalls and getting defensive needs to calm down.

We can encourage good posters to post more. I always appreciate @Shiversblood's contributions to A&H (and everywhere on the forum)- he is an excellent poster.