Homebrew HRT Community - From mixing estradiol with bioadhesives to cooking plastic bags.

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Time to laugh at trannies brewing their own troonshine because they are cheapskates. This thread is for mockery only, please do not try any recipes yourself. :cunningpepe:

The main types of homebrew troonshine I've seen were either estradiol gel or troonshine injections. Estradiol gel is very easy to make and comparatively requires less sophisticated setups. Injections are not only difficult, they are also horrifying if you know the type of ingredients troons would use.

There was a site last year advertising various sources of HRT, they also had guides on making homebrew troonshine. The site is gone, however, it was all luckily archived.

hrt.cafe | https://archive.md/hrt.cafe
This does not fall under homebrew generally, I simply wanted to analyse the countries guilty of trooning the world with premade eunuch medication. A simple glance reveals Thailand, Hong Kong (Mainland China), EU, India and Brazil as the main sources. I added Mainland China in brackets because many Chinese stores will use Hong Kong as a proxy to circumvent the watchful eye of the CPC.

Chinese Twitter is filled with examples of homebrew HRT.
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A tranny shared his recipe on GitHub (of course). It's some kind of troon estrogen gel.
https://archive.md/Ld4jO
  1. 17-β雌二醇 最便宜的155元/10g 某宝搜CAS 50-28-2有售,直接搜不太好搜到。
  2. 卡波姆980 55元/100g 别贪便宜,有假的,形成不了凝胶。我最后买了进口的,比较贵
  3. 三乙醇胺 11元/100g 同样别贪便宜,我最后用了化学试剂,我买到的用于制作化妆品的便宜的三乙醇胺是黄色的且有异香,而纯品是无色透明的
  4. 蒸馏水 基本不要钱吧 拿饮用水代替也行
  5. 酒精 15元/1L 75%或者95%都行,只要浓度超过60%就ok
Faithful translation (not done by a translator).
1. 17-β Estradiol, cheapest for 155 yuan/10g. Search for CAS 50-28-2 [1] to find it on Taobao, don't search for the keyword estradiol.
2. CAS 54182-57-9, Carbomer 980 [2], 55 yuan/10g. Don't be cheap, there are fake ones which will not form a gel. I purchased imported ones which were expensive.
3. Triethanolamine [3], 11 yuan/g. Don't be cheap, the cheap ones are yellow with a weird odour.
4. Distilled water, free? Just use drinking water instead.
5. Alcohol, 15 yuan/L, 75% or 95%, as long as it's above 60%.

[1]: CAS = chemical abstract service, a registration code used world wide to identify chemicals.
[2]: A type of thickener/gel maker.
[3]: A compound used in many skincare products. Will cause irritation after prolonged use.

Look at his setup. Appalling.
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Two cheap scales, some dirty rod, and a coke bottle with the top sawed off as a makeshift beaker to mix his compounds.

I'm not going to bother with translating the steps, skip to the final result.
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He's using what appears to be a nail polisher to mix his Satanic gel.
Basically, he blended 95% alcohol with estradiol, then added water. After mixing, progressively add in 1g of Carbomer 980, mix well, add the mix to a dispenser, then add in triethanolamine.
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Let's see the glaring reviews of his troon jelly.
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Good riddance.
This troonjelly recipe uses carbomer, you can just see it as a thickener. These come in packs of powder, they are very light and some regulators consider it a microplastic (technically not true).


Time to examine some... estradiol rectal injections.
Yes, some trannies are pumping estradiol up their buttholes. :story:
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Good. Lord.
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Reddit troon mixing crushed estrogen tablets into 3ml of water and ramming it up his anus. :story:
What a freakshow.

I found a site that sells allegedly Sigma-Aldrich estradiol and progesterone in ziploc bags.
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The seller claims to use original Sigma-Aldrich products, but the prices just don't add up. 100g of E-8875 is $3720, $37.2 per gram. How is this legitimate?
Alright, the seller is getting his estradiol from China, it appears. I hope the CPC cracks down on these stores.
https://www.wentaochem.com/products
Shockingly, estradiol is the first result. The list makes no sense, it's not in alphabetical or any order. I can only assume it's ordered by popularity.

Okay, so you thought all of this is beyond disgusting and vile. Good.
Would you like to see more? What if there are troons too cheap to even buy estradiol from various shoddy resources?
Would you like to see how they gain access to estradiol?
No?
Too bad.

Estrogen extraction from urine.
You heard it right, troons are extracting estrogen from piss.
Yes, it is as vile and decrepit as it sounds.
Yeah, that's a big bottle of piss.
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The result will contain lots of impurities. God help whichever troon that decides to embark on Pisslight Troonshine.

This person's website is schizophrenic. Why are Chinese trannies like this?
 
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that's a big bottle of piss.
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Look, I'm not amazed at the piss but the METHANOL. I hope they are using it as a solvent in the HRT, and not for extraction. Put the methanol in the HRT, tranny.

But please look at my recipe. This is the real HRT ingredients that WILL 100% turn you into an ANIME GIRL:
INGREDIENTS: TRANNY CUM, CHLOROFORM , CAT TESTICLE HAIR (MALE), ESTROGEN (PROD.: USSR, 1967), CARBON TETRACHLORIDE, HIV, COCAINE, AMPHETAMINE, PROGESTERONE (PROD.: 1877, OTTOMAN EMPIRE), MONKEYPOX, BIS(CHLOROMETHYL) ETHER, DISSOLVED PVC, SNEED OIL, KEFFALS ASS CRACK SWEAT, 37% FORMALDEHYDE IN METHANOL, TETRACHLOROETHYLENE, SODIUM CYANIDE, LIZ FONG-JONES' NEOVAGINA FLUIDS.

How to get them?
Tranny cum - milk a pre-OP tranny
Chloroform - cook at home
Cat testicle hair - find a male cat on the streets and pull one strand of his balls
Estrogen & progesterone - cook at home if no USSR resources
Carbon Tetrachloride - old fire extinguishers
HIV & monkeypoxxx- again, milk a tranny
Cocaine & amphetamine - call keffals
Bis(chloromethyl) ether - cook at home
Dissolved PVC - buy PVC pellets online
Sneed oil - go to kiwifarms.net sneed.today
Keffals ass crack sweat - doxxx him 482837th time and visit him
37% formaldehyde - sold online (probably)
Tetrachloroethylene - local dry-cleaners
Sodium cyanide - mining sites
Liz Fong-Jones' amhole oil - consent accidents
 
Look, I'm not amazed at the piss but the METHANOL. I hope they are using it as a solvent in the HRT, and not for extraction. Put the methanol in the HRT, tranny.

But please look at my recipe. This is the real HRT ingredients that WILL 100% turn you into an ANIME GIRL:
Sodium and potassium cyanide can also be found in film development labs (darkrooms).
Troons, a small tablespoon will turn you into a real anime girl.
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You can't forget to include a section about people who capitalize on troons stupidity.
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I swear theres money to be made exploiting these dumb sick AGP freaks.
As long as you straight up dont poison them and whatever you sell the marks isn't toxic you're morally in the clear too, its far less harmful than actual foreign hormones would be, really you're helping them to avoid negative effects, everyone wins.
Plus they can't even report you without getting in shit themselves - them trying to buy it is already illegal so they have no leg to stand on, it'd be like calling the cops to complain your crack dealer just sold you bicarbonate of soda.
 
Let us not forget the famous Otokonoko Pharmacy, who had a thread in prospering grounds but got lost. The Brazillian Bathtub pressure cooker troon's claim to fame was these boxes:

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Information on it can be found scattered around the site, including the Keffals OP, the Bobposting thread, and the sideshow general thread. Quotes on a few informative posts:
For the people who haven't heard of Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals:

Excerpt from the OP of Keffals' thread:

As from January 2023 shipments to Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, France, Belgium, Switzerland, Spain, Norway, Finland, Portugal, Austria were cancelled.
It seems that Otokonoko shipped all their goods for all or most EU countries to one address in Belgium and from there it got re-distributed:

just popping in here to let y'all know that according to this website Otokonoko products are free of "harmful or unexpected compounds" (atleast the estradiol enanthate)

the Otokonoko website also states they don't ship to minors, yet there's nothing stopping a minor from somehow buying some crypto and buying products from there, lying about their age, so I don't get how they identify who's a minor and who's not
besides the appeal of homemade HRT for troon children is evident (you can go to r/transDIY and check the profiles of the posts there and you can see for yourself)
 
The Brazillian Bathtub pressure cooker troon's claim to fame was these boxes
He never disclosed what's in his bootleg huehuehue troonshine, which makes me want to get a sample for a Raman Spectroscopy test. Unfortunately, it's probably impossible to do this anonymously.

Edit: Should have read the entire post.
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So they did a GC-MS, that's even better than Raman Spectroscopy.

I'll see if have the time to look closer later.
 
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Nice, this thread is long overdue. There was a lot of discussion about DIY HRT in the Bobposting thread, if anyone cares to mine it.
Thanks to @AltisticRight, we know that China has recently outlawed the sale of estradiol without a valid prescription. Many DIY HRT manufacturers relied on importing raw estradiol powder from China, so I'm looking forward to troons coping & seething about it as their troonshine supply dries up. The TransDIY subreddit is a good place to keep an eye on. The subreddit's Wiki also has a ton of information.

And a bit of a personal request: I remember years ago that a particular Ukrainian DIY HRT manufacturer named Lena was very popular among Reddit troons. Anyone know what happened with him? I imagine the war impacted his operations, lol.

Let us not forget the famous Otokonoko Pharmacy
Here's his troonshine recipe:
https://archive.is/78049
Hi, I'm a trans girl and I started making my "own" hormones some months ago, It all started with me trying to save some money, and it really helped me a lot in that regard, nowadays my entire HRT regimen (Dutasteride, Estradiol, Progesterone, medroxiprogesterone and Testosterone for ED) is homemade. so I would recommend anyone to try at least once, because it's much cheaper than buying on drugstores (and even cheaper than buying from Lena or from me, really each 10ml vial cost something closer to 3 Dollars)
Every ingredient can be bought from Amazon. (except the raw powder that you can find on Alibaba, most suppliers there are trustable don't worry, but if you want I can give some recommendations)
What you'll need
Oil injections:
-Benzyl benzoate
-Benzyl alcohool
-Raw powder
-Carrier oil
Aqueous suspension: -Distilled water
-Benzyl alcohool
-Soy lecitin
-Sodium Sulfate anhydrous
-Polyethylene glycol 4000
-raw powder
Materials: - .45 needles (for retaining bigger particles, filters are not really necessary)
  • Beaker
  • 10ml vials
  • glass stick (for mixing it, you can use a spoon, but glass is preferred)
  • vial crimper (optional you can crimp with a knife)
-Ethanol (for sterilizing the materials beforehand)
Recipe for Estradiol 100ml, 40mg/ml:
This works with any E ester (Cypionate, Valerate etc).
  • Estradiol Valerate - 4000mg
  • Benzyl benzoate (Solvent) - 44%
  • Benzyl alcohol - 2% (if you pretend to store for a really long time 4 years+, I personally recommend 4% just to be sure)
  • Carrier Oil (any oil can be used, but I recommend MCT or at least Safflower Oil) - 50.38 ml
Recipe for Progesterone 100 50mg/ml
Because BB is used for solving Esterified components, it isn't used for pure progesterone, instead I use a higher dose of BA.
  • Progesterone - 5000mg
  • Benzyl Alcohool - 10%
  • Carrier Oil - 85.52ml
Recipe for Aqueous Suspension 100ml
I use Aqueous suspension for Medroxiprogesterone acetate, but the same can be used for Estradiol, progesterone(you can, but it hurts like hell, hormones without ester will always hurt) if you have some problems with oil injections (if you're brave enough, you could even try dutasteride injections with it)
  • Distilled water - 100ml
  • Soy lecitin - 2% (this one was a find of mine, most other recipes for aqueous suspension asks for Polissorbate 80 which is really hard to find over here, but soy lecitin is cheap and works really nice)
  • Benzyl Alcohool 2% (this one if you put more, or less, the suspension won't work)
  • Sodium Sulfate anhydrous - 3g (30mg/ml)
  • Polyethylene glycol 4000 - 4g (40mg/ml) If you can't find Pg4000, 3350, or other above 3000 they work the same.
How to Make them
The procces is fairly simple,
  • Oil just mix it all in Beaker (or any Glassware you have) and give it a water bath for 15~30 minutes, when you finish it just put in some flask and to sterelize you can take to the oven for 30 minutes at 230º (it's overkill, if you store the powder in a safe space and clean everything, just heating in a water bath would kill most bacteria)
  • Aqueous Suspension put everything in a beaker, (except the hormone powder), heat it in a water bath, until the lecitin is mostly dissolved (part of the lecitin will be floating over the water and won't dissolve, that is normal, and you won't be using that), take all the water and put in a flask with the hormones of your choice, mix it and if you want to sterelize it you can use a pressure cooker for 5 minutes after getting pressurized (Otherwise the flask can break because of internal pression)
That's all, Thank you for you time, I hope with this info, more people will start to make their own hormones, if someone has any questions I will gladly answer them.
Here just an image of my HRT: https://imgur.com/a/kmRenqD
A couple other posts I made about the Otokonoko troon: [1] [2]
That second link discusses how he imports estradiol from Beijing Yibai Biotechnology Co., Ltd. in China.

I'm kinda crossing my fingers that we'll see the return of semi-legendary troonshine recipes like extracting xenoestrogens by boiling plastic bags. :optimistic: Maybe some particularly stupid & desperate troons will try it.
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I wholeheartedly support the Troonshine movement. These HRT brewing information should be known by every single tranny. Make it a cult like the speakeasies from the Prohibition era. With this, we might be able to turn that 41% to 42% or higher.

Thank you for documenting this lunatic concoction from the depth of hell. I am looking forward for more outlandish and lethal recipes to surface.
 
Here's Lena, the troon from Ukraine, his Troonshine recipe.

"Here I describe Do-It-Yourself hormonal treatment for male-to-female transsexuals:
be your own gatekeeper, endocrinologist, pharmacist and nurse.
Cook injectable estradiol by yourself. Safer, more effective and unbelievably cheaper than relying on medical professionals."
:story:


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"I have over 3300 satisfied customers. I lost count how many times I was called lifesaver, fairy godmother, angel, godsend, saint." :story:
More here: https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojh...y-bob-smith-huai-ze-dong.100289/post-12966351
 
(double post because I can't edit my previous post to insert a quote)

And a bit of a personal request: I remember years ago that a particular Ukrainian DIY HRT manufacturer named Lena was very popular among Reddit troons. Anyone know what happened with him? I imagine the war impacted his operations, lol.

The archived link from my previous post is from Oct 2022 and there he says he cannot sell anymore:
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I checked his wiki again and it seems he's selling again. Not sure if he's back in Kiev.
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Updated archive: https://archive.is/CNaoN
 
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