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Starting a batch of mead today with a buddy who's done it before. Going to be putting some chopped kiwi fruit in it since it was the most exotic fruit the local grocery store had and we wanted a fruit to put in it. Also have a second kit that is 5 gallons on the way for a more traditional mead recipe that I found in an old cookbook.
 
My peach/brown sugar wine is turning out pretty good, even though it’s 13% it’s sweet with good flavors. I have two and a half gallons just aging, so far it’s a success. My genuine opinion, I need to add cinnamon but I’ll see later.
I also started a batch of fruit cocktail cider with some more brown sugar. Canned fruit cocktail, good ingredients, I am a couponer. But, I added some rose petals I got from the nice spice shop and never did anything with aside from a good dessert one time.
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To prevent messes I pitched the yeast in a five gallon jug and saved a gallon that I added back in later. I also blended the fruit cocktail, this is going to sit for a while and it will all drift to the bottom.
 
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Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
 
Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
yes! I used my local grocery store's apple cider (think like Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, its a really yuppie kinda place) and Premier blanc. It turned out very dry and very good. I let it age for about 3 months and then that's when it hit its peak. I've also done Treetop with the same yeast and that turned out pretty good as well.
 
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Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
I used a random apple cider brand that my store was selling( one of the cheaper brands). I didn't write what yeast I used(i'm an idiot) for it but I know it was a variety that works well with apples as that is what I looked up before making it. It fermented dry with a light-medium body, I back sweetened it and its very nice chilled.
 
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Tech Ingredients on YouTube recently came out with a video on making Sake and they covered quite a few things in there on flocculants too and even talked about using egg white or gelatin for it. His take on bubble locks, in my belief, is only really valid in more temperate parts of the world where fungus gnats and small bugs are less of an issue. My bubble locks always would get fungus gnats and fruit flies into them and I was brewing indoors and without that lock it'd ruin the booze. It's just that they're such small flies that they get in when you open a door or through even a tiny crack in your window or AC vent and the smell of fermentation is the most pleasant smell imaginable for them.

Also the leftover rice he threw away could be dried and used as feed, since this is the self-sufficiency board. It'd be loaded with B-vitamins and could also be cooked and eaten by people in times when you're scarce on animal products or if you're a vegetarian.
He's also done a number of videos on distillation and one really good one with his reflux distiller. Forgive me if it's all been posted in the thread already and I missed it.
The playlist of their distilling content is here.
 
Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
I'm currently working on this and should be bottling at the start of next month, but have no idea what to expect. I used apple cider from a local orchard with Lalvin 71B and Fermaid O nutrient. I've made mead before but this is my first time attempting cider.
 
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@Troonos So final update on the cranberry mead: it stalled a few times but I was able to get it a final gravity of 1.015. I oaked it with 1/3 of a dark roast french roast spiral for 2 months. I finally slowly backsweetened with about 1/2 a cup of clover honey tasting as I went (it came out to about 1.025 gravity) and it came out great! The oaking really made a difference and I'm looking forward to experimenting with it in future brews thank you for introducing it to me. Thank you again for the recipe.
 
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@Troonos So final update on the cranberry mead: it stalled a few times but I was able to get it a final gravity of 1.015. I oaked it with 1/3 of a dark roast french roast spiral for 2 months. I finally slowly backsweetened with about 1/2 a cup of clover honey tasting as I went (it came out to about 1.025 gravity) and it came out great! The oaking really made a difference and I'm looking forward to experimenting with it in future brews thank you for introducing it to me. Thank you again for the recipe.
Great to hear, buddy.

I actually visited Ken Schramm, who literally wrote the bible on modern meadmaking. Despite being considered the greatest mead maker in the country, he's very happy to share his technique, and it's totally transformed the way I brew.

So instead of fermenting dry, stabilizing, then backsweetening, I now add an excess of fermentables and rely on Delle Stability (a specific zone on a graph of ABV and residual sugar that inhibits further fermentation) to stop the fermentation where I mathematically planned for it to happen. This means no stabilizers are necessary. So I'm starting my meads at super high ABV now, in the 1.160-1.165 range, and they tend to naturally stop in the 1.050-1.060 range because I know the ABV tolerance of my yeast.

I've also switched from classic TOSNA feeding, where you feed just Fermaid O at 24, 48, 72, 96 hours, to feeding a mix of Fermaid O and DAP in double doses at 0 and 24 hours, then single doses at 48 and 72 hours.

Instead of adding 1-3 pounds of fruit per gallon in the secondary for 1-2 weeks, I now ferment on the fruit at a rate of 8-11 pounds per gallon depending on the fruit, and it stays on the fruit for an entire month. This amount means there's massive fruit flavor extracted, plus you get the tannic value from the fruit flesh. The fruit has to be punched down once a day for two weeks to prevent mold growth.

No acid balance needed, as the fruits contribute enough acidity. Lots of tannins from the fruit, but I may still rest on oak for some batches.

With this technique, it's like you're drinking pure alcoholic fruit. I've never tasted anything as amazing as Schramm's meads.

Current project is 1.5 gallons of Bananas Foster mead that used 12 pounds of bananas. Now it's sitting on rum-soaked rum barrel oak, and soon I'll add a ceylon cinnamon stick.

Next project is ordering 37 pounds of frozen raspberries to make a pure raspberry mead.
 
I stopped drinking except to try my brews, now I have gallons and gallons of delicious sweet homebrew wines stacking up on shelves everywhere. It's a real problem.
If you won't drink them, gift them to friends who drink. Otherwise, try using them in food. I find using mead in food gives it a nice, sweet taste which can be balanced out by spicy or sour or whatever. Hell, the one time a batch went bad and became vinegar, it fulfilled both the sweet AND sour parts of the cook.
 
Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
I have, you gotta look out for certain chemicals that prevent yeast growth. I bought stupid expensive stuff from Whole foods cuz I was dumb. Turned out decent though. Spent a day just drinking it with a big pork loin and managed vidya ogres.
 
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Random question, but has anyone here made cider with store bought apple juice? If so, which type did you use, and what yeast did you use with it?
Best result will be had with bread yeast and honeycrisp apple juice. I had a cider batch hit 20% ABV with lots of yeast and yeast nutrient (I used Red Star Premier Cuvee and Fermax).

Like another user said, you have to be careful about which apple juice you buy. Stuff like potassium sorbate will prevent fermentation because it kills the yeast.
 
I have a lot of crabapples and a burning hatred for the government, how hard would it be to make a calvados style product? how hard is distilling? will I die?
 
You will not kill yourself drinking moonshine, home distillers do not really have to worry about methanol. In fact, actually making usable amounts of methanol is a very difficult process compared to ethanol, and it involves special yeasts and vast quantities of paper industry wood pulp waste. Moreover, the antidote to methanol poisoning is...lots and lots of ethanol. It's more important to learn to make cuts to get the right mix of heads, hearts, and tails. Too much and you will get off flavors and headaches, too little and your hooch will taste flat. Homedistiller.org has a ton of info and is a great place to start. I highly recommend the bokakob still design for newbies. It's simple, much more space-efficient than a traditional pot still, and a basic one can be made with stuff you can get at the hardware store.

As for the sorbate preservatives, you can get rid of them by repeatedly airing out and racking your apple juice (before adding yeast) but it's not worth it. You're better off getting raw cider from a farmstand or even an upscale grocery store than trying to get the preservatives out of commercial stuff.
 
don't have a ton to add, but I just wanted to tell you that you have amazingly good taste. Muscadines are amazing for wine, brandy or jelly/jam.
I hate muscadines. They have such a weird pungent flavor that tastes like a saccharin fart.

Anyway, my Korean work colleague and I have been making a few batches of makgeolli (막걸리), or Korean rice wine. We're experimenting between using nuruk (누룩, lacto-malted wheat), diastatic malt powder, and pure isolated amylase and glucoamylase. All three of these techniques are used to supply the enzymes that convert the rice's starch into fermentable sugars for the yeast to eat.

It comes out a bit sour, but I lagered it for a couple of weeks, and now it tastes like a commercial nigori sake. Even better with a bit of allulose for added sweetness, since makgeolli is a live drink, so sugar would just get fermented out.

We're trying to be fairly traditional, so we're still rinsing, soaking, and steaming sweet glutinous rice to make it with. We're using the sugok method now, where instead of pitching nuruk directly into the rice, we soak double the dose of nuruk in water for a long time and then strain out and dispose of the solids. This extracts the enzymes into the water, but reduces the lactobacillus content that would produce lactic acid and make it sour.
 
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