How are you dealing with the conservatives being completely right about faggots?

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Thinking that gay people don't end up causing problems is even more exceptional, especially when you are putting them in a position where people are scared to criticize them.

It isn't the gay that is the problem. It's putting anyone on a pedestal.

That's why idolatry is bad.

You shouldn't make people, places or things (including ideas) sacred for a reason. People just wind up doing terrible things in the name of their holy cows and the "priests who speak on their behalf".
 
Sure, you'll still have gay people, but it shouldn't be something so constantly on everyone's mind, and it certainly shouldn't be something we teach our children is "just as good as anything else." Why should we teach our children not to have grandchildren? We do ourselves a great disservice, especially in times of high immigration.

Let's just teach faggotry to the immigrants, then. Get two birds stoned at once.

So, when the schools teach Elementary and Middle schoolers about Greek history and teach Man-boy relationships (forget the word they use to make it more palpable and seem like a legitimate orientation) like it's just a normal sexual orientation, is that not pedophilia to you either?

🤔 Where are you getting this shit? Like where is this happening?

Also, it's probably just because I hate you but, are you a gay furry? Because you remind me a lot of the few gay furries I've interacted with.

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Let's just teach faggotry to the immigrants, then. Get two birds stoned at once.

Hell, if we could teach them that, it means they were probably legitimately able to integrate anyway...


🤔 Where are you getting this shit? Like where is this happening?

In California, here's something from one of their lesson plans. I wouldn't be surprised if I get some details wrong, but this is right from their lesson plan.[/QUOTE]
 
Notice the current push to have increasingly more and more perverted shit be accepted? Kinda comes with the territory. I think that's a lesson we should learn. Do I really think we need to go out of our to kill all the gay or significantly oppress them (other than social stigma), not really also
I treat gay and even transfags with just as much respect as anyone else IRL (assuming they can act like reasonable people) I've even been polite and courteous to furries IRL - that one I'm not too proud of)

Sure, you'll still have gay people, but it shouldn't be something so constantly on everyone's mind, and it certainly shouldn't be something we teach our children is "just as good as anything else." Why should we teach our children not to have grandchildren? We do ourselves a great disservice, especially in times of high immigration.
That is one of the main problems: they keep pushing even more degenerate shit despite all that has happened. Anyone with a couple of braincells still active would think "Maybe we should slow down a bit" but with these people becoming vocal so do the fringe groups of truly sick degenerates that inhabit in the corner, and they also want to be accepted or they will go and cry discimination. And the snowball will keep rolling for the sake of "acceptance", because you don't want to be a dick to anybody just because they like to fuck children, don't you?

It isn't the gay that is the problem. It's putting anyone on a pedestal.

That's why idolatry is bad.
This is another huge problem. These days we all see that people want to feel awfully special and be unique, so they make their whole life revolve around what they want to get laid with. They want to be idolatrized to be "outside the norm" and when that becomes accepted, they have to become something even more weird. You don't want to blend in and be a normal fucking human being, you want to stand out among everyone.
 
How come everytime I see you, you're promoting the most despicable forms of faggotry (either literal or just commy bullshit)?

Teaching dildos, anal sex, and masturbation to elementary and middle schoolers, isn't proper education. CERTAINLY when it's done by the state. That's for the parents to deal with, if at all. But whatever Mommy Government needs to take care of that lesson, just like that they need to take care of everything else, don't they princess?

So, when the schools teach Elementary and Middle schoolers about Greek history and teach Man-boy relationships (forget the word they use to make it more palpable and seem like a legitimate orientation) like it's just a normal sexual orientation, is that not pedophilia to you either?


Also, it's probably just because I hate you but, are you a gay furry? Because you remind me a lot of the few gay furries I've interacted with.

I'm fine with middle schoolers learning about anal. Might prevent some unwanted pregnancies that way. Dildos, whatever. But its incredibly bold of you to assume I'm a fucking pedophile because I want young people properly educated on shit the internet will expose them to anyway. If the parent wants to sperg out because they don't want to face the fact that little Timmy and Sally know more about the reproductive system than they do its their choice. They can homeschool them or lock hands with Muslim fundamentalists in throwing a hissyfit.

This education=propaganda mindset is exactly why America is plagued with people who unironically use the word degenerate in normal conversation like it means something. Teaching about something doesn't equal endorsement. For instance teaching the fact that pederasty existed in Greek times doesn't mean you're promoting boy-fucking. This line of logic is precisely why so many young conservatives actually think "muh degeneracy" is a product of some modern jewish conspiracy and not a long-running, ancient part of humanity. When people are ignorant of history they become useful pawns and are unable to make decisions for themselves. The only cure is education.

I ain't pushing shit, just voicing my opinion. I apologize that this wasn't the echo-chamber you wanted. I am a pretty huge faggot tho, so good eye?
 
I'm fine with middle schoolers learning about anal. Might prevent some unwanted pregnancies that way. Dildos, whatever. But its incredibly bold of you to assume I'm a fucking pedophile because I want young people properly educated on shit the internet will expose them to anyway. If the parent wants to sperg out because they don't want to face the fact that little Timmy and Sally know more about the reproductive system than they do its their choice. They can homeschool them or lock hands with Muslim fundamentalists in throwing a hissyfit.

This education=propaganda mindset is exactly why America is plagued with people who unironically use the word degenerate in normal conversation like it means something. Teaching about something doesn't equal endorsement. For instance teaching the fact that pederasty existed in Greek times doesn't mean you're promoting boy-fucking. This line of logic is precisely why so many young conservatives actually think "muh degeneracy" is a product of some modern jewish conspiracy and not a long-running, ancient part of humanity. When people are ignorant of history they become useful pawns and are unable to make decisions for themselves. The only cure is education.

I ain't pushing shit, just voicing my opinion. I apologize that this wasn't the echo-chamber you wanted. I am a pretty huge faggot tho, so good eye?
Sex ed is a very touchy subject for many but i support it in the sense that teens will still have sex anyways. Why not tell them to have responsible sex so they don't end up with unwanted pregnancies? Same goes for the accessibility of condoms for young people and parents and teachers being outraged at it because they think you are encouraging them to have sex all the time instead of helping them avoid pregnancies and STDs.

Sex ed can help many teens when it comes to their first relationship or with their sexual orientation when their parents might be reluctant to discuss the subject (and let's assume it, they will be in a sense) and leave their children in the dark not knowing how to deal with the urges of having pee pee friction pleasure with that girl they fancy so much.
 
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In California, here's something from one of their lesson plans. I wouldn't be surprised if I get some details wrong, but this is right from their
Yeah there's your problem. You're sticking your head in the oven and complaining that it's too hot. California is as liberal as it gets, barely any other schools do this and the ones that do get shat on- Just look at Birmingham (UK).
 
How come everytime I see you, you're promoting the most despicable forms of faggotry (either literal or just commy bullshit)?

Teaching dildos, anal sex, and masturbation to elementary and middle schoolers, isn't proper education. CERTAINLY when it's done by the state. That's for the parents to deal with, if at all. But whatever Mommy Government needs to take care of that lesson, just like that they need to take care of everything else, don't they princess?

So, when the schools teach Elementary and Middle schoolers about Greek history and teach Man-boy relationships (forget the word they use to make it more palpable and seem like a legitimate orientation) like it's just a normal sexual orientation, is that not pedophilia to you either?


Also, it's probably just because I hate you but, are you a gay furry? Because you remind me a lot of the few gay furries I've interacted with.

Now we're going after sex ed? For fuck's sake....

I admit that teaching about anal sex and dildos are a bad idea at the elementary/middle school levels but why complain about teaching about normal sex, reproduction, and masturbation?

I've got no problem with that since it can help prevent the spread of STD's and underage pregnancies.

Let's face it, most kids are curious to know where babies come from and most people start masturbating around the later middle school years.

We also live in an age where internet porn is all too easily accessible and I'd rather have a licensed and vetted professional teach my kids about sex than videos on Pornhub.

As for stuff like anal sex or oral sex?

Eh, I can maybe accept teaching that in high school sex ed since teenagers are horny and we live in an age of digital degeneracy.

I mean, blowjobs and anal sex aren't exactly vanilla but I wouldn't really call them full-blown degenerate fetishes either, and again, it can be used as a countermeasure against the very real issue of teen pregnancy since several jurisdictions don't sell condoms to anyone under 18 (and truck stop vending machine condoms are notoriously unreliable compared to the stuff you buy off the shelf at a pharmacy)


I don't see why they teach dildo nonsense since you can't buy those if you're underage and that actually is kind of skeevy and degenerate.

Whether we like it or not, there will always be teenagers going out and fucking. It's inevitable, and we might as well mitigate the risk factors and teach safe sex to prevent the spread of diseases and teen pregnancy.

Abstinence-only sex ed has proven to be an utter failure, especially in the age of internet porn and I'd wager that a lot of the weird sexual hangups common among Millennials (especially SJW's) is due to being the first generation to have easy access to hardcore internet porn while simultaneously being the last generation to have abstinence-only sex ed be a common occurrence.

I do believe parents should be the main ones teaching their kids about sex, but let's face it, if the parents won't teach their kids about sex, someone else will and I'd rather it be the schools than the internet.
 
This education=propaganda mindset is exactly why America is plagued with people who unironically use the word degenerate in normal conversation like it means something.
This is hilarious coming from a guy who is anarcho-socialist-communist-whatever (partly) because it appeals to him being a furry.
 
I dont see what that would accomplish.

There is a high chance that kids will see porn before they leave primary school. Talking about porn and it's contents with them could prevent warped views of sex or their own body-image. Sooner or later they will try things out showed in porn. At least explain to them how they won't destroy their assholes and tell them about the health risks of anal sex or oral sex.
 
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There is a high chance that kids will see porn before they leave primary school. Talking about porn and it's contents with them could prevent warped views of sex or their own body-image. Sooner or later they will try things out showed in porn. At least explain to them how they won't destroy their assholes and tell them about the health risks of anal sex or oral sex.
Well, maybe you are correct. If the exposure of sexual content to young children is inevitable anyway, and it may very well be, then ultimately you are right.
Here is some food for thought though. Such a solution cannot be implemented, at least not universally, unless a transformation of society and it's power structures is done. If you gave the current actors that are in power (the "establishment") more reign to implement sexual education it would just be used to push more harmful sexual ideas on children, thus worsening the problem instead of ameliorating it. And if society is transformed through a social revolution? Well then I believe the backlash from such a social revolution would label your proposal as far too "degenerate" and sexually liberal to be tolerated. Furthermore, the pornographic industry would likely be defunded in such a scenario hopefully making your proposal obsolescent. I.e, I dont see any scenario where anyone in any position of power would ever be willing to entertain your proposal honestly.
 
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When are we getting to the point of the slipper slope that marriage to animals is happening? I need the love between me and Sally the Sheep to be recognised by God and Law.
 
Lot of people instantly proved OP right. This site is essentially a documentation of the slippery slope fallacy to do with fags.

I can't think of a person I know who is genuinely anti LGBT and yet more and more I think back to OP's point. The conservative nutwings were right. Now obviously they didn't base it in reality, you can look at their arguments to see they didn't have reasoning. But do white blood cells think about what they do?

I guess I'd call this the Germany problem

You go to hard on them the first time (police gay bashing and demonizing in media vs treaty of Versailles) and then you feel so bad for fucking them up so much you completely cuck and fail to stop the over correction (current year vs WW2.)

France was an absolute cunt to Germany, they literally wanted the nation completely gone they were so afraid. Their fears proven all to real in 1939, but caused only by their own previous actions.
 
When are we getting to the point of the slipper slope that marriage to animals is happening? I need the love between me and Sally the Sheep to be recognised by God and Law.
The people wanting to marry their waifu pillows and sex robots will probably come first. You and Sally will have to wait, unfortunately. ): I'm sure your love is strong enough to last until it can be official though!
 
First off, I love how everyone is just totally okay with giving their kids totally unfiltered access to the internet pretty much from fucking birth. That's it's own fucking problem, though.

I'm fine with middle schoolers learning about anal. Might prevent some unwanted pregnancies that way. Dildos, whatever. But its incredibly bold of you to assume I'm a fucking pedophile because I want young people properly educated on shit the internet will expose them to anyway. If the parent wants to sperg out because they don't want to face the fact that little Timmy and Sally know more about the reproductive system than they do its their choice. They can homeschool them or lock hands with Muslim fundamentalists in throwing a hissyfit.

Ah, yes, because we should teach kids that it's perfectly cool to shove things in your ass. Obviously their are no consquences. It's not talked about that often, but there are tons of gay men who are incontinent (MEANING THEY SHIT THEMSELVES) later in life.


This education=propaganda mindset is exactly why America is plagued with people who unironically use the word degenerate in normal conversation like it means something. Teaching about something doesn't equal endorsement. For instance teaching the fact that pederasty existed in Greek times doesn't mean you're promoting boy-fucking. This line of logic is precisely why so many young conservatives actually think "muh degeneracy" is a product of some modern jewish conspiracy and not a long-running, ancient part of humanity. When people are ignorant of history they become useful pawns and are unable to make decisions for themselves. The only cure is education.


Checks out as a comment made by someone who wants to hug very tightly to the state's nutsack and be fed their cum every night. "Please teach my children how to think and feel about social and political issues. I don't want that responsibility. Please Mommy government, you'd never hurt us or lead us astray!"

Well when they are teaching it under the section of "LGBT" in history under the same umbrella as the first gay kiss on film and shit. It doesn't exactly sound like they are condemning like they should. Especially when the whole fucking program is to teach you that you better accept all manners of sexual depravity and not have a goddamn thing to say about it.

So yes, sometimes propaganda IS wrapped up as 'education'

I ain't pushing shit, just voicing my opinion. I apologize that this wasn't the echo-chamber you wanted. I am a pretty huge faggot tho, so good eye?


Well, sure, maybe YOU aren't going out and telling kids how to feel about gay people, but plenty of faggots are.


Now we're going after sex ed? For fuck's sake....

I admit that teaching about anal sex and dildos are a bad idea at the elementary/middle school levels but why complain about teaching about normal sex, reproduction, and masturbation?

I've got no problem with that since it can help prevent the spread of STD's and underage pregnancies.

Let's face it, most kids are curious to know where babies come from and most people start masturbating around the later middle school years.

We also live in an age where internet porn is all too easily accessible and I'd rather have a licensed and vetted professional teach my kids about sex than videos on Pornhub.

As for stuff like anal sex or oral sex?

Eh, I can maybe accept teaching that in high school sex ed since teenagers are horny and we live in an age of digital degeneracy.

I mean, blowjobs and anal sex aren't exactly vanilla but I wouldn't really call them full-blown degenerate fetishes either, and again, it can be used as a countermeasure against the very real issue of teen pregnancy since several jurisdictions don't sell condoms to anyone under 18 (and truck stop vending machine condoms are notoriously unreliable compared to the stuff you buy off the shelf at a pharmacy)


I don't see why they teach dildo nonsense since you can't buy those if you're underage and that actually is kind of skeevy and degenerate.

Whether we like it or not, there will always be teenagers going out and fucking. It's inevitable, and we might as well mitigate the risk factors and teach safe sex to prevent the spread of diseases and teen pregnancy.

Abstinence-only sex ed has proven to be an utter failure, especially in the age of internet porn and I'd wager that a lot of the weird sexual hangups common among Millennials (especially SJW's) is due to being the first generation to have easy access to hardcore internet porn while simultaneously being the last generation to have abstinence-only sex ed be a common occurrence.

I do believe parents should be the main ones teaching their kids about sex, but let's face it, if the parents won't teach their kids about sex, someone else will and I'd rather it be the schools than the internet.


I'm not against sex-ed as a whole, but I think it should be taught reasonably. It almost seems like you don't disagree too much, but are maybe misunderstanding what I was getting at.


I just think sex-ed should be about teaching the very basics: always wear a condom, don't masturbate too much or your dick won't work right, and lubrication helps. Abstinence only is bullshit, obviously, what living creature isn't going to have the urge to reproduce.

I also think that public school sex-ed should be entirely optional. As in, you have to opt your kid INTO it, as opposed to have to opt them out. The norm should be parents teaching their own children about sex. Also, maybe have people who come around to different public schools, instead of having some shitcunt gym teacher come in and pretend to be a professional on the subject for the week, like most of these places do.


What I REALLY don't like is kids being taught about gay sex, and how it's just as normal and good as actual people sex.
 
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