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We also have, the horrors, MIXED SEX WARDS now with trannies insisting on it, and we even had mixed sex before that in the uk because of lack of resources or other insanity.
The ward where my now ex got sent for anxiety-yapping thinking she'd get help instead of 72h of shit was mixed sex. We do that retard shit here.
Big 6'6" retard niggerfaggot (white) shaking as he comes down off the opiates bullied her into her own room in front of a nurse's station. He only stopped when I was present and glaring at him and saying magic words to nurses. Among other jogged memories was the people there for depression getting angrier and angrier as the cons and rough-trashy-types coming down off of drugs bullied those people for having sadbrian.
My now ex would call and cry when allowed.
My now ex was extremely suicidal when she got out. Impulsive gigantic tattoo on her thigh. I had to be stuck to her like white on rice to keep her from attempting for weeks. That fits the data I now know precisely.
The aristocrats!
I say this as someone who would actually bring back asylums (heavily reformed) as well
OpenDialog and Soteria work. They work by being places you choose to go to that offer help instead of regimenting it like you're not even lab mice. And they work well with tons of studies that nobody but you will read, lol.
OH WAIT, YOU CAN READ!
Open Dialogue (Finland, 1980s-present)
Developed by Jaakko Seikkula and team at Keropudas Hospital, Tornio, Finland. Crisis response within 24 hours. Meet in the patient's home. Include family and social network. Avoid hospitalization. Minimize medication.
Results from Western Lapland (the only region where OD covered entire adolescent psychiatric services):
- 2-year and 5-year follow-ups: OD patients more likely to be free of psychotic symptoms, more likely to return to work or study full-time, less likely to be on disability, required less medication. Duration of untreated psychosis dropped to 3 weeks.
- 19-year follow-up (Bergström et al. 201
: Register-based cohort of all 108 first-episode psychosis patients. Compared to all other Finnish FEP patients. Lower mortality, less psychiatric treatment needed, fewer disability allowances.
- 10-year adolescent outcomes (Bergström et al. 2022): Less use of mental health services and fewer disability allowances compared to rest of Finland.
Soteria (USA 1971, Switzerland 1984, now global)
Founded by Loren Mosher (NIMH). Community house, home-like environment, primarily non-medical staff, no restraint facilities, minimal or no antipsychotic medication. The theory is " 'being with' the person in crisis rather than suppressing the crisis chemically." Kind of like how you tell people to not drink so they actually grieve.
- Bola & Mosher (2003) RCT: Soteria patients showed equivalent or better outcomes after 6 weeks without medication compared to treatment as usual. Small to medium effects on general functioning maintained at 2-year follow-up.
- Soteria Berne (Ciompi et al.): Equal and partly better outcomes compared to traditional methods, with significantly lower doses of antipsychotics and comparable daily costs. Running since 1984 - 32+ years of continuous operation.
- 2026 naturalistic cohort study (Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology): Soteria compared to care-as-usual for early episode psychosis, 2-year follow-up, recovery-oriented outcomes measured.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1414694/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9970092/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-026-03081-9
So yeah. Very few people really 'need' or get benefit from total institutionalization. Total institutionalization fucks people up. It institutionalizes them.
When you actually look at the alternatives, it's pretty clear that there's really no justification for wards as they exist. With reform, they're still useful for a few things, granted the moment you're stable you're out, not after x hours or y days (or z insurance dollars left to bill):
Catatonia requiring ECT or IV benzodiazepines
Psychosis so severe the person cannot maintain basic self-care or orient to reality at all
Acute medical complications of psychiatric conditions (NMS, serotonin syndrome, lethal catatonia, severe malnutrition from ED requiring medical monitoring)
That's not a lot of people! Hell, the ED thing can probably be fixed with "a chubby old grandma" who knows how to fatten people up and hug them and sit on a rocking chair.
FUCKING Hell.