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I think my difficulty comes from a combination of being naturally shy, and damage done by spending formative years on tumblr, where the radfem points of "men are trash" as well as "men should always be considered predatory" were inescapable. I've spent a lot of time trying to unlearn those messages, but the impact was significant (especially so that those messages are still being promoted today). It's still difficult for me to approach people IRL. But I'm in a much better place than I was a few years ago.
That's really interesting, I've heard this from quite a few people I know. If you haven't read it I would highly suggest this blog post by Scott Alexander from a few years back. I think you'd find a lot of it impactful and very relevant to what you're experiencing.


If you were asking me what I think the problem is for people starting relationships generally, I have no insight.
That sounds frustrating, because I'm sure if you knew, you'd do whatever you could to fix it. I wish I had an answer to give you.
 
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I've stopped enjoying much of anything at all. Stuff like vidya or anime can only distract me for short periods of time. Even music which I've always loved listening to is starting to lose it's grasp on me. I'm running out of options now. I desperately want to find a boyfriend in real life, and my hope is that having someone to love and care about might bring back some amount of happiness. Sadly I have no way to find a boy at the moment. If I do manage to find a guy that I actually like and can carry the weight of fixing me then I think I might be able to be somewhat happy again. If it doesn't work out though, then I think my only options are alcoholism, asceticism, being institutionalized, and suicide.

I'm praying things work out before I reach the final option.
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I'm feeling a bit sad. It's awful to drown on the Atlantic sea at night, but it also must be awful to be on the first lifeboats and watch everything just sink. I have planned to start donating quality food to food banks. I'm not rich, but I think I can spare 100 bucks a month for meat and milk and tomato sauce.
 
That's really interesting, I've heard this from quite a few people I know. If you haven't read it I would highly suggest this blog post by Scott Alexander from a few years back. I think you'd find a lot of it impactful and very relevant to what you're experiencing.



That sounds frustrating, because I'm sure if you knew, you'd do whatever you could to fix it. I wish I had an answer to give you.
Oh wow. Yeah, a lot in that post rings very, very true.
 
So even if I fail... I still have a job. I walk back and forth between what I actually want but I absolutely hate losing and dont want the ego blow of failing. Ive worked hard..but meh (:_(

The otherside is if I pass my life is harder but more rewarding. If I fail I could be unlocking a solid life path with (in my mind) more $$$. What a strange predicament.
 
I think my difficulty comes from a combination of being naturally shy, and damage done by spending formative years on tumblr, where the radfem points of "men are trash" as well as "men should always be considered predatory" were inescapable. I've spent a lot of time trying to unlearn those messages, but the impact was significant (especially so that those messages are still being promoted today). It's still difficult for me to approach people IRL. But I'm in a much better place than I was a few years ago.
If you were asking me what I think the problem is for people starting relationships generally, I have no insight.
That's really interesting, I've heard this from quite a few people I know. If you haven't read it I would highly suggest this blog post by Scott Alexander from a few years back. I think you'd find a lot of it impactful and very relevant to what you're experiencing.



That sounds frustrating, because I'm sure if you knew, you'd do whatever you could to fix it. I wish I had an answer to give you.
There has been a lot of stigma placed on male sexuality that has been imposed on people the past couple of decades. Particularly during a time when teenagers are going through puberty and trying to figure things out.

I myself had been dealing with this problem for years. Feeling like I'm a creep for having feelings for a woman or wanting to date one. Didn't help that I often compared myself unfavorably to other guys that seem to "have it together". Nor did it help that the internet phenomena of the nice guy/incel rose to prominence, making things even worse. Both of which I feel have at least been partially caused by the above mentioned mindset. Not excusing their behavior, but recent years have proven to me that these kind of people didn't just pop out from nowhere.

Truth of the matter is I feel, is that you should stop giving a shit about what other people think of you. At the end of the day, you're a guy, and you're attracted to women. Guys in general have attributes and quirks that are unique to them. You can't control or change that. So why not embrace it? Be the kind of man you want to be. Pretend if you have to, fake it till you make it.

Instead of worrying so much about how others perceive you, focus on improving yourself and doing something worthwhile. You may or may not find that special lady, but what matters is that you do something that gives you purpose, that keeps you alive. The internet does not represent the entirety of the world. I myself am working in a position filled with down to earth and very supportive people who appreciate what I do. Things certainly aren't perfect, but I'm better off than I was not too long ago.

I've stopped enjoying much of anything at all. Stuff like vidya or anime can only distract me for short periods of time. Even music which I've always loved listening to is starting to lose it's grasp on me. I'm running out of options now. I desperately want to find a boyfriend in real life, and my hope is that having someone to love and care about might bring back some amount of happiness. Sadly I have no way to find a boy at the moment. If I do manage to find a guy that I actually like and can carry the weight of fixing me then I think I might be able to be somewhat happy again. If it doesn't work out though, then I think my only options are alcoholism, asceticism, being institutionalized, and suicide.

I'm praying things work out before I reach the final option.
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As someone who has the same kind of problems and desires, let me say this:

You need to be able to fix yourself. Having a boyfriend won't fix whatever problems you currently have. Having friends and family for support as well as therapy work wonders, but you also got to have the desire to help yourself.

It's not easy, lord knows I still have trouble with it, but self love is an important skill to learn.

I wish you the best though. Don't kill yourself. You are valuable to someone.
 
therapy work wonders
Lol, how does talking to some pseudo science shrink do anything for you? Do people really not posses the ability to do self introspection? Honestly, this thread is all any normal person should need. Every time I get my ego checked and feel inferior, I just read this thread, realize how I still am superior to most idiots, and get back to being my old pompous self.
 
Do you have an e-bf?
I've had a few in the past, but they never work out. I'm kinda done searching for one now because each time they get to know me they realize it's more trouble than it's worth.
As someone who has the same kind of problems and desires, let me say this:

You need to be able to fix yourself. Having a boyfriend won't fix whatever problems you currently have. Having friends and family for support as well as therapy work wonders, but you also got to have the desire to help yourself.

It's not easy, lord knows I still have trouble with it, but self love is an important skill to learn.

I wish you the best though. Don't kill yourself. You are valuable to someone.
Yeah, thanks. I'm feeling a bit less depressive today. sadly that means I feel pretty much neutral, but I guess that's better than suicidal thinking. I have a job this summer, starting in a couple weeks, so hopefully that'll keep my mind off things or maybe I'll meet new friends (maybe even a bf if I'm lucky)
 
Lol, how does talking to some pseudo science shrink do anything for you? Do people really not posses the ability to do self introspection? Honestly, this thread is all any normal person should need. Every time I get my ego checked and feel inferior, I just read this thread, realize how I still am superior to most idiots, and get back to being my old pompous self.
Well, this is the Kiwi Farms. A place built on people who lack self introspection.

It does suck how many therapists don’t really work and in some cases make things worse. I’m just lucky I found the ones I have. They’re less pseudo science and more spiritual in nature.
 
I just remembered Arcade Odyssey and was reminded of the fact that 2013 was 8 years ago. I would give my left liver and nut just to go play one last time. If only my parents hadn't accepted the job offer that made us move to another state :(. It was comfy for my introverted ass
 
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