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[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Be direct.

Maybe I'm wrong but when you say "you make a move and they ignore you", that sounds to me you're hinting at things, giving signals, being vague.

Don't.

A large fraction of the signals we don't get, because we're retarded when it comes to your estrogenous social games. The rest of the signals, most of us, are wired for a variety of reasons to assume the signals are just us misreading you. So we act like it's nothing. Only some will catch them and act on them.

So make it clear and direct. Let us know you're interested in something more. If we don't want to reciprocate, we'll tell you, or at worst will stop talking to you (which by the same token of directness, I don't endorse). Point is, if they had caught the signals and deemed them real and not just "I'm imagining things", they probably wouldn't be still talking to you like nothing happened.

Absolutely.

Women's idea of flirting always involves plausible deniability, but sorry ladies, we don't live in that world anymore. It doesn't matter if a guy isn't a feminist, we're scared to death of having our names dragged through the mud, and all it takes is one angry woman to get a whole bunch of other women to believe a load of lies and bullshit. We're not even retarded, it's that if we guess and we are wrong, the social sanctions can be severe, and women have collectively agreed upon where if one complains about a man, they'll believe it no matter how ludicrous the accusations are because women don't really like men all that much.

I need to figure out what clue X 4 I need to use because I don't think I am being indirect. I straight up tell him I find him attractive. I don't know if he thinks I am lying or something because he is unconventionally attractive. I actually do like him for a lot of reasons that drive me insane. If I try to tell him, he'll sort of laugh it off but won't stop doing things that clearly indicate interest to me.

In other news, down another 4lbs...Someone noticed my weight loss and asked me if something was going on. I am not entirely sure.

How are you phrasing it? Men get so toyed with by women that if you're not being explicit, we might let it just slide off.

It also possible that he just doesn't believe you're really into him. Because women say and do a lot of shit they don't mean, and there's only so many times in a man's life where he will let himself be repeatedly faked out by a woman.

 

[Betonhaus]

I need to figure out what clue X 4 I need to use because I don't think I am being indirect. I straight up tell him I find him attractive. I don't know if he thinks I am lying or something because he is unconventionally attractive. I actually do like him for a lot of reasons that drive me insane. If I try to tell him, he'll sort of laugh it off but won't stop doing things that clearly indicate interest to me.

find reasons to hang out together that can be semi-innocent, like going to movies or events? maybe start baking cookies and such and giving him some?

 

[Doctor John B. Zyklon]

How are you phrasing it? Men get so toyed with by women that if you're not being explicit, we might let it just slide off.

find reasons to hang out together that can be semi-innocent, like going to movies or events? maybe start baking cookies and such and giving him some?

I need to figure out what clue X 4 I need to use because I don't think I am being indirect. I straight up tell him I find him attractive.

Just fucking asking him out and make it clear. Jesus fucking Christ; women.
Saying you find him attractive means fucking nothing. Women can say that and not mean it, they can say it but that is the end all be all.
Hell, you can suggest you two cute shit together, even go out for a dinner, and it can still mean fucking nothing.

"But that sounds insane Mr. Zyklon".

First of all, it's Doctor to you. Second, yes, yes it is. Because you're all insane. You're given the easiest lives on the planet and yet you still manage to make it difficult.

Just ask the minger out or move on.

"But what if he says no" boo fucking hoo. That's what men have to deal with; except broads can make it weird after, or spread lies about you, can turn entire office environments against you if it's a work thing. You have nearly 0 risk but all reward sitting there; the inverse of a man in this situation. Yet here we are.

Anyway; called the apartment, no reply. I'll call again tomorrow but it sounds like they're ghosting me. Which, is absolutely mind boggling when a business ghosts you.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

How are you phrasing it? Men get so toyed with by women that if you're not being explicit, we might let it just slide off.

I think you know that I think you are a faggot, but let's look at this a moment.

I absoutely do find him sexually and extremely emotionally attractive and he is not some chad meme type, He is just my type. I am not sure how to be more clear without being creepy or doing some bix noods shit. He tells me so much about himself and yet whenever I reassure him he is fine and I want him, he won't accept it.

 

[quackrock]

I've pretty much lost hope in the future.

 

[LonesomeDud]

I absoutely do find him sexually and extremely emotionally attractive and he is not some chad meme type, He is just my type. I am not sure how to be more clear without being creepy or doing some bix noods shit. He tells me so much about himself and yet whenever I reassure him he is fine and I want him, he won't accept it.

There's a lot of pressure to both take the led and listen to her. You have to both share yourself completely and not be weird. Honestly? I think you should just tell him you want him to ask you out or whatever from personal experience. That way there's no guessing.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Somehow the internet and academia getting worse seems to coincide with the world becoming more tolerable.

It's a little sad that it has to be one or the other, but I'm staring to become convinced that until these nerd-owned institutions lose their power, normal people will never be able to live comfortably.

I think you know that I think you are a faggot, but let's look at this a moment.

I absoutely do find him sexually and extremely emotionally attractive and he is not some chad meme type, He is just my type. I am not sure how to be more clear without being creepy or doing some bix noods shit. He tells me so much about himself and yet whenever I reassure him he is fine and I want him, he won't accept it.

I already know what type of dude you're talking about and how you mean.

There's a sort of narrative that men are always available, obviously if one was single why would they not be open to a relationship so you just have to press the right buttons, but it's more complicated than that. It's easy to be very fearful about attachment and want to keep people at an arm's length.

You're going to have to have to be assertive and almost tell him you're going out whether he likes it or not. It's ok, he'll probably thank you years down the line when he's not thinking back about that time that one chick really liked him but he sunk it by being a timid weirdo.

 

[CoolFool]

Fricking KF down again, now I'm using Tor even though I don't like it. Fuck you troons, we aren't going anywhere. You aren't making me hate troons less, just saying.

I need to figure out what clue X 4 I need to use because I don't think I am being indirect. I straight up tell him I find him attractive. I don't know if he thinks I am lying or something because he is unconventionally attractive. I actually do like him for a lot of reasons that drive me insane. If I try to tell him, he'll sort of laugh it off but won't stop doing things that clearly indicate interest to me.

In other news, down another 4lbs...Someone noticed my weight loss and asked me if something was going on. I am not entirely sure.

Unless the guy you like is autistic (they do need you to be more direct and they are more honest), avoid telling guys you find them attractive and that you want to go out with them. Guys here will tell you that guys want this, but trust me, you don't want this. That's because a lot of guys will see you expressing interest or asking them out, and even if they aren't actually interested in you at all, they will still agree to "go out" with you in order to sleep with you and get gf treatment.

If you're giving signals to a guy and he can't pick up on it, then there's 3 possibilities: 1. your signals need work 2. he clearly isn't interested, or 3. he's an actual dumb ass. If point #1, you can fix that, If point #2, he's too polite to tell you up front he isn't interested, or he's waffling because he isn't interested but is keeping you around just in case. Guys that are actually interested will not wait around if they know you're interested in them as well. Either way, stop wasting your time on him. If point #3, you should cut your losses and move on. You don't want to be with a guy that's too dumb to pick up basic signals.
Just remember. Lots of guys on KF are spergs (no offense ) or socially inept incels, so they'll give you advice that isn't always helpful, it's just what they wish would happen to them personally because they have trouble with women.

 

[anustart76]

Unless the guy you like is autistic (they do need you to be more direct and they are more honest), avoid telling guys you find them attractive and that you want to go out with them. Guys here will tell you that guys want this, but trust me, you don't want this. That's because a lot of guys will see you expressing interest or asking them out, and even if they aren't actually interested in you at all, they will still agree to "go out" with you in order to sleep with you and get gf treatment.

This doesn't make any sense; the part about guys agreeing to go out just to sleep with you really doesn't change even if he's the one to ask you out. That's something you're going to have to find out once you actually start going out, regardless of who asks who out.

I think you know that I think you are a faggot, but let's look at this a moment.

I absoutely do find him sexually and extremely emotionally attractive and he is not some chad meme type, He is just my type. I am not sure how to be more clear without being creepy or doing some bix noods shit. He tells me so much about himself and yet whenever I reassure him he is fine and I want him, he won't accept it.

Whether he's uninterested, afraid of being creepy, or just oblivious, you have no way of knowing without directly asking him out at this point. And it's not like he would ruin your reputation or get you into trouble, guys don't really do that kind of thing. I'm saying your only chance at this point is literally asking him "hey want to go out sometime?" and if it doesn't work out, at least you'll be satisfied you know what's going on.

 

[CoolFool]

This doesn't make any sense; the part about guys agreeing to go out just to sleep with you really doesn't change even if he's the one to ask you out. That's something you're going to have to find out once you actually start going out, regardless of who asks who out

You're still going to have a better chance of finding a guy who is genuinely interested in you with them taking the initiative to ask you out, versus having a guy who you don't know if he is saying yes because he likes you or because you offered and he just hopes to get laid. Besides, why would a woman want to be with a guy who can't ask even her out? Asking women out isn't hard, guys who act like it is need to stop being so afraid of rejection and go get some dating practice.

 

[anustart76]

why would a woman want to be with a guy who can't ask even her out

You should ask her that.

Asking women out isn't hard, guys who act like it is need to stop being so afraid of rejection and go get some dating practice.

We're trying to not get metoo'd or posted on Instagram or TikTok or whatever the fuck it is now

 

[Nick Obre]

why would a woman want to be with a guy who can't ask even her out?

Does a woman even want to be with a guy if she can't just ask him out?

 

[AnOminous]

Besides, why would a woman want to be with a guy who can't ask even her out?

Why would women in general create a social situation where a man just asking a woman out could lead to him losing his job and being completely destroyed for incomprehensible cancel culture bullshit?

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

There's a sort of narrative that men are always available, obviously if one was single why would they not be open to a relationship so you just have to press the right buttons, but it's more complicated than that. It's easy to be very fearful about attachment and want to keep people at an arm's length.

Because woman moment, I wonder if I am not being to hard on him.

If you're giving signals to a guy and he can't pick up on it, then there's 3 possibilities: 1. your signals need work 2. he clearly isn't interested, or 3. he's an actual dumb ass. If point #1, you can fix that, If point #2, he's too polite to tell you up front he isn't interested, or he's waffling because he isn't interested but is keeping you around just in case. Guys that are actually interested will not wait around if they know you're interested in them as well. Either way, stop wasting your time on him. If point #3, you should cut your losses and move on. You don't want to be with a guy that's too dumb to pick up basic signals.

This is probably true, but I am a retard. I don't think he isn't interested otherwise he wouldn't have told me so much shit and PL so hard. But then it is like hmm...what is going on. I have tried to make it clear I am interested in dating but oof, not getting through or whatever. He is not from here, btw. Met him off of a gun site. He is uh definitely not gay or in another relationship.

Why would women in general create a social situation where a man just asking a woman out could lead to him losing his job and being completely destroyed for incomprehensible cancel culture bullshit?

I hate this shit so much because in the end it means women like me have to be the aggressors at the very least and it sucks so much. It don't think that is the issue with this dude though, he is just very thunkful.

 

[anustart76]

I hate this shit so much because in the end it means women like me have to be the aggressors at the very least and it sucks so much.

All of us that that aren't lunatics hate it, but it only takes a small group to ruin it for everyone. It's a lot like cancel culture, if people didn't go along with it, it wouldn't be a problem, but normies will believe everything they see online, malicious people will take advantage of that, and well here we are.

 

[Doctor John B. Zyklon]

Met him off of a gun site

So he's autistic then.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

So he's autistic then.

Like me.

 

[CoolFool]

This is probably true, but I am a retard. I don't think he isn't interested otherwise he wouldn't have told me so much shit and PL so hard. But then it is like hmm...what is going on. I have tried to make it clear I am interested in dating but oof, not getting through or whatever. He is not from here, btw. Met him off of a gun site. He is uh definitely not gay or in another relationship.

Just so you know, and I'm telling you this since you said you're autistic, guys can use you emotionally. I don't even mean that they are doing this consciously or with bad intent. But if there's a gal there willing to listen to them, well, why not take it? Just want you to know this so in the future you don't mistake a guy being open for being interested.

As for the guy you're interested in, if this guy is an autist then you actually do have to be direct with him because autists literally suck at picking up social cues, especially male autists.

Anyways, I'm not gonna respond anymore after this post because I don't wanna derail the thread, all I'm gonna say is that guys acting like they're going to be MeToo'd from asking a woman out sound like redditors. If you really believe that to be the norm or a common occurrence, you need to stop spending so much time online, no offense. If ya'll want to continue this discussion then move it over to the femoid advice thread.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Anyways, I'm not gonna respond anymore after this post because I don't wanna derail the thread,

You can't derail it because this is exactly what it is for - PL your gay and retarded bullshit. The only real place on the site for it.

 

[CoolFool]

You can't derail it because this is exactly what it is for - PL your gay and retarded bullshit. The only real place on the site for it.

Idk, I see this as a thread for telling how you're doing and maybe offering some words of encouragement or a few chit chatty posts, not a thread to like, debate a hot button topic, but maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I brought the topic up on the femoid advice thread if anyone wants to continue it.