How bad were the 90s for gays?

Be a gay in the 90s. Have a wife you get to bang. Have a family. Get to bang countless dudes on the side. All you have to do is not get aids. No one that is straight knows or cares you're a fag. Doesn't impact you career or life. Have a secret club on the side.

in the 2020s you're considered on the level of a trans. No wife. No family. Everyone knows you're a flamer and fat chicks at work want to talk to you about the dick sizes of the gross guy they banged on the weekend.
 
In my teens, I was accepted to a remote work camp skill building program for a summer.

A lot of the other teens at the camp came directly from the city. One teen was flaming, effeminate and lispy. He showed up at a lumberjack work camp in silk shirts.

A couple weeks in, one night some of the edgier campers composed an original acoustic song about the still-in-the-closet camper. It was actually pretty catchy. I still remember the lyrics.

🎶Jodi you're our playmate🎵 🎵Jodi you're our sunshine 🎶 🔥Jodi you're our sextoy🔥 👹I'm going to fuck you up the tailpipe👹 👹Just like your father used to do👹 👹Just like your father used to do👹

After workshopping the lyrics, the bunch recorded it on a cassette.

The next day before dawn, shit went down.

The camp director woke up everyone in the bunkhouse before 5 am running up and down the halls revving his chainsaw.

The camp director and his associates confiscated the cassette and started calling pairs out of bed two-at-a-time interrogating everyone what they knew about the tape like a FBI raid.

The 4 guys who directly contributed to the song were sent home on the train the next day. We never heard from them again.

Another three guys who were their audience got to stay. But they were given a blue tarp, some tree boughs and some tools and had to construct a makeshift lean-to out in a clearing in the forest. They built their own shitty shelter and were made to sleep in the dirt for a week (which in hindsight is pretty crazy for the times).

The program was technically government-affiliated as it was associated with the Bureau of Lands and Forests. It was remote enough though that it was essentially the director's little fiefdom. I'd have to walk miles down the highway to find a payphone to call home.

TL;DR - Even 3 decades ago, teenage cringe edgelord casual homophobia was treated as a capital crime.
 
In my teens, I was accepted to a remote work camp skill building program for a summer.

A lot of the other teens at the camp came directly from the city. One teen was flaming, effeminate and lispy. He showed up at a lumberjack work camp in silk shirts.

A couple weeks in, one night some of the edgier campers composed an original acoustic song about the still-in-the-closet camper. It was actually pretty catchy. I still remember the lyrics.


After workshopping the lyrics, the bunch recorded it on a cassette.

The next day before dawn, shit went down.

The camp director woke up everyone in the bunkhouse before 5 am running up and down the halls revving his chainsaw.

The camp director and his associates confiscated the cassette and started calling pairs out of bed two-at-a-time interrogating everyone what they knew about the tape like a FBI raid.

The 4 guys who directly contributed to the song were sent home on the train the next day. We never heard from them again.

Another three guys who were their audience got to stay. But they were given a blue tarp, some tree boughs and some tools and had to construct a makeshift lean-to out in a clearing in the forest. They built their own shitty shelter and were made to sleep in the dirt for a week (which in hindsight is pretty crazy for the times).

The program was technically government-affiliated as it was associated with the Bureau of Lands and Forests. It was remote enough though that it was essentially the director's little fiefdom. I'd have to walk miles down the highway to find a payphone to call home.

TL;DR - Even 3 decades ago, teenage cringe edgelord casual homophobia was treated as a capital crime.
I don't know, maybe going to that extent to bully someone is wrong? I like how you thought posting this was elicit sympathy regarding assholes terrorizing some kid in the closet. I also like how you are probably 45 years old now and seem to have not grown any since that point either.
 
It was terrible for them, we never celebrated ass sex at work or allowed them to dress in their burlesque outfits to come read to kids at the library.



Damn, I didn't know the fags killed Isaac Asimov with their poz blood.
They also killed Arthur Ashe after he got into a bad car accident that left him needing blood. Got fag blood and then got AIDS. That case pisses me off even more because he had just a family when he passed away.
 
Stonewall was a bust of a Mafia-run extortion ring where the gays patrons freaked out and attacked the cops. The cops weren't there to beat up the gays, but rather to remind the Mafia who was in charge after the Mafia refused to pay their bribes.

Ironically, the police were there to arrest people who were blackmailing gays.

Crazy how every single one of these seminal historical discrimination events was actually the cops justifiably cracking down on actual criminals, but lawyer guilds and journalists organized riots, got away with them, and lied to the public about what happened. Don't look into the last names of everyone responsible.
 
Greatest fucking gay porn ever.

LGBT activism was fairly fringe stuff most fags actually did not care about.

Gay marriage as a goal and respectability politics bottle-necked troons, fetishists, the non-monogamous apologists, the bug chasers and other undesirable elements.

People actually cared about not getting STDs

Most people really fucking did not care whether if you were gay
 
Beginning 90s was a bit so so, they were coming out of the AIDS epidemic of the 80s and people were like "yeah be gay but don't be like weird gay, and keep it to yourself". By the end of the 90s thought gays were basically mainstream. I think this is evidenced by the fact that Ellen DeGeneres was willing to come out in the late 90s without worrying about any sort of larger social or career backlash involved. A lot of hardcore PR went on in the 90s and by the 00s the path was basically paved with shows like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Will and Grace bringing gayness to homes across the world.
 
Mathew Shephard was a homosexual meth dealer who who murdered by a former homosexual lover who was also a meth dealer, in a drug dispute.

Shepard's murder is not unlike St Floyd's death, conspiracy-minded me would think there is a playbook somewhere.

Beginning 90s was a bit so so, they were coming out of the AIDS epidemic of the 80s and people were like "yeah be gay but don't be like weird gay, and keep it to yourself". By the end of the 90s thought gays were basically mainstream. I think this is evidenced by the fact that Ellen DeGeneres was willing to come out in the late 90s without worrying about any sort of larger social or career backlash involved. A lot of hardcore PR went on in the 90s and by the 00s the path was basically paved with shows like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Will and Grace bringing gayness to homes across the world.

Up until around 2014 cruising spots were everywhere. You would find gloryholes in places you wouldn't believe and men would be fucking in lots of public places all the time like, for example, the subway trains, yet this was completely out of straight people's radar.

But it was a completely unbearably oppressive decade because they made some tame jokes on Friends about Chandler possibly being gay and his dad being a troon.
 
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It was socially difficult to be gay and open about it in the early 90s... depending on where you lived. It was "outside" the realm of normal (I mean, it still technically is, but troons have moved the Overton window big time), and it creeped some people out. You could be disowned for it if you came from a weirdly religious family, and it could be especially hard on gay religious people. (Had a good friend who was gay, and it was obvious. Very religious. Took him a long time to come out. His family quit talking to him.) It was common place to make gay jokes, IRL and in media. That freedom was good, and yet it also helped create an environment where gay people always had front-and-center in the culture that they were abnormal.

So it felt like it was hard to be gay in the early 90s, and that's not nothing. I think that stigma was much worse in the 80s, but I was too young to really know. I'm not sure how common it was for actual fags to have the shit beaten out of them outside of school (where kids will beat other kids up for anything).

All that said, it was better than now. I hope we can find a healthy and respectful equilibrium (we can joke about it being weird, but we accept it anyway), but I honestly doubt it will happen. The pendulum will keep swinging.
 
Mathew Shephard was a homosexual meth dealer who who murdered by a former homosexual lover who was also a meth dealer, in a drug dispute.
Even if that's the case, I'm willing to believe it, anyone who went through public education system in the 90's and had to socialize with other kids in certain places knows things were pretty fucking harsh. But this is autism central I guess, and if Ellen could come out on television, everything was hokey dory I guess.
 
Even if that's the case, I'm willing to believe it, anyone who went through public education system in the 90's and had to socialize with other kids in certain places knows things were pretty fucking harsh. But this is autism central I guess, and if Ellen could come out on television, everything was hokey dory I guess.
Yes gays were so put on that they couldn't publicly screw boys and bugchase in public boo hoo hoo.

I owe every evangellicuck I laughed at re: the gay slippery slope 20 years ago a massive apology
 
It's the lesser of the two evils, compared to the widespread tolerance and acceptance of the sin known as homosexuality, which destroys every culture in which it is not firmly an unapologetically rooted out.
It's horrible fucking behavior, and the according to the story, the kid wasn't even out of the closet. So they terrorized some kid for just seeming gay, and then this 50 year old boomer has the gall to act like the people punished were the victims and not the child. Kind of sick of hearing moral lectures from people who have substandard morality.

You have no evidence that "homosexuality destroys every culture," just more masturbatory /pol/ fanfiction. I wish you people weren't as dumb as bricks, but you remind me of trained parrots that just repeat words or phrases without any concern for what they actually mean or if they have any basis in truth.
 
I recently learned of the term used back in the day called "GRID" which is "gay related immune deficientcy", later changed to aids. So people with gay aids were called Grids. Frankly I'm all in favor of bringing this one back.
 
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