How can one resist an illegitmate regime while avoiding reprisal and profiting from your resistance? - Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Decline.

[Siino]

Something I've noticed: A fair amount of jobs in the US are either redundant or mostly useless. Large swaths of the workforce could be put out of work without bringing the entire economy crashing down. The resulting social unrest might do it, but food is still pretty damn cheap and populations are far less likely to revolt when they're fed. There has been some fuckery going on with meat production and the likes but the US is still producing so much surplus grain that we put it in soda and feed it to livestock. Because the value of labor is so skewed in this way and food prices are so stable I think we're unlikely to see a Wiemar-style collapse. The situations with the housing market and instability of basic infrastructure are looking far more volatile and interesting.

This is the penultimate stage of a managed decline to the lowest standard of living a people will tolerate.

1. Centralized ownership of non-depreciating assets.
2. Quality of goods and services lowering in fits and starts.
3. Previously common place goods and services rebranding as luxuries.
4. Mass surveillance and inward focused security state.
5. Endless "nudging" of the masses towards the outcomes desired by elites.
6. Merging of public and private consent manufacturing entities.
7. Expansion of the voting franchise children, non-citizens, criminals, the insane.
8. Sexual liberation of children with the understanding that this will keep them dependent on pharmaceuticals for life and prevent them reproducing.
9. Aggressive taxation of and law enforcement holy wars against the class/ethnicity that builds and maintains infrastructure, fights wars, and pays taxes.

Where Germany and Russia - both aristocratic land powers with long histories of strong power - turned against a perceived internal enemy, they did so in the manner of 1984: camps, interrogation via torture, coerced confessions, public executions. The USA - being a Naval power in the tradition of Britain which relies on soft power to corral and divide competing ethnics - is instituting an anti-democratic and anti-populist soft power regime closer to that of Brave New World. Instead of being sterilized as China sterilizes the Uighurs, the people are raised from birth to believe that sterilization is liberation through a "transition" to a new identity. They choose to be broken and remolded into regime instruments, believing that their death groans are birthing pains.

The main implication for the resistance is that the best weapons are deception and subversion, and the best armor is to camouflage yourself as a regime supporter. Instead of openly protesting, find ways to use the regime's incentive structures to profit yourself. This could be by:

• Claiming to be trans to get tax breaks, low interest home loans, loan forgiveness, or other preferential treatment.
• Getting a genetics/ancestry test done to determine if you have any non-European ancestry, and use that to get entitlements.
• Not marrying your girlfriend, keeping your name off the birth certificate, and letting the regime pay for your children.
• Starting a rehab clinic and using the funding you receive to teach those stuck in the law enforcment and social services plantations how to navigate the systems and extract entitlements from them, while contributing nothing back.
• Pretending to be a "marginalized" ethnicity, gender, sexual group, or religion to get entitlements, and to harm actual regime supporters. This can be done by in many ways, one of which is pretending to be trans while making no effort to change your appearance, and then reporting the office harpies for misgendering you.
• Acting excessively deferential to regime pets, so much so that they understand that you are lying, that they feel alienated from the regime, and that they feel they can't trust their actual allies within the regime. For instance, you can take a knee, raise a fist, close your eyes, and demand a minute of silence for George Floyd at the start of every office meeting, and before you speak in the presence of Africans or anyone who can be construed as being a "person of color".
• Deliberately misidentifying mutually hostile ethnic groups and apologizing to them for your White privilege. For instance, you could say to a Puerto Rican, "Before we start I just want to apologize for my nation's historical occupation of Mexican land, and genocides against Mexican peoples."
• Openly celebrating the decline of the European peoples, both in their Continental homelands and in the lands they conquered. Mock any centrists who disagree with you as "Nazis", while providing easily debunked arguments against actual nationalists. When you are defeated in argument, state both that the decline isn't happening, that they deserve to have it happen to them, and that it's a good thing that it's happening.

The list above is not exhaustive. The only limit to non-violent, subversive resistance is your imagination. The regime can't prosecute such subversive activity because to do so would sweep up many of it's actual supporters up with the subversives.

The regime also has no defense against common criminality, provided those crimes aren't overtly violent and don't openly oppose the regime's will. It's legal to shoplift up to what, $750 in parts of California? Shoplift up to that amount then.

It's legal to take a shit in the street in parts of California? Feed the homeless cheap bean chili and hand out toilet paper.

It's legal to litter? Empty your trash bags on public streets rather than pay a garbage collection fee.

It may not even be necessary to commit a crime to subvert the regime, you can simply withdraw your goodwill, stay home, tell half-truths without explicitly lying, and get on public benefits or pretend to be a socialist so you can fleece the Brooklyn trust fund communist podcaster crowd. There is nothing stopping you from pretending to troon out so you can get Open Society Foundation funding that you use to stage radicalization marches through Republican controlled territory. To my knowledge there is no test - no genital inspection - required to claim that you are a woman and to get the entitlements available only to women or troons.

Worst case scenario is you go to prison for a while. Claim you're a woman and go on a hunger strike until you are housed in the woman's prison, then relax and wait our your days in relative safety.

There is a huge opportunity in co-opting regime power structures and acting as controlled opposition to populist movements. You can make a lot of money doing things that harm the regime in the long run while sticking to the letter of the law, both de facto and de jure.

 

[Pixy]

Is this just a way to morally justify to oneself how to be a societal parasite?

 

[DumbDude42]

strong disagree tbh. all those 'subversive' gay ops do is waste your time.
the reason subversion worked for the left is because the institutions they targeted were operating on an ideology of openness, which makes it impossible for them to defend against entryism and infiltration.
the same is not true for institutions controlled by the left. they do not care about openness, they can and will do whatever is necessary to keep opposing views out.
USA, UK, post ww2 europe - all of them are/were vulnerable to subversion because they subscribe to liberal/democratic values which prescribe openness.
USSR, communist china, nazi germany, imperial japan, etc - these societies were/are impossible to subvert because they actively guard themselves against such attempts.

frankly, the only meaningful way to negatively impact the ruling class would be targeting them and their high ranking underlings for assassination, kennedy style. that's the only way to instill fear in them, make them panic, overreact, lash out, thus creating chaos and instability. without that nothing will change.

 

[Siino]

Is this just a way to morally justify to oneself how to be a societal parasite?

If a society hates you, are you obligated to support it? If a government makes it impossible for you to survive, does it deserve your good will?

strong disagree tbh. all those 'subversive' gay ops do is waste your time.
the reason subversion worked for the left is because the institutions they targeted were operating on an ideology of openness, which makes it impossible for them to defend against entryism and infiltration.
the same is not true for institutions controlled by the left. they do not care about openness, they can and will do whatever is necessary to keep opposing views out.
USA, UK, post ww2 europe - all of them are/were vulnerable to subversion because they subscribe to liberal/democratic values which prescribe openness.
USSR, communist china, nazi germany, imperial japan, etc - these societies were/are impossible to subvert because they actively guard themselves against such attempts.

frankly, the only meaningful way to negatively impact the ruling class would be targeting them and their high ranking underlings for assassination, kennedy style. that's the only way to instill fear in them, make them panic, overreact, lash out, thus creating chaos and instability. without that nothing will change.

The point isn't to subvert institutions, it's to turn non-subversive contributors to a system that hates them into subversive takers in relation to the same system.

We do not need to control any institutions to win, we need only stop contributing to the continued well being and functioning of the system. Something like 99% of all steam fitters, for instance, are White men. Steam fitting is incredibly dangerous, and without steam fitters any power plant that uses steam powered turbines (coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear, non-photovoltaic solar) can't work. Sure, you could import Mexicans, Chinese, or Indians to work in these plants, but none of those populations are known for attention to detail or for the quality of their work. Moreover, these plants are built to require a very high level of skill and quality of work to function. Our power transmission lines require high quality material and maintanence to function. If they are maintained according to third world standards, they fail, which is already happening in California, Texas, and New York.

Without White men to maintain it, the infrastructure on which the regime depends decays purely on it's own and with no malice from White men. Withdrawing good will and returning to neutrality is not malice.

We do not need the elites who run the regime to fear us to defeat them. If they fear us, then they will be careful, cautious, and thorough in their efforts. We do not want that as it will make them harder to defeat. We we want is for them to be arrogant, complacent, and foolish. These things will make it easier to defeat them.

I do not condone or endorse violence, and if you want to continue posting in this thread then do not discuss homicide or terrorism. I believe that non-violent resistance is more than sufficient to accomplish our goals, and that violence harms us.

You can tell that the regime elites know this because they have spent months trying to meme MAGA terrorists into reality, and thankfully no one has taken the bait. You should always do the opposite of what your enemy wants you to do.

In this case they want us to be open and notorious, and they want us to be violent. Therefore we should be deceptive and subtle, and we should eschew violence.

A good example for my proposal is Blue Flu. If city dwellers are more likely to support the regime, and if a certain swarthy ethnic group is vastly overrepresented in crimes both violent and non-violent, then what happens when that city's entire police force doesn't show up to work for 2 weeks?

 

[Sped Xing]

"In order to defeat the niggers, we must become niggers."

 

[Siino]

"In order to defeat the niggers, we must become niggers."

Which is more based; the man who works hard to feed the niggers and keep their sows breeding, or the man who uses the regime's systems to keep his own people alive by taking money that would otherwise go to nigger breeding?

 

[Sped Xing]

Which is more based; the man who works hard to feed the niggers and keep their sows breeding, or the man who uses the regime's systems to keep his own people alive by taking money that would otherwise go to nigger breeding?

Get a job, nigger.

 

[Siino]

Get a job, nigger.

And pay for my replacement? No thank you.

 

[Sped Xing]

And pay for my replacement? No thank you.

You could be replaced with empty space and no one would care.

 

[Siino]

You could be replaced with empty space and no one would care.

I see you're trying to derail this thread, to which I say you should apologize for Waco, FBI.

 

[WinnieTheJew]

This is the penultimate stage of a managed decline to the lowest standard of living a people will tolerate.

1. Centralized ownership of non-depreciating assets.
2. Quality of goods and services lowering in fits and starts.
3. Previously common place goods and services rebranding as luxuries.
4. Mass surveillance and inward focused security state.
5. Endless "nudging" of the masses towards the outcomes desired by elites.
6. Merging of public and private consent manufacturing entities.
7. Expansion of the voting franchise children, non-citizens, criminals, the insane.
8. Sexual liberation of children with the understanding that this will keep them dependent on pharmaceuticals for life and prevent them reproducing.
9. Aggressive taxation of and law enforcement holy wars against the class/ethnicity that builds and maintains infrastructure, fights wars, and pays taxes.

Where Germany and Russia - both aristocratic land powers with long histories of strong power - turned against a perceived internal enemy, they did so in the manner of 1984: camps, interrogation via torture, coerced confessions, public executions. The USA - being a Naval power in the tradition of Britain which relies on soft power to corral and divide competing ethnics - is instituting an anti-democratic and anti-populist soft power regime closer to that of Brave New World. Instead of being sterilized as China sterilizes the Uighurs, the people are raised from birth to believe that sterilization is liberation through a "transition" to a new identity. They choose to be broken and remolded into regime instruments, believing that their death groans are birthing pains.

The main implication for the resistance is that the best weapons are deception and subversion, and the best armor is to camouflage yourself as a regime supporter. Instead of openly protesting, find ways to use the regime's incentive structures to profit yourself. This could be by:

• Claiming to be trans to get tax breaks, low interest home loans, loan forgiveness, or other preferential treatment.
• Getting a genetics/ancestry test done to determine if you have any non-European ancestry, and use that to get entitlements.
• Not marrying your girlfriend, keeping your name off the birth certificate, and letting the regime pay for your children.
• Starting a rehab clinic and using the funding you receive to teach those stuck in the law enforcment and social services plantations how to navigate the systems and extract entitlements from them, while contributing nothing back.
• Pretending to be a "marginalized" ethnicity, gender, sexual group, or religion to get entitlements, and to harm actual regime supporters. This can be done by in many ways, one of which is pretending to be trans while making no effort to change your appearance, and then reporting the office harpies for misgendering you.
• Acting excessively deferential to regime pets, so much so that they understand that you are lying, that they feel alienated from the regime, and that they feel they can't trust their actual allies within the regime. For instance, you can take a knee, raise a fist, close your eyes, and demand a minute of silence for George Floyd at the start of every office meeting, and before you speak in the presence of Africans or anyone who can be construed as being a "person of color".
• Deliberately misidentifying mutually hostile ethnic groups and apologizing to them for your White privilege. For instance, you could say to a Puerto Rican, "Before we start I just want to apologize for my nation's historical occupation of Mexican land, and genocides against Mexican peoples."
• Openly celebrating the decline of the European peoples, both in their Continental homelands and in the lands they conquered. Mock any centrists who disagree with you as "Nazis", while providing easily debunked arguments against actual nationalists. When you are defeated in argument, state both that the decline isn't happening, that they deserve to have it happen to them, and that it's a good thing that it's happening.

The list above is not exhaustive. The only limit to non-violent, subversive resistance is your imagination. The regime can't prosecute such subversive activity because to do so would sweep up many of it's actual supporters up with the subversives.

The regime also has no defense against common criminality, provided those crimes aren't overtly violent and don't openly oppose the regime's will. It's legal to shoplift up to what, $750 in parts of California? Shoplift up to that amount then.

It's legal to take a shit in the street in parts of California? Feed the homeless cheap bean chili and hand out toilet paper.

It's legal to litter? Empty your trash bags on public streets rather than pay a garbage collection fee.

It may not even be necessary to commit a crime to subvert the regime, you can simply withdraw your goodwill, stay home, tell half-truths without explicitly lying, and get on public benefits or pretend to be a socialist so you can fleece the Brooklyn trust fund communist podcaster crowd. There is nothing stopping you from pretending to troon out so you can get Open Society Foundation funding that you use to stage radicalization marches through Republican controlled territory. To my knowledge there is no test - no genital inspection - required to claim that you are a woman and to get the entitlements available only to women or troons.

Worst case scenario is you go to prison for a while. Claim you're a woman and go on a hunger strike until you are housed in the woman's prison, then relax and wait our your days in relative safety.

There is a huge opportunity in co-opting regime power structures and acting as controlled opposition to populist movements. You can make a lot of money doing things that harm the regime in the long run while sticking to the letter of the law, both de facto and de jure.

The top half of your post is good but the bottom half is dumb. The system is great at sniffing out individuals attempting to defraud it, socially or financially. For the grifters who troon out to make money or move into some position of power, their depravities are a form of public self-flagellation. There's no official rulebook with a checklist that says you're entitled to something because you took hormones or cut your balls off. There is no official points system where you can level up like a video game. It's up to your degenerate peers to judge whether or not you've sufficiently debased yourself and if you're worthy of being accepted into their caste system. It's all about proving that you're internally fully subservient to their power structure.

Telling people to commit crimes is also unfathomably retarded. If you're acting as a dissident in other ways that are perfectly legal, your littering and jaywalking won't be ignored anymore. Those petty crimes will be used as a foot in the door to drag you into the corrupt court system where you'll be hung out to dry. Do you really think that troons are being placed in women's correctional facilities for their benefit? It's done to terrorize the women by unleashing a sex pest on them in a confined space. Do you think those judges don't know what the outcome will be when a mentally ill male pervert is dropped into a cage with a bunch of soft targets? Of course they do.

The people in charge are a lot smarter and malicious than you give them credit for. They know what they're doing, especially on a small scale like dealing with an individual, and you aren't going to pull a fast one on them for your benefit alone. The two biggest things you can do to attack the system are to live frugally and openly air your grievances. By doing this you pay as little as legally possible in taxes, give as little money as possible to big capital, and signal to potential fellow travelers that they aren't alone. Pinching pennies like a Jew is also good for the environment when you stop consooming and throwing away egregious amounts of plastic and chemical waste.

 

[DumbDude42]

If a society hates you, are you obligated to support it? If a government makes it impossible for you to survive, does it deserve your good will?


The point isn't to subvert institutions, it's to turn non-subversive contributors to a system that hates them into subversive takers in relation to the same system.

We do not need to control any institutions to win, we need only stop contributing to the continued well being and functioning of the system. Something like 99% of all steam fitters, for instance, are White men. Steam fitting is incredibly dangerous, and without steam fitters any power plant that uses steam powered turbines (coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear, non-photovoltaic solar) can't work. Sure, you could import Mexicans, Chinese, or Indians to work in these plants, but none of those populations are known for attention to detail or for the quality of their work. Moreover, these plants are built to require a very high level of skill and quality of work to function. Our power transmission lines require high quality material and maintanence to function. If they are maintained according to third world standards, they fail, which is already happening in California, Texas, and New York.

Without White men to maintain it, the infrastructure on which the regime depends decays purely on it's own and with no malice from White men. Withdrawing good will and returning to neutrality is not malice.

We do not need the elites who run the regime to fear us to defeat them. If they fear us, then they will be careful, cautious, and thorough in their efforts. We do not want that as it will make them harder to defeat. We we want is for them to be arrogant, complacent, and foolish. These things will make it easier to defeat them.

I do not condone or endorse violence, and if you want to continue posting in this thread then do not discuss homicide or terrorism. I believe that non-violent resistance is more than sufficient to accomplish our goals, and that violence harms us.

You can tell that the regime elites know this because they have spent months trying to meme MAGA terrorists into reality, and thankfully no one has taken the bait. You should always do the opposite of what your enemy wants you to do.

In this case they want us to be open and notorious, and they want us to be violent. Therefore we should be deceptive and subtle, and we should eschew violence.

A good example for my proposal is Blue Flu. If city dwellers are more likely to support the regime, and if a certain swarthy ethnic group is vastly overrepresented in crimes both violent and non-violent, then what happens when that city's entire police force doesn't show up to work for 2 weeks?

this take is naive and far removed from reality
"become a NEET to bring down the system" is just laughable. all you accomplish with that is throwing yourself into abject poverty and ruining your future.
"but they need us to keep things running without us things will fall apart" yeah and guess how they get people to cooperate? with money. people don't work for the system because they love the system so much, people work for the system because they get paid.

what you're proposing isn't new, it's called a general strike and the idea has been around for over a hundred years. it's also not something that will work for you, because for a strike to be effective you need a critical mass of people taking part in it. to accomplish that you need a strong organisation that is capable of mobilizing the masses through effective propaganda. all of this is completely out of reach for the right in current year america.

 

[Sped Xing]

I see you're trying to derail this thread, to which I say you should apologize for Waco, FBI.

You should apologize for being a pasty little nigger. Do you think you're the first failure-to-launch NEET to come here and try to use his race as an identity since he will never accomplish anything, nor father any children?

I wonder how many pages until the "I was only pretending to be exceptional" kicks in.


Oh and for the record, I'm not FBI. They don't investigate welfare fraud. Now post thumb.

 

[Siino]

The top half of your post is good but the bottom half is dumb. The system is great at sniffing out individuals attempting to defraud it, socially or financially. For the grifters who troon out to make money or move into some position of power, their depravities are a form of public self-flagellation. There's no official rulebook with a checklist that says you're entitled to something because you took hormones or cut your balls off. There is no official points system where you can level up like a video game. It's up to your degenerate peers to judge whether or not you've sufficiently debased yourself and if you're worthy of being accepted into their caste system. It's all about proving that you're internally fully subservient to their power structure.

Biden literally gave entitlements in the form of loan forgiveness to minority farmers this summer until someone sued and a judge put a stop to it. Pretty much every federal contractor of note is a "minority owned business", which in reality means that the nominal owner is 1/16th Cherokee or Black, or a woman married to the guy who actually runs it.

Varg Vikernes - literally a retarded lolcow - gets paid farm subsidies by the French government for subsistance farming with some beehives.

People are already doing it, and have been ever since Civil Rights law was made. What I suggest is that we make what it explicit.

Telling people to commit crimes is also unfathomably retarded. If you're acting as a dissident in other ways that are perfectly legal, your littering and jaywalking won't be ignored anymore. Those petty crimes will be used as a foot in the door to drag you into the corrupt court system where you'll be hung out to dry. Do you really think that troons are being placed in women's correctional facilities for their benefit? It's done to terrorize the women by unleashing a sex pest on them in a confined space. Do you think those judges don't know what the outcome will be when a mentally ill male pervert is dropped into a cage with a bunch of soft targets? Of course they do.

I agree, which is why I said that you should prepare a shield of deception before you do any such thing. You should register with the Democratic party, donate enough money to get a bumper sticker, and wear that token sign of fealty like a poacher wears a ghille suit. The most effective predators are the ones who don't look like predators.

And if you're in a woman's prison with the trannies, then you're not stuck in there with them; they're stuck in there with you.

The people in charge are a lot smarter and malicious than you give them credit for. They know what they're doing, especially on a small scale like dealing with an individual, and you aren't going to pull a fast one on them for your benefit alone. The two biggest things you can do to attack the system are to live frugally and openly air your grievances. By doing this you pay as little as legally possible in taxes, give as little money as possible to big capital, and signal to potential fellow travelers that they aren't alone. Pinching pennies like a Jew is also good for the environment when you stop consooming and throwing away egregious amounts of plastic and chemical waste.

Living frugally and openly airing your greivances just makes you a target. There's a Christian bakery that's been sued numerous times for not baking gay wedding cakes, gay lesbian cakes, and now a gender transition cake. He took it to the supreme court and won, last I heard. Despite that, the Colorado supreme court keeps upholding rulings against them.

If the rules exist only to be used against you, then learn how to not make yourself a target and how to use the rules to benefit yourself.

Considering that littering increases right wing sentiment, one should litter as much as you can get away with in left wing areas.

this take is naive and far removed from reality
"become a NEET to bring down the system" is just laughable. all you accomplish with that is throwing yourself into abject poverty and ruining your future.
"but they need us to keep things running without us things will fall apart" yeah and guess how they get people to cooperate? with money. people don't work for the system because they love the system so much, people work for the system because they get paid.

How is becoming a "community organizer" and taking money that would otherwise go towards sincere leftists "becoming a NEET"?

What we need to do is wake people up, and the only way to do that is to get the left to drop the mask. Who better to drop the mask than one of us posing as them?

what you're proposing isn't new, it's called a general strike and the idea has been around for over a hundred years. it's also not something that will work for you, because for a strike to be effective you need a critical mass of people taking part in it. to accomplish that you need a strong organisation that is capable of mobilizing the masses through effective propaganda. all of this is completely out of reach for the right in current year america.

Exactly, which is why we need controlled opposition inside the left. We need to camouflage ourselves to infiltrate them and to ruin their optics-cucking with pure, unbridled lefty wignattery. We need gay men fisting each other in the streets, we need trannies going into women's bathrooms and cat calling them, we need brawls between antifa and concerned parents inside school board meetings.

In order for things to get better, everyone must be made to feel the consequences of leftism as fast as possible, and as hard as possible. The best way to do that is to do it ourselves.

And by the way, this isn't my idea. None of these are. These are all things that the Bolsheviks did before and during the Russian Communist Revolution. Stalin himself was an informant for the Czar's secret police.

 

[Siino]

You should apologize for being a pasty little nigger. Do you think you're the first failure-to-launch NEET to come here and try to use his race as an identity since he will never accomplish anything, nor father any children?

I wonder how many pages until the "I was only pretending to be exceptional" kicks in.


Oh and for the record, I'm not FBI. They don't investigate welfare fraud. Now post thumb.

Feel free to address my actual arguments rather than the ones in your head, unless of course you are projecting.

 

[Sped Xing]

Feel free to address my actual arguments rather than the ones in your head, unless of course you are projecting.

You can't even spell "legitimate." Dox your thumb.

 

[Siino]

You can't even spell "legitimate." Dox your thumb.

The surest sign of a soy-poisoned faggot is excessive concern with trivialities such as spelling and grammar, combined with a total disregard for rational argument.

 

[Sped Xing]

The surest sign of a soy-poisoned faggot is excessive concern with trivialities such as spelling and grammar, combined with a total disregard for rational argument.

I see no thumb.

 

[Battlecruiser3000ad]

Always be Švejkin'

 

[DumbDude42]

How is becoming a "community organizer" and taking money that would otherwise go towards sincere leftists "becoming a NEET"?

What we need to do is wake people up, and the only way to do that is to get the left to drop the mask. Who better to drop the mask than one of us posing as them?

try and infiltrate them, you get sniffed out and cut off long before you can do any meaningful damage

also the whole "if we just show the normies how crazy the left is we'll win them over" approach is futile because nothing you can say or show to them stands a chance against the constant onslaught of indoctrination that the lefts billion dollar propaganda machine is blasting at them 24/7