How did you become transphobic? - Assuming you were once at least neutral

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Celso Bin Portiolli

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I still don't hate trans people, specifically those with severe mental issues, because I think they are mostly victims of the Zeitgeist, where they are straight up forbidden from searching treatment that does not involve "transitioning" in countries like mine.
I did, however, get fed up with every obese, depressed middle aged loser I know from the internet just conveniently "discover" transhood around the same time instead of hitting the gym.
 
I'm not transphobic.

In the correct use of the English language. I don't "fear" trans people.

In the common parlance of poor quality English, I don't care if people want to cross dress and call themselves a new name. I dislike, and feel that castration/sterilisation is unwise, but I respect bodily autonomy enough to say nothing about it. I feel there is a debate to be had here regarding being of sound mind and able to make these decisions, but lacking that expertise I'm willing to just let them do what they wish.

What I really dislike is being forced to participate in their act. I, unlike many politicians and public figures, actually do have an awareness of what a man and a woman is. I similarly am aware that chopping your balls off does not make you a woman, and likewise that strapping your tits down neither provides you with years of male socialisation or the hormones that influence the psyche of a male.

I am not required (yet) to acknowledge supernatural phenomena by law, and the idea that it is possible to change sex is currently equally fantastical. Maybe one day someone will invent a machine fundamentally able to reconstruct flesh and memories in a way to provide this, but our current primative interventions surgical or otherwise do not facilitate changing sex.

I may choose to use your word to describe yourself, but I resent that trannies can compel me to use their special words and require me to accept their worldview without question.

I can't help but compare it to religion. I came originally from a deeply religious country and became a very anti theistic woman watching the insane shit that was normal there. I moved to a country that rejects the idea that I must be compelled to accept the existence of magic space Gandalfs with an obsession with foreskins and anal sex, and I find it utterly mind melting that in the same breath the societies that are otherwise comparatively rational require me to accept the existence of women with penises.

I'm not transphobic. I'm anti-imbecile with a mild aversion to the fantasy genre.
 
I don't know if I did.
I previously thought transexuals were sort of weird and didn't totally respect the idea but figured if they were nice people and kept to themselves there was no reason to be hostile over it, and I still do; if suddenly things went back to the way they were ~20 years ago where transexuals were an odd fringe demographic of almost exclusively gay men the average person mostly didn't have any reason to think about, before it was socially reinforced and before anyone had anything to gain by declaring themselves transgender, I'd see no reason to make a big deal out of it.
Personally I still wouldn't respect the concept itself, but whatever. It's not a crime for people to have beliefs or lifestyles I think are weird.

We just live in a time where tolerance doesn't seem to be an acceptable position anymore. You exist in ideological lockstep or else.
 
I'm not really "transphobic" per se, I just see it as promoting narcissistic behavior and taking all kinds of people down the wrong path in mental help. It's not the "gender dysphoria" inbuilt condition that I am in disagreement with, that can definitely happen because sex chromosones can not develop properly and screw with the brain and hormones, or there's exceptional cases related to trauma, yadda yadda yadda, it's the idea that that person somehow is the other sex because of having that condition in their mind is where I stop agreeing. It should be like how it was treated before the DSM-V, as a mental disorder to manage and not some kind of social identity that someone should build around. To me it's like telling a schizophrenic that instead of saying "the voices in your head aren't true, we'll help you in trying to manage them" instead they decide to just say "yeah, the voices are perfectly fine and natural, we'll make sure that the rest of society agrees with that worldview", which is against all logic and helps nobody.

And of course, there's the segment of people that I believe don't actually have the gender dysphoria condition which makes up the vast majority of troons and pooners nowadays. Especially online, anywhere you see them it's just the most self-centered groups and behavior that I've ever seen. Those people tend to crowd in their own communities to echo chamber off each other, and they pull people that have similar interests to them, usually the ones that already have autism or are otherwise isolated socially somehow, and infect their minds, taking away anything diverse they once had and making them the same loud nightmarish shitheels as they already are. This group is the group that I honestly wish would just all go drown in the bottom of a lake somewhere. They all get to hide behind the troon identity as well, any criticism of what they do or how they go about their lives gets you an instant "transphobic!" label and you're now a persona non grata.

I will never, ever accept a transgender identity as a legitmate thing even if it was just the ones with an actual severe mental condition, but it's that second group that turns me from "I dislike the system that's being pushed upon everyone, but I sympathize with the people suffering" into "I wish they would all die off and stop infecting society and everything that I enjoy".
 
A long time ago, I had a boyfriend who wanted to transition in the middle of my relationship, and this made me angry, but it did not happen at a point in time where trannies had any ground in the public sphere. Naturally because this is how things were at the time, I was at least neutral to the idea if not just carrying a small chip on my shoulder about how I felt in regards to trannies. Later, I became friends with a couple of people who had also come out as transgender. I was not really against it and wanted to support them of course, but my vocal support was not enough for them and they wanted me to bend over backwards upside down and wanted me to say and do everything they told me I was ALLOWED to say and do- and i'm sure they would have loved to peg me up the ass just for the chance to spend time with them too if I let them.

Even later, another friend who has had an awful time with addiction (no surprises there) decided he wanted to live life as a "Samantha", he was already gay and spent too much time with faggot men who were into putting on dresses, and I was forced into this position again because this time it was not my friend specifically, but the only still communicating childhood friend of my SO. Later he would openly claim that he's walked back on it, which, good on him, but to be honest I don't take his word for it.

So my own experiences and over time the events occurring around have only done more to cement my opinions on how much I hate them (the least of these including men using it as an excuse to invade and take over fashion subcultures, and women's spaces and hobbies) I am rightfully disgusted and tired of them as a whole, but even with all that, I don't feel angry towards people who feel the need to show their support for this paraphilia, ESPECIALLY because it's considered "good" to do.

Call me a soft heart I guess, at the end of the day my MO of "live and let live" only applies to what's going on in my personal life. I only extend my real vitriol to people who want to impose their will on others or myself. Until then i'll keep making fun of dudes discovering a shower and a haircut.
 
By interacting with them/having the bad luck of consuming the same media that they consume. With them, everything is pornographic, everything is performative, everything is either with them or out to harm them. They are like the caricature of a crazy evangelical from the 2000s, but with actual political power and social clout.

You start hating them just because of their outlook at life, and that's without getting into criminal activities/sickening proclivities such as grooming and pedophilia that are not only widespread, but encouraged among them
 
I'm not transphobic, I just think there's so much ridiculous shit which falls under the banner of trans. Most normal people who support trans don't understand all the insane shit that is going on. They're just adopted a very vague idea of what trans is, know nothing, don't think about it. Speak to normies and they have no knowledge and put no thought about the horrific surgeries. They don't know that there's a cult of lies these people often fall for.

I've gotten into heated arguments with people who are passionate, "transwomen are women" and simply pointed out. "Your wife and a transwomen, they're both women but they're still different." And the response was literally, "I've never considered that." Yet that person was literally yelling at me and riled up at the notion I was a TERF.

There's just too must insane shit being snuck in under the trans banner and most people letting it are completely ignorant to that.
 
I always found transgenders weird, and I was originally transphobic. However, during the COVID years, since everyone on the news/internet/media were talking about how heccin valid troons were and since I had limited contact with others, I tried to convince myself that they were valid. While I regret a lot of stuff from that time period, it taught me to not base my opinions around other's opinions and morals.
 
When they tried to control language and discourage questions. Trans people tried to change reality and intimidate anyone who pushed back.

If they just went about their lives, I would still say "Live and let live."

But because they went overboard, I started to investigate and educate myself more about trans people, and found out how many of them are sex pests and fetishists. I think the most recent push-back comes from people like me who were neutral, until trannies showed their true colors. Now more people are seeing them for the creeps that they really are.
 
2 old friends of my killed themselves. Both were women who thought they were men. Before they transitioned they were such wonderful and bright people to be around, always super creative, always super peppy. But then they hopped on the trans bus and I watched them degrade for years until they killed themselves.
 
The reddit pogroms of July 2020.
The fact that tranny Janny moderators infiltrated every woman's space on reddit, banned and censored women left and right, demanded total obedience to their pronoun bullshit... AND they used API to track us and stalk us. I had no idea how much trannies hated women until the moment, let alone how much TECH hates women, period. They ultimately want to exterminate us for robotics. That was the beginning stages to "prepare" society for the total genocide of women. Tech moguls want to exterminate us for robotics and artificial wombs. First they will eradicate our human rights and use us for cyborg experiments and breeding programs, harvest our organs, then forcibly euthanize us. Once they've perfected their femme-tech, they will exterminate all women.
 
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