How do Americans benefit from the US being a "superpower"

Being a superpower seems to bring a lot of annoying shit like having to be world cops and competing with China and Russia for influence. Should we hand off all the superpower shit to Canada and just focus on ourselves?

The USA had to be a world superpower because it needed access to stable supply chains and foreign resources to have such a powerful economy.

Now not so much anymore. The USA can grow infinite food, has more than enough energy and has a large population to generate and circulate wealth. It literally has everything it needs within its borders and a reliable supply of cheap labor in Mexico for everything else.

If anything, the only thing justifying the modern American empire is the countries addiction to defense spending. Every US state has military industries within it and every major company sells to the army.


And then Prime Minister Diefenbaker cucked the entire Canadian aerospace industry just before the Arrow was to go into full production by giving in to American desires of NOT having a military aircraft with the potential to cut deep into sales for their own aircraft, in exchange for a bunch of shitty F-104 Starfighters (that Canada replaced less then 10 years later) and bunch of obsolete Bowmarc anti-ICBM missile batteries that they were no longer using. After that, Canada chose to exert it's influence in the world through trade and the troops for peacekeeping, but let the navy and airforce decline to today's levels.

So no thanks, Canada is plenty happy to leave all that superpower shit to America, Canada will continue to be the peacemakers rather then warmongers and regime changers.

Canadians jets wouldn't catch on due the lobbying power of the USA. The American empire is justified by military spending afterall.

The Arrow was dumb though. The point of NATO is that weapons are standardized to reduce costs and increase effectiveness. Canada having its own jet was needless.
 
They didn't choose to be a superpower, it just sort of happened. America is a superpower for two reasons, both tracing back to WWII.

The first: they sold tons of military equipment to the Allies and Russians while not engaging in a war themselves (at least not initially.) This meant there was plenty of profit to be made without the huge costs that war entails. They had to join in and spend eventually, but this was at the very tail-end of the war.

The second: Europe was royally fucked by land, air and sea warfare. Britain stopped being the world's top creditor. Germany was the enemy of every international bank in existence (while simultaneously screwing itself financially.) France was forcibly made Germany's cocksleeve to compensate for said finances. Everyone else was annexed, occupied or covered in landmines and tanks. Asia had no opportunity to stop being a shithole and capitalize, either; Japan was terrible at war, but they were good at beating up defenseless nearby Asian nations. This kept that side of the planet busy.

This left America as the largest, most glaring option for fleeing Europeans, Jews, bankers, Asians and everyone else who just wanted to carve out a peaceful existence. This brain drain of Europe into the United States is what led to them winning the Cold War as well, i.e. out-growing the only nation not totally ruined by WWII.

Why did I mention all of this? Because, to put it simply, America isn't the most powerful country in the world; it's just the least incompetent.
 
They didn't choose to be a superpower, it just sort of happened. America is a superpower for two reasons, both tracing back to WWII.

The USA was definitely working towards becoming a global power. At pivotal moments in the 20th century the USA was under influential leaders and presidents who were Navymen who had read Mahanian theory (Teddy, FDR) and the country had been slowly expanding its influence through ideas like the Monroe Doctrine and the events like the Banana Wars and Spanish-American War. Teddy was thinking about the navy more than anything when he had the Panama Canal made and FDR loved building ships despite his commitment to non-intervention.

Before WW2 the USA basically ruled the western hemisphere and Pacific and after the war they set up a global financial system that relied entirely on them.
 
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Canadians jets wouldn't catch on due the lobbying power of the USA. The American empire is justified by military spending afterall.

The Arrow was dumb though. The point of NATO is that weapons are standardized to reduce costs and increase effectiveness. Canada having its own jet was needless.

Agree with the first part, not the second.

The Arrow WAS going to use standard avionics and weapons systems, it was to be armed with first generation sidewinder heat-seekers and a standard cannon.

Canada is an enormous country, and part of it's commitment to NATO and NORAD was first-line strike discovery and interdiction from over the north pole, the shortest route from the Soviet Union to the USA as the missile flies.
Canada fulfilled it's commitment with the DEW line (Distant Early Warning) of radar stations across the arctic, and also was to have interceptors ready to go at all times to stop bombers and missiles.

No existing warplanes had the high speed and long range needed to fulfill this role adequately, and nothing was in the pipeline that could either.

Thus A.V. Roe, who already built licensed models of U.S. and British warplanes for Canada stepped in with a plan for a high speed lightweight interceptor with an all new titanium-based structure (never successfully used until the Arrow, that's why the Soviets injected spies into the project) that could cover thousands of miles at high mach speed without refueling.

It's a damn good thing real war never happened between the 'superpowers' since due to American lobbying and soviet spying (much of the stolen titanium tech went into the MiG 25 which was like a crippled bastard nephew of the Arrow) the loss of the Arrow severely reduced the quality and speed of Canada's ability to intercept an attack. The Bowmarc was useless, that's why America pushed it off onto Canada, and the Starfighters were fast but had abysmal range and handling at high speed, as well as a tiny weapons load.
 
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Our currency is the worlds reserve and there are many benefits to that. That is why we are a superpower.

The UK used to be a superpower until the pound crashed.
 
They benefit from being able to smugly tell europoors on the internet that no one gives a fuck about what their tiny backwards country thinks.
 
Our currency is the worlds reserve and there are many benefits to that. That is why we are a superpower.

The UK used to be a superpower until the pound crashed.
Your currency is an IOU note to the Rothschilds. While the Federal Reserve Bank can print as many of those as it wants, it's neither "yours" nor a currency.
Gold is the world's reserve, stupid goy.
 
Do you want to see a leaf on every flag?
that's what Canada being a superpower would look like.
At least if we make mexico one we get a cool eagle

Pic related, hell.
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no i was being unironic too
the main thing i remember from 1984 was the old man in the pub saying how half a liter isn't enough and a liter is too much, he just wants a pint
We actually DID switch over, it just never caught on in the public consciousness so for all practical purposes we didn't. But you do learn metric in the education system and it is sometimes used in mathmatic, scientific, and engineering disciplines.

Your currency is an IOU note to the Rothschilds. While the Federal Reserve Bank can print as many of those as it wants, it's neither "yours" nor a currency.
Gold is the world's reserve, stupid goy.
Did you know that if gold deflated to its intrinsic value(i.e. not inflated by being a value-reserve commodity) it'd command a price comparable to lead. You'd be able to plate the inside of your pipes with non-corroding gold and have it be cost-effective.
 
Did you know that if gold deflated to its intrinsic value(i.e. not inflated by being a value-reserve commodity) it'd command a price comparable to lead. You'd be able to plate the inside of your pipes with non-corroding gold and have it be cost-effective.
Except gold has value because it has the ideal set of properties to serve as a store of value. That makes up its intrinsic value. Aluminium was once more expensive than gold, because of high energy input required to isolate it. But that ultimately doesn't determine its value.
 
Except gold has value because it has the ideal set of properties to serve as a store of value. That makes up its intrinsic value. Aluminium was once more expensive than gold, because of high energy input required to isolate it. But that ultimately doesn't determine its value.
You know I had a conversation about this once with some people on why gold took off as a currency. I remember arguing at the time that part of what made gold useful as a store of value was its relative material uselessness compared to other metals at the time. Someone said that what actually made gold valuable as currency/store of value wasn't necessarily intrinsic to it but that everyone universally agreed upon its worth giving it great social/political value and utility to those who controlled it.

You are right though, gold has many traits that make it useful as a currency and store of value (The same traits that make it useful in your pipes funnily enough) It makes me wonder if we'll ever render it obsolete.
 
As far as I'm concerned.... no not really.
Certainly the military does; Certainly all those lobbyists do; Certainly politicians have to the influence they can throw around globally
But the average American?

We benefited from being a strong regional power, with influence over the Pacific and the Americas, but then we got greedy. Now I fear it is slowly killing our country; That we chose 80 years of dominance over the world instead of the longevity needed to last centuries.
 
And the only thing that will ever topple us, ever, is if enough of us are foolish enough to think we can throw all that away and become Just Another Socialist Nation and still live so well and so free.

This. Needed to be said one more time for added emphasis. The fact that we have candidates actually running as Socialists these days is frightening enough.
 
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Being a superpower seems to bring a lot of annoying shit like having to be world cops and competing with China and Russia for influence. Should we hand off all the superpower shit to Canada and just focus on ourselves?
We don't really have to be the world cops, that's just a pattern of behavior which has set in from over a century of too much concern for the outside world, and too little concern for what's going on in our own nation. I'm not saying that we should never go to war for any reason, but if we're being honest, we could have stayed out of both world wars, and most of our current conflicts had we decided to be more insular.
We were attacked first in both world wars
This is true, but in WW2 Japan had been our ally for many years prior, and we cut them off from oil, which to them constituted a betrayal. In WW1, we decided to only trade with one side which indicated we were taking a side in the conflict, and we were ultimately breaking an embargo. Had we in either conflict just stayed truly neutral, we could have stayed entirely out of it.
 
These days it's mostly the military-industrial complex who benefits from USA #1, except for a few scraps accidently falling down to the proles once in a while.
 
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I dunno, do Americans benefit more than say, canadians? We actually have to pay the bills for superpowerdom (I mean we just borrow the money, but still). I think the benefits are shared by the "western first world".

The benefits being things like containment of china, containment of russia, avoiding who even knows how many petty wars from breaking out. That's not counting the fact that simply by being so powerful and existing, we bring together people who would normally be opposed in common cause in competition with us.

I don't think we get many easily tangible benefits, how do you quantify an unknowable alternative?
 
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