How do i most easily explain the evolution of humans to my religious relatives?

StraightShooter2 said:
Show them the cringiest, fedora neckbearded atheist you can think of - and that will be almost undeniable proof that there is no intelligent design.
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The fact that atheists are always pathetic ugly losers is one of the best proofs for "intelligent design". It's obvious that God punishes atheists for their blasphemies and ressentment by making them weak ugly neckbeards.

Typical normal God-fearing person:
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("Nobody made me except my Lord" - Sergio Oliva)

Typical disgusting atheist freak:
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("There is no God" - Stephen Hawking)
 
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Dergint said:
Exactly what do you have to work with, and what do you want to accomplish? The literal thread title just says you want to explain evolution, like good enough they could pass a biology test. Normally people asking this question don't just want comprehension, they want to change beliefs.

Do you want them to be able to parrot the explanation of the mechanism back at you and pass a class?

Do you want them to believe that humans today are not exactly the same as humans 500 years ago, and that they are still evolving today?

Do you want them to believe that the origin of humans is evolution?

Do you want them to believe that evolution affects more than just humans?

Do you want them to believe an explanation that says there is no way God is involved at all?

Are you trying to use this as a Trojan horse to convince them of something bigger and therefore need to embed a few more talking points in the argument?

What do you hope to achieve here? Just make them (not) believe? Are they scientists or something so they might actually do something dumb given the wrong starting points? (The scientist variation would require a more specific and careful explanation to avoid creating a different kind of blindspot). Or is it a case where if you never mention it then it'll have literally no effect on the world?
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What i mean is that even though my parents believe in evolution, when it comes to humans they slam the brakes. So i needed some good sources proving that Humans came through evolution and how.
I realised that the title is somewhat misleading
 
FUTUREMAN said:
What i mean is that even though my parents believe in evolution, when it comes to humans they slam the brakes. So i needed some good sources proving that Humans came through evolution and how.
I realised that the title is somewhat misleading
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If you want belief, you're looking at the problem all wrong. You don't need sources proving evolution exists, you'll never break through to them that way.

One thing the religious folk got right is that everyone has a God shaped hole in their hearts. I disagree with the part where the hole exists specifically for God, but the fact that people who don't blindly trust religion tend to blindly trust something else seems accurate enough.

Some people fill that hole with a traditional religion, others fill it with SJWism or consumerism or science. Each of these are good in moderation, but can be corrupted to irrational ends. Yes, even science can be corrupted and abused like the Bible, look at Sokal Squared and grievance studies and retraction watch and Real Peer Review. Look at TDSers who in October said they'd never get the vaccine because Trump threw away safety regulations, then in December were frothing at the mouth because they weren't allowed to get the vaccine. Even people who believe in science don't necessarily follow the scientific method, and those people use science as a religion.

This "God shaped hole" is an evolutionary adaptation in humans. Evolution did not only give us physical attributes like thumbs and sphincters, it gave us mental capabilities like emotion and foresight as well. This bias towards irrational faith based lazy thinking is one such mental adaptation.

People who fall under these faith systems tend to have an evolutionary advantage against those who don't because of the natural community it creates. Even if they are denied a community somehow, faith in the face of extraordinarily grim circumstances is like a placebo effect on steroids that empowers individuals to power through the hard times. With respect to behavior, having the capacity for religion provides enough evolutionary benefit to justify its existence.

Religions tend to also have clauses like "only marry other believers" and "you and you descendants are never allowed to leave the faith". This is how the religion genes strengthen themselves. Some former feminists describe their entry into feminism as leaving the church, and their exit from feminism as them leaving the church again. That's how powerful the bias towards religion is: even when people escape one religion they just dive straight into another one.

You don't need to prove evolution exists to your parents. You'll never succeed that way because evolution itself is fighting against you. What you need is to find religion compatible explanations for evolution. Things like "God is so powerful that a day for us is like a second for him" and "even if God has the power to perfectly align our DNA as he desires, he doesn't want to because that's tiresome and he's powerful enough to make the laws of physics do that for him". "Negative genetic mutations are God's way of handing people their own personalized trials". "Sexual selection biasing towards tall men is just another way we express our free will and self determination."
 
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FUTUREMAN said:
What i mean is that even though my parents believe in evolution, when it comes to humans they slam the brakes. So i needed some good sources proving that Humans came through evolution and how.
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Do Neanderthals, Denisovans, and so on count as "humans" or not? Were they also created? How about Homo erectus? Australopithecus?
 
FUTUREMAN said:
Well according to them, all the other human species appeared AFTER Adam and Eve got the boot from heaven.
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If they believe in a literal Garden of Eden (and I assume a fairly literal reading of Genesis' creation accounts), I think you may be wasting your time, because that implies a lot of odd consequences. Young-earth creationism requires you to throw out most of the science that you would ostensibly be using to demonstrate human evolution. And whatever notion of "evolution" they have for nonhuman animals is probably quite odd.

As others in this thread have already said, it's probably best to just let this one go.
 
Well its usually a good thing to not be aggressive with your godlessness so I'd just let it go.

But personally I'd go one further than just letting it be. I'd repent and ask them for guidance.
 
Kosher Dill said:
If they believe in a literal Garden of Eden (and I assume a fairly literal reading of Genesis' creation accounts), I think you may be wasting your time, because that implies a lot of odd consequences. Young-earth creationism requires you to throw out most of the science that you would ostensibly be using to demonstrate human evolution. And whatever notion of "evolution" they have for nonhuman animals is probably quite odd.

As others in this thread have already said, it's probably best to just let this one go.
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I suppose. Shouldn't let stuff like this make me lose ties with them.
 
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