How do you feel about Harry Potter? - I mean the actual character

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I can't be the only one who hates the little shit?

Even when I read it originally in my early teens, I always hated him. He was so useless, always needed help from others. Truly, nothing made him special except his family. If anything, he stood out with his inability to actually be a good wizard in any discipline.

Then again, I loved the world around it, so I gave him a pass. But still.
 
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The movies ruined the Harry Potter universe for me. Reading the books I had imagined everything different in my mind, and when the movies came out everything looked "goofy" to me. Hard to put into words, just everything seemed sillier in the movies. The first movie killed the books for me. I never finished the book series once they came out, didn't watch the movies either after the first one. A stark contrast to Lord of the Rings where magic was fucking cool, and not goofy.
 
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Lichen Bark said:
The movies ruined the Harry Potter universe for me. Reading the books I had imagined everything different in my mind, and when the movies came out everything looked "goofy" to me. Hard to put into words, just everything seemed sillier in the movies. The first movie killed the books for me. I never finished the book series once they came out, didn't watch the movies either after the first one.
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I have to agree that the movies did not help. But I could personally not stand him even before them. It felt like an anti-hero in all the wrong ways.

I almost forgot the power of love... These books were very nice for the world building, but so much cringe in some ways.
 
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I was too old for it when it first came out, but it seems like a decent enough series for kids/early teens.

I’ve got nothing against the actual franchise, but as it is with most things, the fans completely ruin it for everyone else. The “read a new book” meme is completely accurate. It’s like a cult how much these losers worship HP. Even other IPs with autistic fanbases like Sonic and Star Wars don’t seem to attract as much crazy and pathetic as HP

That said, it is hilarious how much trannies are having a conniption fit over the new game’
 
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"You're a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection, Harry."
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There’s a rule of thumb in children’s literature where you want your protagonist a couple years older than your target audience. Harry Potter is baby’s first escapism which managed to trap a demographic that would not have escaped that rule of thumb until their mid-teens, long after a teen should have graduated to better material (even if they never leave fantasy as a genre). Combine the same for the movies, which would have reached an even larger demographic, and you end up with two slightly-staggered generations that have no idea the volume of work that is just as good if not better.
Further, Harry Potter was marketed on its higher length for a younger demographic than was assumed could stick with a book for so long. Rowling prose, however, falls into the issue that women authors run into (at least, more often than their male counterparts) where brevity is a rare-used tool.

Tl;dr Harry Potter benefitted from an audience that grew as he did, it would be just as good at 3/4 the length if Rowling was a man.
 
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The character harry potter is spiritually feminine. He never acts, only reacts to what happens to him. He never takes the initiative.
The vast majority of HP fanfiction tackles that fundamental point: what if harry was not a passive dork?
After the 4th year he knows he is hunted by the worst dark wizard in living memory and what does he do? Mope.

A depressive episode might be good for characterbuilding but at some point a man takes the heft in his own hands and acts. Harry never does.
 
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The main problem is that he's written by a woman, and female authors have a real tendency to create passive protagonists with little-to-no real agency in their own stories. Constantly reacting to situations rather than taking charge and making decisions on their own, and ultimately succeeding due to plot contrivance instead of actually overcoming obstacles themselves. You see this increasingly in modern tv-shows and films with woman taking over the director/show runner roles, but it's always been a thing with female authors.

It's probably why Mary Sues have become so commonplace in media; you can hide how useless the character actually is by giving them flashy powers or just making them so overpowered that there are no real obstacles they need to overcome.
 
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Eh? I guess it's because I missed the whole series as a kid, but I never really got into it. It's not bad though from the few movies I've seen, and a whole lot better then twilight or hunger games was. If I'm ever truly bored and have nothing to do, I might go though the movies at the very least.
 
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