How do you fight depression? - Let's help each other

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Convert a bad habit into a good one. Convert a habit that always makes you feel like shit into one that makes you feel better about yourself. If you are depressed, I guarantee you’ve already thought of at least one thing.
Also, try reviewing your day in reverse. Helps sprinkle awareness into things you do by compulsion.
 
That sounds more like someone stole your youth or something, because that numbness shit is just age, but saying you always felt down, but now with age kicking in, less so - just damn.
All the feels, fren.

Thanks fren, I appreciate. Most certainly depression is still awful but with age your brain starts to wear out and it's a lot like a natural anti-depressant, you stop feeling the extreme lows that you did when you were younger. Everything becomes a lot less emotional, and you become more accustomed to the way that you see the world - in shades of cold darkness.
 
There is no way to escape depression, we are living in hell, we are responding to the stimuli of realizing we are in hell, we are reacting to the purgatory around is, we are realizing everything is wrong, everything is fake, that there is no point to anything, society is wrong, it's become corrupt, we are all lost and we have been left to perish in a world that died a long time ago and we are simply ambling among it's dusty bones.

All of this white pill stuff doesn't work, if you work a full time job you don't have time to do anything, that is why you have not done any of these things.

Everyone is now lonely, clearly there is an external force causing negative damage to us all.
 
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Prepare for the next day. Similar to how sleep is a cheap few hours of fasting, preparing for the next day is a cheap way to feel productive.

Things I do the night before:

Caffeine. Caffeine pills or cold brew. For cold brew you just steep ground beans in water overnight. I get a jar and lid on the counter so in the morning it's just pour and go.

Decide on breakfast. No breakfast, pre-made frozen breakfast, fast food, make a choice so you're not thinking.

Shave. What little hair that grows in overnight likely won't kill your appearance and if you knick yourself shaving it'll heal up overnight.

If you shower in the morning, setup the bathroom. Get your clothes on a rack, towel ready. Ideally you're waking up and throwing yourself into the shower.

I bring a bookbag so I make sure everything's in there. I only need to open it to put anything refrigerated into it.

Once you get a solid routine all this takes maybe 10 or 15 minutes to do.
 
Everything becomes a lot less emotional, and you become more accustomed to the way that you see the world - in shades of cold darkness.
I guess I'm getting there, but damn...
Most certainly depression is still awful but with age your brain starts to wear out and it's a lot like a natural anti-depressant, you stop feeling the extreme lows that you did when you were younger.
Yep, that's pretty much what I meant.
 
I once again fell asleep on the couch and was awoken by hedgehogs, another waste of a Saturday, I'm fucking sick of life and I'm most certain that it objectively is terrible.

I now have the joy of another 5 days of suffering and pain in the wage cage. Then I can try to get 5 minutes of free time next weekend, maybe if I wish hard enough it will come true in one of these weekends by the end of 2025.

I hate working, I hate my life, I hate this timeline, can't live because it's decades more of the wage cage, can't die because it's an eternity of the magma cage, can't find time to try and find an exit to limbo, can't get the energy to escape even if I found a way out.

Fuck life.
 
I hate working, I hate my life, I hate this timeline, can't live because it's decades more of the wage cage, can't die because it's an eternity of the magma cage, can't find time to try and find an exit to limbo, can't get the energy to escape even if I found a way out.
Bro I've been there. Trust me it will get better. Just smile through the pain and most importantly, don't take it out on other people or let it influence your brain in any way. There's been way too many times I let the wage cage and corporate incompetence get to me and it has never ended well.
 
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A man's worth is determined by the consequences of his actions and I'm an absolute zero. As for now I less frequently do excercises or lift weights and I don't want to, I don't enjoy it.
 
I forgot one thing. Check for CPTSD, even if you had an ok childhood, since victims of it are usually in denial.
I honestly thought that my childhood had been pretty okay until being screened for a related condition, and ended up realizing just how fucked up half of it sounded once you put it into words. It turns out that you can normalize a lot of horrific shit when you're exposed to it from a young age and don't really know anything else, but that doesn't mean that your brain ends up developing normally as a result.
 
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but people are right, exercise and eating healthily helps a lot. I get pains in my knees and hips easily so can’t do intense exercises but go on walks most days now. I’m also eating SO much better than before. I’m not 100% over it but am much better than I was.
 
Ever since Ive been dealing with a stressful, potential life altering situation, I keep struggling to want to continue going. Ill be happy in the moment but only when I can be distracted from the situation at hand- like drinking out, playing videos, watching TV, etc. And even then I get depressed because I know all of this is limited, that I will more than likely be in a position where I can't do these things.
Everything I own and love, nope! Will more than likely have to get rid of 95% of it.
My gym? Whats the fucking point, its expensive and I will soon not be able to afford it.
Food? Why bother? I even tried coping with food like I used to, and it provided nothing. I guess thats good as it means Ive truly recovered from that, but still.

Everything I do leaves me even more depressed, no amount of gratitude I have for everything I do have compared to others helps either because all I can do is be like "okay well, I am sure if they lived through my life they would feel the same- all of this is based on guilt regarding "what ifs".

I feel like the only thing that could help is if I magically gained a friend whos around my age and likes similar things, but that will never happen unless I put myself out there. Ive been socially isolated for a long time. And even then that would take time + no one would want that type of baggage in regards to my social issues. What person would magically befriend someone whos struggling with domestic issues and is about to be living on the streets? Thats a red flag, they will most likely think I mustve done something to deserve it or that Im too unstable- its like when someone deals with severe PTSD, not many new people wanna stick around someone going through that, not because theyre bad people but just because it carries a lot of baggage. Most people wanna have fun, not worry about their potential new friend's physical wellbeing.

Just sucks, man. Cant even see a therapist until I know the verdict on whether or not I am going to be fired because my insurance is connected to my job. Im on Effexor and sure it helps, I used to be way worse off, but its not like my depression is irrational. Im tired of feeling this way though. Things don't feel worth it. I feel burnt out.
 
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Everything I own and love, nope! Will more than likely have to get rid of 95% of it.
Actually a funny aspect of my life. I get rid of things I don't use, especially never-worn clothes and things that are more of a nuisance to keep engaged with than to simply discard. Yet, I also want my apartment to feel lived-in and decorated. Yet, for the most part, putting up a few paintings and a fake plant does more for the place to feel lived-in than any amount of mechas and shit on the shelves. If anything, wall decorations and rugs are a cheap way to pep up your apartment. Things that clutter but aren't worthwhile to keep.

I've had a phone die on me and I lost all data. Since then I've started putting everything in the cloud to the point I'd lose nothing. The apartment-wise take on this I guess is having more things in your head than in your home. Invest in memories and experiences rather than memorabilias. I have some coworkers that are so rich in life experiences you could imagine them losing job and home and a few months later they'd be none the more hurt from the experience.
 
Testosterone (Sustanon 250, every 14 days), Lift heavy things often, eat whole foods (vegan, vegetarian, meat, whatever as long as its whole foods), do something meaningful with your life (dream job? Never too late for tertiary education), don't use psychoactive drugs often (couple times a month is acceptable if it improves your life in some way) and spend time with real life people in the real world.

No amount of pills will ever leave you feeling content.
 
Testosterone (Sustanon 250, every 14 days), Lift heavy things often, eat whole foods (vegan, vegetarian, meat, whatever as long as its whole foods), do something meaningful with your life (dream job? Never too late for tertiary education), don't use psychoactive drugs often (couple times a month is acceptable if it improves your life in some way) and spend time with real life people in the real world.

No amount of pills will ever leave you feeling content.

Save money, and just use Test Enanthate or Cypionate. Assuming you're not a nigger, act like a white man, and do daily injections, not this every two weeks bullshit. You can use a 31G insulin syringe, and you barely feel it. Lower injection volumes mean lower risk/severity of post injection pain as well. Especially if you're depressed, daily injections are easier than daily showers or daily tooth brushing.

Get bloodwork done before going on, and on a regular basis afterwards.

You should also use HCG. It mimicks the action of Leutenizing Hormone, and signals the testes to continue producing testosterone/ sperm even while you're using exogenous test. This helps to maintain fertility and testicular function, if you ever want to come off, or have a child. It also helps maintain production of neurosteroids and intermediary steroids, which can have an impact on mood. It can also raise estradiol a bit more than an equivalent dose of testosterone, but that's what's blood work is for. Some people aromatize more than others, but as long as you're using TRT doses, not steroid doses, and aren't death fat, you should be fine... Still, do your fucking bloodwork, nigger

Unless your depression is exclusively caused by hormonal issues, then going on test probably won't fix it, but it could help to some degree... Or it could make it worse and give you anxiety.

My natural test was slightly below average, but not enough that it would realistically be noticeable. Estradiol, however, was so low that it couldn't be detected. This was at the highest bodyweight I've ever had, so I was expecting estradiol to be sky high, and was pretty surprised.

Since going on, I've definitely noticed a big difference. I'm far less bitter and irritable. I've gone from routinely taking 4+ hours to fall asleep, to almost always falling asleep in under an hour, and the quality of sleep has increased dramatically. I previously had slightly achy joints most of the time, which basically disappeared.

All that said, I'm still at roughly the same level of depression. Its easier to force myself to go through the motions of life, but I still struggle to engage, or feel present. In a sense, there is something depressing about knowing that I've improved so many things, feel so much healthier, etc... Without REALLY feeling better. In those quiet moments, where I'm not doing anything, and by myself, it can definitely start to feel hopeless. I just try to remind myself that those moments pass, and part of depression is your mind convincing itself that you've always felt as bad as you feel in your worse ten minutes.

So, testosterone can definitely help, at least for a lot of people. But a lot of times, people talk about it like some miracle cure that's going to fix all of your problems. Truth is, if you already have 500 test naturally, you probably won't notice much impact on mood by taking it up to 800, or even 1000. Really, the biggest thing you'll notice (assuming somewhat reasonable bodyfat) are cosmetic changes due to changes in electrolyte retention.

You might notice more mood impact going up to 1500+, but that comes with an increased risk of anxiety, so you should definitely be cautious if you have preexisting mental health issues. If you do decide to go that route, I'd recommend starting at legit trt doses, and slowly increasing every 1-3 months. If you do run into issues, just go back down to the previous dose. Again, you need to get bloodwork. And check your blood pressure.
 
I keep myself busy to distract myself from the mental noise and the exhaustion.

It's one of the hardest balls to get rolling but it works eventually. That, and just generally not taking stuff too seriously, because I realized nothing really is nowadays.
Still holds true to this day, but with some adjustments.

Looking back, my relapses came due to the fact that I turned to workaholism in an attempt to tune out and escape terrible people I had no choice but to coexist with daily. I've been out of that only a few months ago, but kept my old habits while undertaking a really rough training contract for something I deeply care about but know little of, all far away from my usual haunts, which pretty much sent me straight into several breakdowns per month, and into a self-doubt spiral. To battle this, I picked up mindfulness habits I thought I didn't need anymore. It's far more manageable now, but I've trouble building habits, so I constantly have to keep myself in check with reminders, and get myself back on rails regarding food, sleep and fitness. I've also picked back up old psychology books I had regarding the subject that had helped me get better insight into my problems.

Recovering from old thinking patterns is no mean feat. Whatever you're doing, don't let rumination get the best of you, and if it does, it's okay: I've proven to myself that it's possible to triumph over your own learned retardation. Smile it off.
 
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I had tried everything. Adderall worked, it fixed me completely in this regard and I went from depressed NEET to employed and qualified in a couple months.
You must absolutely never take it as a kid/teenager. Adderall is a horrific addictive mind-numbing development-stunting drug for kids, and a wonderdrug for both productivity and antidepressant effects for adults. Once you find yourself successfully doing shit you want to do, the root cause of your depression will erode to nothing and drug based masking won't be needed.
 
People often say that if you've played games your entire life but suddenly lost interest, that's depression. But I get out of bed 6AM every day, read books if bored, go shopping if bored, clean and throw out shit if I can get away with it. I sometimes wonder if I got a minor depression but surely then I'd not be doing productive things? Granted I'm obsessed with feeling like I achieve something every day but surely that's the polar opposite of "nothing matters anyway"?
 
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