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What if you say you're with god but you just want to host a music concert and make loads of money?
How do you think the different Christian denominations compare to each other?
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And yet interestingly enough they don't celebrate a bunch of co-opted Pagan religions like the "real Christians" do. Go figure.
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No, but they have their own issues. Chief among them being the heresies of predestination and millennialism.
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Orthodox Christianity -> Has generally been pretty weak. It gives centralizing rulers too much power and its kinda why you see it in backwards places like Russia, Serbia and Greece. Its also the best example of Marx's view of religion. Russians believed that the Czar was a "Little Father" who would never harm them. He killed millions of them to enrich himself.
Catholic Christianity -> The most influential sect of any religion ever. It allowed the rise of the west through helping facilitate the phase out of slavery in Europe and by creating a unified shared identity over many disparate nations. It is now in decline due to it not actually representing that much but a status quo many dislike.
Mormonism -> It creates industrious people at the cost of making them insane.
Pentacostals -> It gives hope to people in the ghetto and genuinely pushes them to rise up from rags to riches. You see this religion exploding in Brazil, Central America and even the Philippines. Slowly killing the Catholic grasp over these lands.
Islam -> Islam was initially understood by the Romans to be a sect of Christianity. Its more austere and obsessed with "the literal word of God" which makes it harmful. The best thing about Islam is that it spread Persian culture and learning across the world. The downside is that it spread Arab culture around the world.
Catholic Christianity -> The most influential sect of any religion ever. It allowed the rise of the west through helping facilitate the phase out of slavery in Europe and by creating a unified shared identity over many disparate nations. It is now in decline due to it not actually representing that much but a status quo many dislike.
Mormonism -> It creates industrious people at the cost of making them insane.
Pentacostals -> It gives hope to people in the ghetto and genuinely pushes them to rise up from rags to riches. You see this religion exploding in Brazil, Central America and even the Philippines. Slowly killing the Catholic grasp over these lands.
Islam -> Islam was initially understood by the Romans to be a sect of Christianity. Its more austere and obsessed with "the literal word of God" which makes it harmful. The best thing about Islam is that it spread Persian culture and learning across the world. The downside is that it spread Arab culture around the world.
I used to think all Christian denominations were pretty much different flavors of "Jesus died to save us". Recently did a deep dive into my denomination and there are some significant differences in baseline beliefs from other branches. I'm definitely not a religious scholar, just a huge retard who had a well-researched pastor I really got along with (rest in peace). Hope I can explain everything well because I genuinely drank the Kool-Aid and believe in all of this.
1. "The Great Controversy"
- Seventh-Day Adventists believe that, besides God and Satan fighting over humanity, there is a greater struggle. Our planet was not the first created, only the first to fall. The story goes, God came over to make humanity, humanity is unique in that we are the first creation able to create new life (like God can), Lucifer gets mad he wasn't included in the planning. He goes in front of all of the other created worlds and argues that God is unfair, arbitrary, and that creation worships God because he is all-powerful and all-knowing, not because God loves them.
- Lucifer fights his war directly and gets the shit beaten out of him. However, this doesn't disprove his argument.
- God agrees to be put on trial, using his newest creation as the experiment. He argues that he will prove that he is just, he is loving, and his creation follows Him freely.
- Lucifer argues that God is arbitrary, creation only follows Him because he gives them nice things, and that creation only has the free will to do what God says.
- The purpose of human existence (not initially, but because Lucifer rebelled) is to prove that God was right to the rest of creation, and after our struggle, the universe will be greater for it because now there is proof instead of 'trust me bro'
2. Hell
- SDAs believe that the lake of fire is an eternal punishment, as in the effects last forever, not an eternal punishing. You don't burn for eternity, your existence just ends.
3. Death
- We don't believe in a soul or spirits or anything like that. Death is like going to sleep, which is why lots of SDA's are pretty peaceful near the end of life; It's like blinking and opening your eyes to the best day ever.
There's some other stuff; some guy (william miller?) tried to calculate the day Jesus would return from Daniel or something in the past and got the day wrong, look up the Great Disappointment if you're interested... Ellen G. White is considered a prophet, we have an emphasis on health, avoiding tobacco/caffeine, vegetarian diet... which I'd say maybe 20% actually care about... there is nothing more artery clogging than a SDA potluck... But with the health message came an emphasis on starting hospitals and becoming doctors.
It's pretty common for SDAs to consider the Catholic church the devil; some hardcore adventists think that the pope is the antichrist and the catholic church is the seven-headed beast from Revelation. With this came a rejection of the changes Catholics made to the bible and an effort to return to the Jewish laws (basically the ones that Jesus followed), so we go to church on Saturday, try to eat kosher by avoiding pork/shellfish, etc... but again the adherence varies greatly and is decreasing by the year.
Finally, like every Christian denomination, the SDA church is being taken over by globohomo. I'd say it's slightly more resistant to gay propaganda due to how autistic the elder boomers are, but the colleges have most definitely been taken over. As with anything, put your faith in God, not a church.
Hope I didn't horrifically misrepresent anything, and I wish I was more well-read in my own religion's texts to answer anyone's arguments against it. The SDA church has problems like any other man-made institution. But I've been saved, and I hope the rest of you kiwis are saved too. This life is not the end. There is a better one waiting for all of us.
1. "The Great Controversy"
- Seventh-Day Adventists believe that, besides God and Satan fighting over humanity, there is a greater struggle. Our planet was not the first created, only the first to fall. The story goes, God came over to make humanity, humanity is unique in that we are the first creation able to create new life (like God can), Lucifer gets mad he wasn't included in the planning. He goes in front of all of the other created worlds and argues that God is unfair, arbitrary, and that creation worships God because he is all-powerful and all-knowing, not because God loves them.
- Lucifer fights his war directly and gets the shit beaten out of him. However, this doesn't disprove his argument.
- God agrees to be put on trial, using his newest creation as the experiment. He argues that he will prove that he is just, he is loving, and his creation follows Him freely.
- Lucifer argues that God is arbitrary, creation only follows Him because he gives them nice things, and that creation only has the free will to do what God says.
- The purpose of human existence (not initially, but because Lucifer rebelled) is to prove that God was right to the rest of creation, and after our struggle, the universe will be greater for it because now there is proof instead of 'trust me bro'
2. Hell
- SDAs believe that the lake of fire is an eternal punishment, as in the effects last forever, not an eternal punishing. You don't burn for eternity, your existence just ends.
3. Death
- We don't believe in a soul or spirits or anything like that. Death is like going to sleep, which is why lots of SDA's are pretty peaceful near the end of life; It's like blinking and opening your eyes to the best day ever.
There's some other stuff; some guy (william miller?) tried to calculate the day Jesus would return from Daniel or something in the past and got the day wrong, look up the Great Disappointment if you're interested... Ellen G. White is considered a prophet, we have an emphasis on health, avoiding tobacco/caffeine, vegetarian diet... which I'd say maybe 20% actually care about... there is nothing more artery clogging than a SDA potluck... But with the health message came an emphasis on starting hospitals and becoming doctors.
It's pretty common for SDAs to consider the Catholic church the devil; some hardcore adventists think that the pope is the antichrist and the catholic church is the seven-headed beast from Revelation. With this came a rejection of the changes Catholics made to the bible and an effort to return to the Jewish laws (basically the ones that Jesus followed), so we go to church on Saturday, try to eat kosher by avoiding pork/shellfish, etc... but again the adherence varies greatly and is decreasing by the year.
Finally, like every Christian denomination, the SDA church is being taken over by globohomo. I'd say it's slightly more resistant to gay propaganda due to how autistic the elder boomers are, but the colleges have most definitely been taken over. As with anything, put your faith in God, not a church.
Hope I didn't horrifically misrepresent anything, and I wish I was more well-read in my own religion's texts to answer anyone's arguments against it. The SDA church has problems like any other man-made institution. But I've been saved, and I hope the rest of you kiwis are saved too. This life is not the end. There is a better one waiting for all of us.
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I mean that would make sense. Humans are adaptable so after a few thousand years one would probably just be chilling and cracking "how's the weather?" jokes.