How does the Motherfucking Saga change your view on past Chris content? - Self help group of victims of Autism

[A-Stump]

I'm torn on believing he actually even did it. He's been convinced and led into believing all sorts of weird shit that's happened that has no basis in reality. It's funny to meme about though

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

I'm torn on believing he actually even did it.

We are way past that point. People don't get charged with "incest/more charges pending" for talking shit on the internet. They've found something.

He's been convinced and led into believing all sorts of weird shit that's happened that has no basis in reality.

Oh, dear, we really need to compile all the times when Chris acted in a weird way towards Barb and the prospect of having sex with her.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Oh, dear, we really need to compile all the times when Chris acted in a weird way towards Barb and the prospect of having sex with her.

Yes, all those sensual back rubs made Chris think a genie would pop out of her vagina and grant him 3 wishes.

 

[taintmisbehavin]

I think Chris would have taken any opportunity that presented itself. If he was alone in the room with a passed out woman he would have gone for it. In this case, Barb was probably too demented/frail to fight back so he went for it.

What else could you expect from a sex-obsessed deviant with no regard for other people's boundaries or agency, who always thinks he's justified no matter what?

The number of times he did creepy shit to conscious women capable of escaping (kissing and trying to hold Megan’s hand, staring at Kacey’s tits, making a pass at the Hambeast, motor-boating Catherine after she said she didn’t want to hug him) should make us all happy that he never got invited to parties where there would have been drunk women.

 

[The handsome tard]

Honestly, it makes me speculate that he could be capable of other crimes, such as molesting children - and that his sheer ineptitude has been the only barrier between him and more serious things.

He admitted to Megan that he has these tendencies. Its clear that Chris, if he could get away with it and wasnt such a weak fuck, would do these things guilt free.

Chris always has been fascinated with the idea of being some sort of king-god type figure where all his actions are justified and anyone against him, no matter what, are the bad guys. A lot of tyrants and psychopaths have the same mentality, the only difference is that Chris is Chris and thus incapable of truly "acting" on any of these impulses so he has to settle on his imagination world. I dont think even that this is an autism thing (tho it surely doesnt help) but more of a character thing, especially with how he was raised...Chris ALWAYS got what he wanted and was always allowed to villify those that say "no" to him.

At this point, its all just confirming what I always thought about Chris, a man child with a very dangerous mentality but very weak body to compensate.

 

[A-Stump]

We are way past that point. People don't get charged with "incest/more charges pending" for talking shit on the internet. They've found something.


Oh, dear, we really need to compile all the times when Chris acted in a weird way towards Barb and the prospect of having sex with her.

There's a huge difference between being charged and convicted of crimes, my dude. There's no telling what happened until we actually hear from the courts. As for his past behavior fair enough. But I think it's good to keep it at least in your mind that it could be fabricated to completely fuck him up.

 

[Raiken]

There's a huge difference between being charged and convicted of crimes, my dude. There's no telling what happened until we actually hear from the courts. As for his past behavior fair enough. But I think it's good to keep it at least in your mind that it could be fabricated to completely fuck him up.

Barb was checked with a rapekit, they check for everything, and an elderly woman won't get a lot of action so if it picks up anything it's from chris.
They got him the day after and was charged with incest, that means they found something.

 

[A-Stump]

Barb was checked with a rapekit, they check for everything, and an elderly woman won't get a lot of action so if it picks up anything it's from chris.
They got him the say after and was charged with incest, that means they found something.

Except that kit needs to be processed and that doesn't happen in less than 24 hours. It's actually a process which can take weeks. Could it be, and stay with me here, that the police brought him in and charged him due to the deluge of comments both online and IRL from people going fucking nuts about him? They'd arrested him before the kit could have possibly been processed.

Just something to chew on.

 

[Raiken]

Except that kit needs to be processed and that doesn't happen in less than 24 hours. It's actually a process which can take weeks. Could it be, and stay with me here, that the police brought him in and charged him due to the deluge of comments both online and IRL from people going fucking nuts about him? They'd arrested him before the kit could have possibly been processed.

Just something to chew on.

She's an 80 year old woman, she is not sexualy active. Could it be, and stay with me here, that the police brought him in and charged him due to that they found that he actualy hurt her?

 

[Roger Whore]

Just think of the thing that Chris said that made you bust out laughing. For me there are two.
“NNNNNGGGHHHHUUUHHH- GON STRANGLE THAT CLUDE CASH!”

and

“Let me tell you something, I still have the medal up my ass AND IT HURTS!” ~ To BlueSpike

 

[Rukario]

Yes, all those sensual back rubs made Chris think a genie would pop out of her vagina and grant him 3 wishes.

All three of them being "Make the Dimensional Merge Happen!"

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

There's a huge difference between being charged and convicted of crimes, my dude

If there was nothing to charge Chris with, he would be back at 14BC on August 5th.

Except that kit needs to be processed and that doesn't happen in less than 24 hours

Chris was arrested 2.5 days later. If him talking shit on the web would be enough to charge him, he would be charged the same day or next day.

It's actually a process which can take weeks.

Unless there were obvious signs of abuse or Barb told them what happened.

I can't believe there are still people who can't cope with that.

 

[suckfest]

Whether we like it or not the story of Chris is a development story of an incestous rapist. For me it's impossible to watch classic stuff without this knowledge, but I wouldn't say it's ruined. The story is just complete now.

i feel like he’ll be back

Doesn't affect it at all. This is one of those things you wouldn't have predicted per se but when it happens the first thing you think is, that makes sense. It was only a matter of time. Chris has been open about his incestuous fantasies about Barb for like a decade now. It's been joked about for longer than that.

He's never cared about anybody other than himself. Trying to run Snyder over with his car removed all doubt about that. The only thing that stopped him from carrying out his fantasy was the possibility that Barb would fight back, and as she became increasingly demented and frail, he became more confident and eventually failed to resist his urge to do what he's wanted to do for a long time. In hindsight it was probably always going to happen. It's not all that shocking; if anything, it's more surprising that most of us didn't see it coming because no one thought he'd actually do it.

trying to predict chris issues difficult, he always surprises

 

[xXRonPaul_42020Xx]

People are talking about if this was foreshadowed by Chris's past or somehow inevitable.

I legitimately dont think he would have done this if he wasnt groomed by that glowniggers daughter. This chick spent a lot of time buttering Chris up for this, it wasnt something he just did on a whim someday. Yeah he was an awful person before, but this was the result of a clout chasing ween.

For me it does give past Chris stuff a darker feeling, not because I see the shadow of the future motherfucker Chris would become in his sexual akwardness but because of the weenery. Weens ultimately crossed lines we never even dreamed of crossing. We used to joke about one of them digging up Patti one day and that was as dark as we ever imagined it getting. Bluespike, the Julllay calls even Liquid Chris w the gaslighting/headfuck angle are a trip to watch now knowing how far someone ultimately went to try and join the pantheon of epic ween trolls.

 

[Ass-Manager]

All i can say is that Past Chris, VS whatever Troon amalgamation he has become from the last 8 years i feel are completely separate content wise. i can still get a chuckle from his old content. but nothing really from the last 8 years of Chris has been enjoyable.

the Boat sailed a long time ago and Chris diddling his mom is something i really could not see old chris doing, as much as barb coddled him over the years it still seems odd that he would jump to fingering his own mother. The delusions placed upon him has not helped at all and i would not put it past his warped mindset and a bit of prodding from the outside made him feel like this was a natural thing to do.

I'm definitely in no way defending him. but in all honesty he needed to be left alone a LONG time ago. At least after Bobs death some consideration should have been made. Those documentaries and Youtube homos that suckled at the teat of chris's past content just opened the doors to Zoomers to latch on. as we have seen unfold...

 

[Punished Brent]

I have been going through the whole saga again. listening to liquid chris, that fraggle rock vhs he gave bob for christmas, ivy.
I don't even know what to feel, chris is clearly not well. he was never mentally well and his interactions online only made him more delusional. his parents failing health and a group of online trolls encouraging his worst behavior.
I mean he knew that doing that to barb was wrong. If he did do that. But chris is super malleable and his current condition is a result of his interactions online over the years.
IDK man the whole thing fucks me up

 

[The Anarki Main]

I was honestly hoping he'd be put on parole or something so the trolling could still go on. Rape definitely crosses the line though, I can understand why locking him up is a good idea at this point. Makes me wonder how he went this long without being locked up in an asylum.

 

[The handsome tard]

trying to predict chris issues difficult, he always surprises

When we believe that there are lines he wont cross, he does.

"At least Chris doesnt shit himself"
"At least Chris wouldnt shove a medallion up his ass"
"At least Chris wouldnt get mad over someone pretending to be him online"
"At least Chris wouldnt get mad over a parody of his comic"
"At least Chris wouldnt be crazy enough to go trans"
"At least Chris wouldnt be crazy enough to be married to imaginary people"
"At least Chris wouldnt be crazy enough to violate Barba-...oh...."

 

[McSneaks]

He abused his pets if I recall correctly. So fuck him.

"Rape and abuse old people all you want, BUT DON'T YOU DARE YELL AT A DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Also lol at the dudes that said "it made me realize he could do the crime, even children!!!"

You're telling me it took you this long to realize that Chris wouldn't ask anyone for ID if they offered him sex? Are you retarded (don't answer cupcake)

 

[bbqtool]

I legitimately dont think he would have done this if he wasnt groomed by that glowniggers daughter. This chick spent a lot of time buttering Chris up for this, it wasnt something he just did on a whim someday. Yeah he was an awful person before, but this was the result of a clout chasing ween.

I think so too. I think people underestimated his autism, (myself included) especially back then. His sexual problems are a huge issue for people with special needs. Ironically, if his parents took some money from his government assistance, saw having him see a prostitute once a month as not "dirty and unchristian" and actually helpful this would help normalise his behaviour in the way they wanted and expand his understanding of his sexuality. I have a friend who works with special needs people who organises this and has had a lot of success with reducing the stress of parents/carers. (I don't anymore, but I worked with autistic people for about 10 years and it makes a lot of sense to me. I also live in a country where mental health care is behind the US) The prostitute could even give him some more healthy ideas about his body, treating women and pleasuring himself. He would likely listen because "dick getting wet is good. I'm conditioned to feel this way and want it to continue." Unfortunately, this is what happens when you rely on "church counsellors" who are in way over their head. "Forgiveness - Blessingssssss" is not enough when it comes to situations like this. If there is one thing I'd like for that counsellor to take from this is that when it's too much for them to handle, it's not above them to refer them to a specialist. It's not that hard to find them. Getting help for your autistic kid is fine, but there are times when getting different kinds of help is necessary. That's what a counsellor has the power to do. This is a textbook case of that.

Unfortunately, his power over Barbara, him being convinced that rape was an inevitability if he didn't have a sexual release, (sounds like anime to me) and this dumb bitch on the Internet being influenced by people who convinced him of the dimensional merge getting him to do even more fucked up shit was a perfect storm for what happened. His being a carer for Barbara was an atrocity within itself and if you want to "blame" people, I would blame the people in charge of family welfare. It'll get written off as "well these things fall through the cracks" and it won't change anything and will happen again. I know for a fact the police were aware of him. There is a prank call of a soundboard on youtube somewhere where he calls a police station and the officer on the phone speaks to him as if he knows him personally and asks "is everything alright?"

Mental illness is an illness. If you only eat McDonalds and pizzas and play video games for 4 hours a day (probably more) in bed then yeah, you're going to fuck your body up. If you're around enablers (intentional and non-intentional) of the symptoms of your comorbid conditions, (not just autism) are already badly socialised in an environment unlivable for normal people and can't take care of yourself, then of course you're going to be a goddess married to Mewtwo if your (only) source of dopemine is linked to the Internet, you have autism, you love computers and ego-feeding attention. It's not a matter of "too far gone." He has autism. He can't be any other way the way things are.

The best thing that could have been done in a perfect world (and might have happened, I don't know) was to press family wellfare in Virginia. Not just let them know, but to actually press them and make it clear that if nothing is done, a terrible thing will happen and it's their fault for not investigating it. Hindsight is a mother fucker but if this was so "unsurprising" maybe it happened? I wouldn't have done it (even if I lived anywhere near his house) because I don't really care enough to be invested. I have my own shit to work with and can't be everybody's saviour but I get the impression some people wanted to be that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a "blame the system, not the person" thinker. He broke the law in a terrible way. I don't necessarily think jail will be that bad for him. He's not above jail. If anything, if his autority figures have that much control on his outlook at life, he could actually become a more adjusted person if he is forced to. After jail, if he is put in some sort of care facility, this is the best outcome. I don't think straight to a care facility would be 100% helpful. Barb is in a better place too, so we can be thankful for that but at the same time it took her being groomed and raped by her 40 year old son for people to take it seriously.