How Far is "Too Far?"
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The Mackers
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To be honest, I would like to listen to that call, for morbid curiosity rather than for lulz... Chris, like a lot of people here, is a big fascination for me. Wouldn't make me feel bad listening to it, because I wasn't involved and didn't record it.
I don't think everybody who wants to hear it is a sick fuck or an A-log or anything, this is just human nature!
But I can get by not hearing it and can appreciate the holders reasons, I don't wanna press the issue. I just feel like maybe there have been a few who've put their opinions across a bit strong and makes them a target
I don't think everybody who wants to hear it is a sick fuck or an A-log or anything, this is just human nature!
But I can get by not hearing it and can appreciate the holders reasons, I don't wanna press the issue. I just feel like maybe there have been a few who've put their opinions across a bit strong and makes them a target
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The only thing I see is mention that Chris didn't seem concerned about his fathers health issues. Of course, we've seen his e-mail about his dream saying Bob will live to 2015. Chris likely didn't concern himself about Bob's health issues because Death said Bob would live for a few more years.
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And of course we know the Grim Reaper proved to be a ]
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So Chris thinks that both GodBear and the Reaper are trolls.
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Well, in general it's plain wrong to make fun of or ridicule people with mental disabilities, but in Chris' case it doesn't really matter because he's choosing to act like an idiot on the Internet and in public. Many autistics know how to behave much better than that.
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Yeah, like they say, if you run around in public naked, don't yell at gawkers for being peeping toms.
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As far as I concerned, I wouldn't bare the audio. I actually had respect for Bob, supporting his manbaby son and fat old wife together for nearly 30 years. And to hear a grown man cry about the loss of his father... no... just don't release. Maybe, JUST MAYBE the transcript, but all and all, prevent it.
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Hating Chris for whatever reason is like hating a puppy for biting you when you startle it - it is uncalled for, retarded and there's nothing cool about it whatsoever.
What is too far? That's not for me to decide. I am just an observer. As are 99% of people here. We observe, we don't decide a thing. What goes too far is that which we never got to see and never will. And I'm fine with that.
PS: To release an audio tape of him crying over the death of his father is something I personally find distasteful. But it does make an excellent point towards A-Logs: Chris does have emotions, he does care for his family and he does understand the gravity and the irreversibility of death.
What is too far? That's not for me to decide. I am just an observer. As are 99% of people here. We observe, we don't decide a thing. What goes too far is that which we never got to see and never will. And I'm fine with that.
PS: To release an audio tape of him crying over the death of his father is something I personally find distasteful. But it does make an excellent point towards A-Logs: Chris does have emotions, he does care for his family and he does understand the gravity and the irreversibility of death.
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This turned out to be a great thread, on total accident. Now, I would download the black tape call without hesitation if it got posted online... However I respect the decision to keep it private, and I heed the warning that it's not entertaining. I don't want it to go viral or get featured in Youtube Poops, so I won't ask for it. I have no interest in laughing at Chris mourn his father's passing. I'm actually just interested in hearing Chris say something that isn't total bullshit for once, an honest and rare vulnerable moment when he isn't posturing like a dictator. I view Chris like a goofy younger brother who I wish I could just shake some sense into, but know I can't. So I just observe.
This is too far to me: Too far is interacting while using the same racism, homophobia and misogyny that Chris somehow perceived was ever acceptable. Let Chris be the one to drop F-bombs in front of first graders or openly talk about sex preferences to everyone around. Too far is threatening harm on Chris or his loved ones. Again, Chris has that covered. Too far is scamming Chris for profit. That doesn't include encouraging the guy to waste his tugboat on anything other than vidya. Too far is probably other things, but if you need it all spelled out, you just regret having a morbid interest in Christian's life and maybe you need to give it up.
This is too far to me: Too far is interacting while using the same racism, homophobia and misogyny that Chris somehow perceived was ever acceptable. Let Chris be the one to drop F-bombs in front of first graders or openly talk about sex preferences to everyone around. Too far is threatening harm on Chris or his loved ones. Again, Chris has that covered. Too far is scamming Chris for profit. That doesn't include encouraging the guy to waste his tugboat on anything other than vidya. Too far is probably other things, but if you need it all spelled out, you just regret having a morbid interest in Christian's life and maybe you need to give it up.
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I have my own personal boundary, but I'm generally unwilling to impose it on anyone else. If someone wants to be an asshole, I figure it's their call to live with the reward/consequence of their actions. Lots of people get shit, who "didn't deserve it." That's just how it is. If I'm in a position where I can help someone out, if I don't harbor a grudge against 'em, I'll consider it. Chris falls in neither category.
With that said, I think Chris is the most remarkable when he's not being controlled. That doesn't mean I don't like trolling, but outright blackmail isn't as interesting as setting up a situation before Chris and letting him come to his own decision how to handle it. Jack Thaddius flat out telling Chris to hump his PS3 for hours is amusing, but less interesting, than Liquid Chris presenting him with a rival and letting Chris do what he does.
I'm one of the least sympathetic folks here, in regards to Chris' plight. Despite this, I'm not here to relish in his suffering (I do, but it's not my primary motivation by a longshot). But, even if that was my motivation, I just don't see any need to manufacture grief for Chris. So many factors, over several decades, have naturally come together to write the lamentable story of the Chandler Clan. Grief is almost inevitable in that house, even if nobody else in the universe had any influence over them.
With that said, I think Chris is the most remarkable when he's not being controlled. That doesn't mean I don't like trolling, but outright blackmail isn't as interesting as setting up a situation before Chris and letting him come to his own decision how to handle it. Jack Thaddius flat out telling Chris to hump his PS3 for hours is amusing, but less interesting, than Liquid Chris presenting him with a rival and letting Chris do what he does.
I'm one of the least sympathetic folks here, in regards to Chris' plight. Despite this, I'm not here to relish in his suffering (I do, but it's not my primary motivation by a longshot). But, even if that was my motivation, I just don't see any need to manufacture grief for Chris. So many factors, over several decades, have naturally come together to write the lamentable story of the Chandler Clan. Grief is almost inevitable in that house, even if nobody else in the universe had any influence over them.
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The worst thing I've ever done to Chris is read about him and laugh. And I thought a lot of what the trolls did WAS "too far," honestly. He's at his best when he's trolling himself, or when the trolling is like what you'd do to playfully tease a child. Like the whole Liquid Chris thing was exactly how a child would react if you did the exact same thing.
"My name's Chris."
"No it's not, Uncle Jim, I'm Chris!"
"No, I am."
"NO YOU'RE NOT, I AM!!!"
Making him destroy his possessions and shove things up his ass? Yeah, too far.
"My name's Chris."
"No it's not, Uncle Jim, I'm Chris!"
"No, I am."
"NO YOU'RE NOT, I AM!!!"
Making him destroy his possessions and shove things up his ass? Yeah, too far.
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Heh, well, a lot of the time, people say that they prefer Chris without external influences. But without external influences, Chris collapses into a pile of laziness. There are definitely different techniques in how you influence Chris, and some are better than others, but you can't have no external influences.
And if you're talking about the PS3, that's one of the few things Chris did that I don't have a problem with. No one suggested that to Chris or anything like that. We put up an ad for trolls to destroy Chris' ps3. If they did it, they'd get $9000 or some shit. No where was there any suggestion that Chris himself could claim the money. No one thought Chris would actually destroy his ps3. Chris was being an extremely stupid, greedy dipshit in that situation. 100%
It's kinda like when Chris did the fanta thing. He completely misunderstood the whole point of video.
And if you're talking about the PS3, that's one of the few things Chris did that I don't have a problem with. No one suggested that to Chris or anything like that. We put up an ad for trolls to destroy Chris' ps3. If they did it, they'd get $9000 or some shit. No where was there any suggestion that Chris himself could claim the money. No one thought Chris would actually destroy his ps3. Chris was being an extremely stupid, greedy dipshit in that situation. 100%
It's kinda like when Chris did the fanta thing. He completely misunderstood the whole point of video.
Just wondering -- why was the audio for the call even recorded if it wasn't going to be released? As far as I can tell from what people are saying about it, there was no real information in that call other than Chris being (rightfully) sad about his father's passing. So wouldn't it make sense to just delete it?
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