How Fucked is the Third World, Really?

[Baseton Repillé]

I always hear stuff about how even "poor" first-worlders have it really good by global standards. Is that actually true, or is it hyperbole? I mean obviously the typical thirdie can't consoom nearly as much, but it seems like that's NBD as long as you're living in a more or less functional society.

The reason I ask is that I read this essay a while ago, titled "What's So Bad about Being Poor" by Charles Murray. His basic argument was that being first-world poor sucks not because of an inability to buy things, but because you inhabit a social milieu made entirely of people who are too retarded/criminal to earn a decent living, which is otherwise pretty easy to do in America. Therefore, even if poor Americans still have it pretty good in material terms, an urban ghetto is still a worse place to live than some backwater farming town in Southeast Asia or something.

It's an interesting theory, but I don't totally buy it. Are there any kiwis in shithole countries that can weigh in?

 

[Chilson]

The difference between the Ghetto and some backwater third world shithole is the comparison to its surroundings. The ghetto is PERCIEVED as more of a shithole because its typically surrounded by a "nice" first world society, which only enhances how shitty it is.

The third world is way worse off then the Ghetto, but everything is awful so its not perceived as badly as there is nothing around it that's better to compare it to.

Think of it like this, a dog turd in a white clean lab stands out and is immediately noticeable. Several dog turds in a rundown shit smeared bathroom don't stand out as much and can easily be missed by observers.

The dog turd clearly has a much better existence in the white lab than its more unfortunate cousins in the shit smeared bathroom, even if its perceived far more as being a dog turd than them.

 

[Waifu Denier]

Who do you think feels more accomplished with his life, the man who makes 50k a year while everyone he knows makes 25k, or the man who makes 100k a year while everyone around him makes 200k?

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world

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People in developing nations consistently outrank developed nations in standardized happiness surveys FWIW.

Likely due to having stronger, tighter knit communities. Even small towns in the US are pretty easy to feel isolated in.

 

[Pedophobe]

Likely due to having stronger, tighter knit communities. Even small towns in the US are pretty easy to feel isolated in.

Nah ignore me I suck cocks that graph showed the opposite of what I thought (therefore their methodology is completely wrong).

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Nah ignore me I suck cocks that graph showed the opposite of what I thought (therefore their methodology is completely wrong).

You vastly underestimate the misery of the third world and how deeply hidden it is behind thousand layers of cope about community, authenticity and SOUL. The first world really is happier if you look past the baseline kvetching about egg prices and muh mentals. The graph/table is more correct than you think.

 

[Testacles Maximus]

A college kid went to a third world country. They arrested him and, according to at least one defector, they tortured him, then sent him home near-dead. All for either defacing a sign or doing nothing at all. You don't hear about that sort of thing happening in US prisons very often.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

it's very interesting when you visit Mexico because those large parts of it that are indistinguishable from the United States of America but then when you go to the bad parts oh my God it's like you stepped into some sort of alternate universe.
we were in this small Mexican Village and there was a pack of feral dogs and children wandering around aimlessly.

like when people openly talk about oh yeah don't go down that Road or else you're going to get kidnapped and murdered by the cartels just normal stuff like that.
and you ask these people why don't they vote someone into office who would deal with the Mexican cartels and they just stare at you like you're some sort of crazy person.

I mean you're really also depends on the third world country like if you watch documentaries from Afghanistan or Mongolia they actually care about one another other than that yeah a lot of these countries are legitimately filled with what I would call crabs in the bucket mentality.

 

[Marcus Zuttenheim]

There wouldn't be any third world countries if they all just got annexed.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

Sure, I live in Uruguay so let me tell you about it.

-We pay exorbitant taxes in order to fund a welfare state that these days only serves to maintain a class of parasites who's only goal in life is to shit out as many kids as humanly possible while not any stable job at all.

-Our politics are dominated by 2 large coalition parties (One Centre-right and the other Centre-left) who's only real difference is in their rethoric and the occassional culture war topic of the day.

-Violent crime has become a serious issue in two states of the country, the Capital (Montevideo) and my own state, both combined account for something like 95% of all murders in the country and over the last 20 years, 15 of Centre-left and the last 5 of Centre-right rule, absolutely fuck all has been done in order to adress it as neither party has the will or the competence to actually do something about it.

-Due to taxes and tariffs on retarded shit, everything is expensive as fuck so those who live in the border with Argentina or Brazil tend to buy everything from electrodomestics, to cars and even groceries from them because depending on the product you can see a price difference of around 60%.

I think those are the main issues.

 

[Kiska]

I remember watching a dude talk about Indians who study abroad and living in their homeland and many of them actually quite like it there with many were going back after finishing their studies, and that environment we see in is a literal hellhole by our standards

 

[Chongqing]

I think it's true because if you're poor in America, you can still go to a beautiful public park for free and enjoy it by yourself. It will be clean and safe. If it isn't safe, the police will come quickly and help you.

In a third world country, you may not have that luxury.

Speaking of luxury, imagine being rich in a third world country. There wouldn't be many world-class restaurants you could go out to or amazing experiences you could have there.

 

[PovertySprocket]

Civil engineering is virtually non-existent in the third world. The little they have was outsourced, ran hard and parked wet.

 

[cybertoaster]

There is no "third world" and I'm not talking semantics like cold war terminology, I'm saying this because there is no mass of poor countries that are equally poor and inside those countries like in Brazil you have places that look like Malibu and others like Baltimore with shantytowns, same as here in America. Some third world countries have infrastructure like say the USSR, maybe a bit better, and others don't even have paved roads, or completely destroyed ones. Countries in Africa are way poorer than in LATAM for example, way less developed, way lower HDI too. Some LATAM countries are closer to being first world than they are to be the third world of Africa.

The reason I ask is that I read this essay a while ago, titled "What's So Bad about Being Poor" by Charles Murray. His basic argument was that being first-world poor sucks not because of an inability to buy things, but because you inhabit a social milieu made entirely of people who are too retarded/criminal to earn a decent living, which is otherwise pretty easy to do in America. Therefore, even if poor Americans still have it pretty good in material terms, an urban ghetto is still a worse place to live than some backwater farming town in Southeast Asia or something.

He's a retard coping and pretending things are worse here, seen rich commies doing the same stupid argument. Its much better to be poor in America or Europe or Japan than anywhere in the third world, the shittiest parts of Compton are way better than the average favela that has no running water. And even if you're in thugsville or hicksville you can still get a scholarship, specially if a minority, and apply yourself to at the very least get your ass out of the ghetto/trailer park and into the middle class. Social mobility is near zero in third world countries, you are born poor and you are most likely gonna die poor. And even if you become rich you're still a third worlder, your passport its from a third world country, your government can't and won't intervene for your businesses abroad because its a third world country with no power, and odds are you can't move your business to a first world country.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Civil engineering is virtually non-existent in the third world. The little they have was outsourced, ran hard and parked wet.

Interestingly, they strongly resent the outsourcing. The recent history of flood protections in Jakarta is an interesting example of this as Dutch engineering firms are being ran out by the local government because they do not sufficiently include local stakeholders in their decision-making processes. The third world has a strange tendency to insist that the least-educated fisherman must have a direct line of contact and superiority over the expensive, foreign consultants hired specifically for their expertise.

 

[Lokenstien]

It may seem minor but the near ubiquitousness of relatively clean fresh water is really undersold as first world glory. I mean the first world has so much of it we literally shit and piss into it rather than save it for drinking.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Kikes need them for White replacement duty, the niggers will be fine.

 

[Town Drunk]

I'd imagine it varies from place to place, and region to region. If you live in the Philippenes or Indonesia, there are big cities that it's fine to live in, and backwater shit holes where you have no running water and roving gangs of religous extremists. Even China, which is rivaling for hedgemony with the USA has villages where time may has well have stopped for the last 200 hundred years.

Or perhaps you actually live in a jungle tribe in South America. Yeah, you may not have the conviences, or life expectancy, but seeing as they refuse to join society, I'd guess they are happy with their lifestyle.

Then you have Somalia, and Gaza, and the only reason they haven't set a Far Cry game there is because they'd be called racist, and the game would be too depressing to be fun.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

This reminds me of Mexicans saying how they don't take Internet privacy very seriously, because they could just end up killed by a cartel without warning anyway.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

You know when people talk about hitting rock bottom? The 3rd world is basically the rock bottom of human existence. It's been that way since humans had society, and isn't going to go away any time soon. The good thing about rock bottom is that if you can survive on that level, at least there is no ability to fall further. Unless you believe in my philosophy, being that there is always a deeper level of hell you just haven't found yet.