How likely is it that aliens exist?

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Personally, I believe that they're either typical wildlife or if they are intelligent then they're trapped and isolated on their planet just like us. I'm sure they're speculating about life beyond their planet too, but like us they've had no luck in finding anyone else and there's little they can do about it.
 
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Pretty much every planet observable to us is unlikely to hold alien life that can advance to the level of humanity. Humanity gonna be the aliens.
 
Aliens do not exist. Everything that exists outside of the firmament is just an illusion. That's why there are no pictures of the moon.

The "space aliens" that people see all the time are actually an advanced reptilian race that comes from both outside the Antarctic walls surrounding the known flat earth or from deep beneath the sea. Probably from Atlantis.
 
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grump said:
My pet solution to the Fermi Paradox is that once a civilization reaches a certain stage it tends to be overtaken by libtardation and the suicidal tendencies that come with it and implode.
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No, humans never shaked off their retard ape tendencies, so they're not logical enough.

A hypothetical alien species could improve beyond that and act with actual common sense, destroy corruption, act with empathy towards each other, favour ethical progress, and so on.

You know, what humans should be doing but are not because sex, money, addictions, greed, hatred, apathy. Monkeys.
 
We Are The Witches said:
No, humans never shaked off their retard ape tendencies, so they're not logical enough.

A hypothetical alien species could improve beyond that and act with actual common sense, destroy corruption, act with empathy towards each other, favour ethical progress, and so on.

You know, what humans should be doing but are not because sex, money, addictions, greed, hatred, apathy. Monkeys.
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Counter-point:
Without our greed and violence we would be hippy agrarian communes, R&D would be dead because there’s no reason to compete. We would never reach the stars.
 
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Staticness said:
Counter-point:
Without our greed and violence we would be hippy agrarian communes, R&D would be dead because there’s no reason to compete. We would never reach the stars.
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No, there is ambition to learn & to progress, intellectual creativity and drive to make things better for everyone.

Again, what you're saying is just lazy-monkey-brain doing the work, so maybe that's be the case for humans. Not for aliens.
 
I would think aliens are a confirmed fact by now. After all they try to cross the border nearly every day.
 
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100%. I saw some Mexican and Guatemalan aliens at the store today.
 
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I’d say 100% for single cell organisms and other low complexity organisms. Human level intelligence is probably 90% likely but distance eliminates the chance of knowing of the other. Current estimate is there is anywhere between 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies.
 
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Every scale gets harder and rarer.

Germs its easy.

Complex life? look at the millions if not billions of species that have ever existed here.

Intelligent life? well there has only been one genus out of all of those lifeforms that had any real intelligence (homo) and of those only one species was really smart (sapiens).

Aliens running around chucking spears at flying slugs or whatever? sure why not? there were tons of stone age tribes.

An alien civilization that builds pyramids? probably.

Ones reaching industrial-levels like us? maybe, there might even be some nuked planets out there where some tard pushed the button.

But the one you want which is super-advanced ayylmaos with FTL ships the size of a city and dyson spheres? yeah probably not, which is why we never seen one.
 
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Why can't we be equally retarded
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Because the cognitive difference between the species we know is tremendous, which means the chance of it being the same is virtually non-existent statistically.

It's one of the few good ideas that neil degrasse tyson parrots. The difference between chimpanzees and humans is 1% genetically. What's the last time you talked to a chimp? What would an alien species be like if it's just 1% different to humans in the same direction as we're different from chimps?
 
If we blow ourselves up in the next 800 years (which I think we could all agree could happen), it would mean we've had radio signals that travelled for a mere 1/13,000,000th the age of the Universe.

Hell, some other civilization might have been sending us messages for 10 million years and gave up 200,000 years ago concluding we were a habitable Zone planet with no life.

The Universe is too damn big. We will basically never (realistically) be able to even build a telescope large enough to tell us more than inference of what's on an exo-planet and we will never image an exo-planet.
 
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The estimates of life in the universe are wildly overblown by people who are either starry-eyed optimists or have a financial motivation to keep their bullshit pseudoscientific field of astrobiology funded.

And even if life wasn't rare, the chances of extraterrestrial life being discovered is zero.
 
cybertoaster said:
Ones reaching industrial-levels like us? maybe, there might even be some nuked planets out there where some tard pushed the button.
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I think it's very likely though - a billion apes typing on typewriters should eventually produce a Shakespeare, even if by mere happenstance.

The universe is too big and has been around for too long for us to be the only sentient lifeform to have ever existed.

I do agree that our chances of finding them, let alone meeting such a species, are practically nonexistent, doubly so if FTL is indeed impossible to achieve.
 
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Vaporize 25mg of an organic molecule our bodies endogenously produce and you'll confirm this yourself.
 
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